Please feel free to post abosolutly anything about this "New Age Religion" cuz i want to konw a lot about it

I think you're referring to the yogapilatesorganiclaptopStarbuckssoylatte way of living that's taken over America.

There is no New Age Religion. It's the shadow of a product being sold to you by Microsoft, Viacom, and reality television otherwise known as Corporate America.

Eat your dignity, chew our words. That kind of package deal.

Blah.

Cheers,

Lost

...Dignity is overrated anyway.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go sit in the Decaying Lexus position.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

I think you're referring to the yogapilatesorganiclaptopStarbuckssoylatte way of living that's taken over America.

There is no New Age Religion. It's the shadow of a product being sold to you by Microsoft, Viacom, and reality television otherwise known as Corporate America.

Eat your dignity, chew our words. That kind of package deal.

Blah.

Cheers,

Lost

Thats basically it. But i think he means the unofficial omg i can see spirits shit. Its not a religion but its the sign that science is about to take a hugeshift into the wrk of the paranormal. The New Age is almost a common vocabulary that we use. Its only a matter of time before we see it really taking off in science.

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

Thats basically it. But i think he means the unofficial omg i can see spirits shit. Its not a religion but its the sign that science is about to take a hugeshift into the wrk of the paranormal. The New Age is almost a common vocabulary that we use. Its only a matter of time before we see it really taking off in science.

Okay, yea, I get that. I guess you could say the new age religion is more of an agnostic scientology combo. Mainstream metaphysics, quantum theory happy meal. But, none of it is an actual religion.

Recently I heard that Rock and Roll has officially been declared a religion and that according to the thesis it's the exact opposite of everything Christianity stands for. I still have to look into it, though.

Cheers,

Lost

After going to church for a couple years in the 60's I developed a skeptism of Christianity especially after learning the truth about evolution. Sometime in the 70's a neighbor got my family into going to the National Spiritual Science Center every Sunday for services. They had services almost like a Christian church, but instead of a sermon, someone would do a kind of long psychic reading up front almost like a sermon. At the end of the service, some of the people would go around and do psychic readings for everyone, one at a time. One day I found Robert Monroe's book Journies Out of the Body there so I bought it. After reading it I realized that I could have out of the body experiences during the sleep paralysis experiences that I had been having already. I don't remember when my first OOBE was, but I remember a number of times during sleep paralysis I could bring the hands and forearms of my astral body out of my physical body and could see them when I opened my physical eyes. I could see through them and yet see the edges because of some difference in refractive index that the astral body had relative to the surrounding air. I have had almost a thousand OOBEs in the last thirty years and have seen numerous spirit entities while out of my body either completely or partially. One time when I was out of my body, I looked out my living room window and saw what looked like some kind of tunnel coming down from the sky toward my bedroom. It looked similar to a tornado (ie. dirty brown), but was still. After that I noticed a man walking across the sky who turned around and started looking at me. I could hardly believe my own eyes and thought maybe a dream was mixing with my OOBE. Later on, during a sleep paralysis experience I saw that same man standing in my bedroom looking at me. I thought maybe he is an angel or spirit guide (from heaven?). I saw him in the 1990's. Another strange OOBE I had was when I discovered my conciousness could be in two places at the same time. One time when I was out of my body, I was able to open the eyes of my physical body and see from both my astral body and physical body at the same time. When this happened my conciousness felt like it was in both my astral body outside of my physical body and in my physical body at the same time.



In 1978, I met my twin soul who incarnated as a female in this lifetime. I didn't realize it right away, but over time I realized there was a spiritual connection between us. One time when I stood in front of her I could sense that part of my spirit was inside of her and part of her spirit was inside of me. It felt almost like looking into a mirror. I also became aware that we had vibrational patterns and they were identical. Later, I realized that we shared the same soul or soul entity of some kind that was split into two and incarnated into two bodies, mine and her's. In 1984, I met a near twin (also female). When I realized that spiritual connection, I became scared, but later realized it was different. I couldn't sense or see myself in her, but could still sense some kind of telepathy with her. I also remember that I was with both my twin soul and the near twin before this lifetime. So I know for sure that my soul existed before I was born into this life. I vaguely remembered at one time that my twin soul was my wife in a past life.



