In the original scriptures that were compiled as the Bible, there are two different words that are normally translated as 'Hell' - 'Sheol' and 'Gehenna'. Anyone know much about what these names mean? Is there a difference? Are they the same as or similar to the mainstream Western ideas of Hell?

Sheol is Hell, generally, while Gehenna refers to the Lake of Fire. It actually means the valley of Hinnom, where perpetual fires were kept to burn the refuse of Jerusalem and came to be used by the Jews as an image of eternal hell and eternal punishment. Sheol is more the place of departed spirits. Even righteous spirits went there before the resurrection of Jesus.

Gehenna is also the name, of the Judaic undertaker. She gaurds the afterlife, basically. She acts as an almost Gabriel figure, but instead of going between life and death, she stays at death. She's supposed to have eyes of gold and rainbowed hair, too, if I remember correctly. She was a pretty cool character.

Cheers,

Lost

what powrtorch said is on the mark. coincidentally, read anne rice's "memnoch the devil". while it's a bit full of itself in regards to its own intelligence and uniqueness, it's still a good read if you're into catholic arcana.

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quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Gehenna is also the name, of the Judaic undertaker. She gaurds the afterlife, basically. She acts as an almost Gabriel figure, but instead of going between life and death, she stays at death. She's supposed to have eyes of gold and rainbowed hair, too, if I remember correctly. She was a pretty cool character.

Cheers,

Lost

What's you're source?

Gehenna was a perpetually burning garbage mound. A really big one for all the city of Jerusalem. That's why it's equated to lake of fire. Smelly lake of fire.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Gehenna is also the name, of the Judaic undertaker. She gaurds the afterlife, basically. She acts as an almost Gabriel figure, but instead of going between life and death, she stays at death. She's supposed to have eyes of gold and rainbowed hair, too, if I remember correctly. She was a pretty cool character.

Cheers,

Lost

Sounds hawt!



Anyway, dont go looking for either. Its one hell now. The Bible said when Jesus died "Hell hath enlarged itself"

Since the earth didnt get any bigger we have to assume the partition betwen the two places collapsed.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Gehenna is also the name, of the Judaic undertaker. She gaurds the afterlife, basically. She acts as an almost Gabriel figure, but instead of going between life and death, she stays at death. She's supposed to have eyes of gold and rainbowed hair, too, if I remember correctly. She was a pretty cool character.

Cheers,

Lost



I dont remember that from the OT. Is it one of the Jewish --i dont know the right word so i'll use "folk tales"?

Also, in the movie "The Seventh Sign", they mention a place called "the Guff" (sp?). Does anyone know the origin or any background on it? A while back i tried to google it, and all i could find was stuff about a band with that name. And i havent seen it in any books.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Gehenna is also the name, of the Judaic undertaker. She gaurds the afterlife, basically. She acts as an almost Gabriel figure, but instead of going between life and death, she stays at death. She's supposed to have eyes of gold and rainbowed hair, too, if I remember correctly. She was a pretty cool character.

Cheers,

Lost

I want to bone her.

Also, in the movie "The Seventh Sign", they mention a place called "the Guff" (sp?). Does anyone know the origin or any background on it? A while back i tried to google it, and all i could find was stuff about a band with that name. And i havent seen it in any books.

Probably the "Gulf". It sounds a lot like the Abyss to me, which would be a temporary holding place for fallen angels and demons, including the antiChrist.

quote:Originally posted by Christop:

In the original scriptures that were compiled as the Bible, there are two different words that are normally translated as 'Hell' - 'Sheol' and 'Gehenna'. Anyone know much about what these names mean? Is there a difference? Are they the same as or similar to the mainstream Western ideas of Hell?

There is no set belief in Judaism about what happens in the after life. Sheol refers to the underworld, where we wait for the Messiah to come and ressurect all the righteous to live once again on the Earth in eternal happiness and bliss (coincidentally one of the many reasons Jews don't believe Jesus was the messiah, he didn't do wha he was supposed to). We generally don't believe in hell because there is no purpose for it other than to punish people and make them suffer, and G-d would not do that, he always allows for one to recover spiritually.

quote:Originally posted by Clarphimous:

Probably the "Gulf". It sounds a lot like the Abyss to me, which would be a temporary holding place for fallen angels and demons, including the antiChrist.

I'm sure it is not "gulf", because i watched it with closed captioning.

And in the movie, it was a place where God stores the souls of people until He unites the bodies and souls at birth. Also, according to the movie, there is a finite amount of souls in the 'guff', when that is empty then the end times.... or something like that... its been quite awhile since i watched it... it has Dinty Moore..errr, i mean Demi