Does any Christian here know what the teaching is on why God created man/universe in the first place?

And having created the universe, why would an omnipotent God require you to worship him and his assumed teachings and punish you if you do not?

And as for eternal damnation/salvation, the supposedly ultimate ends, what are the point of those? If all matter/energy is of God origin what is the purpose of putting part of himself into eternal torment in the form of damnation?

YEAH! And if God is all powerful, can he create a boulder so big that even HE can't lift it?

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It is yet a mystery...one of the things we will find out in the great beyond.

:^D

I like to believe it was because He wanted something to love, and for it to love Him back.

Pretty simple.

quote:Originally posted by giygusattack:

YEAH! And if God is all powerful, can he create a boulder so big that even HE can't lift it?

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There is a very logical reason why He wouldn't, couldn't, and shouldn't do what yo have said, but I won't waste my time, since it is obvious the concepts will be lost on you.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It is yet a mystery...one of the things we will find out in the great beyond.

:^D

I like to believe it was because He wanted something to love, and for it to love Him back.

Pretty simple.



tis a rare day in purgatory that digi and i agree but on this one i think she's(?) right.

Any attempt to reason a god's motives is nuts. No one can do it.

I don't agree with Digi or Jack because that puts human emotions on something greater than us.

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tis a rare day in purgatory that digi and i agree but on this one i think she's(?) right.

She, indeed.

*winks*

quote:Originally posted by malaria:

Any attempt to reason a god's motives is nuts. No one can do it.

I don't agree with Digi or Jack because that puts human emotions on something greater than us.

THE ENTIRE BIBLE IS ABOUT GOD'S LOVE !

I don't find it farfetched to believe that He created us out of a desire for love.

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Besides, I think I made it clear that this was my own personal belief, and nothing more. It may or may not be true, but since the Bible tells us that we are to do nothing but love, and that we are made in God's likeness, we can reasonably conclude that God is Love, and therefore expect that His motives are ruled by this.

how many times do i need to tell you people, I don't exist!

do you need a babel fish in your ear to help you understand?

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It is yet a mystery...one of the things we will find out in the great beyond.

:^D

I like to believe it was because He wanted something to love, and for it to love Him back.

Pretty simple.



Yes He could have wanted mutual love, but then why create a grossly flawed and limited species with which to have this relationship? Bit like a biologist having a loving relationship with a mould spore on a petri dish. At least a little unlikely don't you think?

If you want something to love do you really need a whole universe into which you place a species of apes so primitive they cant even comprehend you. Follow this up with a string of conflicting religions (virtually all of which refute each other) intent on 'saving' us from a human nature he designed.

Oh and woe betide the silly monkeys who arent smart enough to decipher his divine ramblings and pick the wrong religion/form of love. They get to spend the rest of eternity in torment(at least according Islam,Christianty and Judaism.. but WHICH ONE!?).

I think many religious people comfort themselves with this unfounded belief that God created us becuase he wants our love, rather than entertain the thought God may have created the universe because he was bored, or because it seemed like a good idea at the time and we happen to be part of the entertainment.

And as for ALL of the Bible being about love... Does a loving father test the innocent, and punish them when they fail - Abraham/Isaac (downright sadistic),Adam/Eve...

Are those who fall by the wayside brought back to God through love? - Sodom/Gomorrah.



And as for the industrial strength LSD trip that is Revelation, Yeah baby! Feel that lovin'!

Seems that God's love life is pretty perverse.



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Righteous and just punishment is found within the confines of love.

If you aren't a parent, it could then be understood why this is a concept lost on you.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Righteous and just punishment is found within the confines of love.

If you aren't a parent, it could then be understood why this is a concept lost on you.

This is the kind of religious bilge that borders on mental illness.

Would you permit the killing of a child if the offence was serious enough? Perhaps if they refused to submit to a teaching on a religious matter, would that be the righteous and just punishment you or anyone else could mete out within the confines of a loving relationship?

Using the parent-child analogy to justify murder and then say this is found within the confines of love is sick and perverted.



[This message has been edited by Aconite (edited 05-11-2005).]

Yep, God dosn't exist, so stop worrying and start enjoying your Sundays, and, your sundeas!

quote:Aconite

lol.

He was bored. P.S. Satan paid him to.