I've read numerous books from the New Age section of the book store and have figured out my own religion or spiritual beliefs. Having taken a lot of science courses including chemistry and physics I felt I had to somehow explain spirituality using some kind of scientific philosophy even if a lot of people think its impossible.



Here's my "religion" or spiritual beliefs:



Since humans evolved from ape-like creatures there is no original sin. Adam and Eve never existed. Also, in Dannion Brinkley's book Saved by the Light the beings of light told him during one of his OOBEs that humans are the heros and heroines of the spirit world and should hold themselves in high esteem for having the courage to incarnate into the physical world. They say the reason we come here is to create with God (whatever that is). I believe the spirit world isn't necessarily a better place. It depends on the person/spirit and various circumstances. I believe in a sense, that we do not need to focus too much on trying to get to heaven or work on our karma to keep from coming back like the way many religions insist on doing. We probably decided to come here with the help of spirit guides. Maybe some people are encouraged to come here to grow spiritually. Maybe others come here to help teach them.



I tend to believe in reincarnation, because of the pre-existance of souls as was proven to me. Ian Stevenson and others have written books about children who could remember past lives. The Dali Llama could remember things from his previous life as the Dali Llama. That's how the Buddist monks could recognize him and give him his position of Dali Llama back to him again.



Its believed everyone has a twin soul. I met mine. After this experience I tend to think that the duplex soul that the twin souls come from must be split into two to incarnate into human bodies. Humans and other animals probably evolved a spirit interface to allow them to incarnate spirits because it gives them a survival advantage. Only a particular amount or type of spirit energy can incarnate into the human body, ie. one of the twin souls. The reason I think human organisms do this is to exploit the "hole in the soul" created by splitting apart the duplex soul in using this as a basis of love and the sex drive. When meeting your twin soul you become overwhelmed with an intense love which for most people is too strong for them to even stay together. They begin to panic and realize they can't handle the fear of soul entity they both share. It seems ironic, but at the human level this seems to be necessary. The reason for this unconditional love seems to be because boths halves of the soul want to reunite to form one soul again or at least just be together.



I don't believe in astrology, because I don't see how planets and stars came affect people like astrologers claim.



I question whether or not there is a real God, so I tend to be a spiritual pantheist, ie. I believe in the spirit world, but am a pantheist at the same time.



Since most of us are coming back here in the next life we should be concerned about the world we incarnate into the next time. Islam is extremely dangerous to the human race and to the karmic development of the people who return to earth. Fundamentalist Muslims want Islam to conquer the entire earth and create a world-wide thought police state and death cult that only allows certain beliefs that support the Islamic organized crime system. If you question the authorities, you can be convicted of being an apostate and put to death. This happens all the time in Islamic countries. Its important all of us oppose Islam by any means necessary and work toward its destruction. Everyone must be on the side of George Bush and the United States in the war on terrorism.





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Oh.

My.

God.

Jeb Bush- i'm glad to see an actual written post instead of a bunch of links. I'm intrigued by your ideas. I too believe in past lives and have shared similar astrol projection experiences. I used salvia to trigger mine but it was quite profound leaving me humbled. I took over someone elses body and drew a lot of attention to that person in the process. Hopefully it'll just be thought of as a seizure, lol. George bush will destroy the islam movement, but the christian movement will be destroyed in doing so.

quote:Originally posted by aTribeCalledSean:

Oh.

My.

God.

It's a miracle!

And we can perform it from our couch.

I thought new age was about

eastern ideas and philosophies

coming to the west?

Of course, it's always amusing

when christians say how bizarre

and alarming other beliefs are.

Those which cometh upon groups also come unto the groups misdirections. But know you for sure that there is much light in this, for that which is New is and is to become.

