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crazed_hamster
2005-06-03, 13:15
When is it alright for a 'religious' person to disobey the law? Dammit, I've asked this question before, and since no one's answered I'm posting this. Doesn't matter what religion you are, but when do you feel that you're justified in breaking the law, because of your religion?

Snoopy
2005-06-03, 14:35
Religious people best better keep their religious practices inside of their private residence. Otherwise, the law will break them.

Random_Looney
2005-06-03, 17:27
Religious people are allowed to refuse to follow orders in the military if they go against their morals, but it is highly discouraged and must be announced so that someone else may complete them. It would be said that if following a law is immoral, one is obligated not to follow it.

Snoopy, I completely disagree- if all guns were to be banned, would you give up what weapons you had? Though not purely religious, that is a stupid, unjust, lame law that has complete disregard for ones property or safety.

crazed_hamster
2005-06-03, 19:13
So therefore if I personally believe that, say, paying taxes is immoral, then I wouldn't have to pay?

AngrySquirrel
2005-06-03, 19:18
quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:

So therefore if I personally believe that, say, paying taxes is immoral, then I wouldn't have to pay?

If your religion says so, sure. Just expect to get hit with the gavel.

In Christianity there's the "Give unto Caesar which is Caesar's...." quote though.

Didn't stop the American revolution from rebelling against undue taxation without representation however. But Washington was a Mason.

[This message has been edited by AngrySquirrel (edited 06-03-2005).]

Cpt.Winters
2005-06-05, 03:23
Break the law whenever you want, just prepare to pay the consequences... or just dont get cought.

Adorkable
2005-06-05, 03:45
When you're religion's writings say it's ok.

asthesunsets
2005-06-05, 23:20
Well, you can steal bread to feed your family, but not butter. I think you can kill someone, but you have to eat him too, which makes sense because it'd be a waste otherwise.

xXPhoenixFireXx
2005-06-06, 00:49
It's not only correct to break the law, but actually required of you if you religion says that not breaking the law is immoral. You will still get hit by the legal system if you do break the law, and you must accept the consequences. It's a sacrifice for your religion.

titan88
2005-06-06, 02:03
Yes. Who defines "the law" though, a bunch of old men? Fuck the law/system.

It is
2005-06-06, 02:14
quote:Originally posted by titan88:

Yes. Who defines "the law" though, a bunch of old men? Fuck the law/system.

Hear hear!



A just man defies an unjust law.

darkmatter89
2005-06-06, 03:21
quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:

When is it alright for a 'religious' person to disobey the law? Dammit, I've asked this question before, and since no one's answered I'm posting this. Doesn't matter what religion you are, but when do you feel that you're justified in breaking the law, because of your religion?

"Pay back Caeser's things to Caeser, but God's things to God."

Which means, obey man's laws unless they conflict with God's laws, which trump all.

spaceMAN
2005-06-06, 04:30
kill someone and eat them....lmao...wtf religion are you ?!

snoopy, this wouldn't happen to be in soviet russia by any chance ?

crazed hamster if you really believe that paying taxes is immoral then you would stop paying taxes, be arrested, go to court, found guilty because there is no religion that disallows taxes, die.

titan88 and itis, hell yea.

crazed_hamster
2005-06-06, 13:13
quote:Originally posted by spaceMAN:

kill someone and eat them....lmao...wtf religion are you ?!

snoopy, this wouldn't happen to be in soviet russia by any chance ?

crazed hamster if you really believe that paying taxes is immoral then you would stop paying taxes, be arrested, go to court, found guilty because there is no religion that disallows taxes, die.

titan88 and itis, hell yea.

My religion is in my head, and my religion says, "Don't pay your fucking taxes", therefore in order to have freedom of religion, the IRS would have to go scurrying back into their litle holes and leave me alone, no?

vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG
2005-06-06, 13:15
convert to a religion that disagrees with every law in existance if you want.

Just be prepared to get arrested http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

unfortunately politicians have more power than religious leaders over matters like this.

Jubosh
2005-06-06, 21:42
The things about laws and god is that morals and the holly testiments and that shit was made by god. laws patitions and the shit that restricts us as the being we are are made by man. if you think about whos higher on the chain man or God?

Snoopy
2005-06-07, 12:30
quote:Originally posted by spaceMAN:

snoopy, this wouldn't happen to be in soviet russia by any chance ?

Shut up, dickhead.

Random_Looney
2005-06-07, 17:07
quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:

So therefore if I personally believe that, say, paying taxes is immoral, then I wouldn't have to pay?

Emerson and Thoreau didn't pay taxes... look what happened to them. It is morally acceptable, just not legally.

xbombae
2005-06-07, 21:32
quote:Originally posted by Jubosh:

patitions



[This message has been edited by xbombae (edited 06-07-2005).]

ArmsMerchant
2005-06-08, 21:29
Religion and law are two different issues. Regardless of one's religion, it can be argued that it is not only the right, but the duty, of a good citizen to disobey any unjust law.

leumas
2005-06-10, 16:08
quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:

Religious people best better keep their religious practices inside of their private residence. Otherwise, the law will break them.



Much as I refuse to believe this, I find myself agreeing in principles to what you state.