So be it with all Highest of will.

(channeled)

More be drawn to you...

The throne awaits you. Make all self to recieve of the Crown and may you sit at the right hand of your true Father.

Be that a pillar of His Kingdom, in this blissfull Nirvana that become upon you. Thought and Feeling will lead to that which surely is to become, that which is, and that which always will be.

-Those that be.

On the off chance you might appreciate a serious and helpful answer, read The Urantia Book.

Or A Course in Miracles.

Or Conversations With God.

There is no one "New Age religion" per se. In general, modern metaphysicians are either archaic revivalists (Wiccans, pagans of all stripes, wannabe redskins and so forth) or more New Agey--dabblers in channeling, crystals (there is a lot of cross-over when you get into crystal arcana, however); UFO nuts and so forth.

Oh, to adress the actual subject of the post...

New Age is fucking gay. It's one of the biggest reasons I'm a douche-bag to every white kid who makes a "Buddhism" thread here.

It's rich, bored, whities molestation and tainting of Vedic, Buddhist, Shamanic, Ancestoral and Animalistic veneration, etc.

I fucking hate it to death.

I wish the western world would just be satisfied with the religions and whatnot you guys already created. I mean; duality, indivuality, the supremecy of the human soul, form and function, etc. are great ideas. Or at least study the legit shit, and don't maim eastern thought into some McYoga, StarBuddhist, bullshit.

quote:metaphysics, quantum theory happy meal

Yummy. I'd go with that as a general explaination, and just because it sounds very good. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Not too struck on the "mainstream" statement though.

I'm not comfortable with the 'religion' label either, it brings up too much from the past, like difference and authoritarian attitudes.

I think that Understanding or Knowing would be a better way of looking at it.

I can feel it.

quote:Originally posted by XliMun(Frontalobe)~:

Yummy. I'd go with that as a general explaination, and just because it sounds very good. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Not too struck on the "mainstream" statement though.

I'm not comfortable with the 'religion' label either, it brings up too much from the past, like difference and authoritarian attitudes.

I think that Understanding or Knowing would be a better way of looking at it.

I can feel it.

Thanks, I do what I can.

*shoves another happy meal down throat*

Cheers,

Lost

Rationality and spirituality are just two ways of understanding the universe. Possibly the single biggest advantage of rationality is that it has an inbuilt mechanism for verifying truths, nothing needs to be accepted "on blind faith".

Spirituality, well you can't just dismiss it out of hand as a flawed path of knowledge, because there are so many different systems put forward over the ages. At its core though, it requires an emotional and fundamentally irrational way of finding truths. Fine, if you're a rational kind of person you can say this sounds like bullshit fantasy land, but its not entirely without merit. You would really have to study Buddhism and practise meditation for a long time before you have the right to say it's nonsense, and I suspect if most people tried this they would find some degree of truth and greater understanding about the nature of reality. The problem with spirituality is that you actually need to have experienced "true understanding" before you understand that an irrational approach to the universe can reveal true knowledge to you.

What is goddamn annoying about "New Age" spirituality is that it abuses the valid paths of spiritual understanding. It picks different things from other systems of knowledge, from physics to the "astral projection" that originates in Hinduism, and it bastardises the concepts to suit its own purposes - which are to create True Believers. If you actually read into most of the New Age concepts, and you have any previous knowledge of the ideas it borrows from, you'll quickly realise that it's designed to ]sound convincing, although it had no real substance. The uncertainty implied by quantum mechanics is twisted to support arguments that literally anything is possible and valid, and the arguments surrounding established concepts from eastern mysticism are as inventive and lunatic as the average conspiracy theory you'll find on the internet. In many ways New Age writers remind me of those conspiracy theorists - they don't know what they are talking about, the arguments presented are pathetically tenuous, and the only people who will swallow the nonsense are those who are blindly seeking answers and know even less about the concepts as the writers. But most importantly, just like conspiracy theorists, the New Age writers discredit those who have genuine thoughts in the same field.