Ever since I was 3 years old, I have always thought about this topic. Maybe I'm just nuts, or maybe I have come up with a very intriguing idea.

If you've ever seen the movie "Groundhog Day" you'll understand my point better. If you haven't, the movie is about a guy who keeps re-living the same day over, and over, and over again. Every time Groundhog day ends, he goes to sleep. However, when he wakes up, it's still Groundhog day... again. He has all the knowledge of what he did the day before, and everything else happens exactly as he remembers it.

So he goes and does whatever the hell he wants. It eventually gets so bad that he tries to kill himself in various ways to make it stop, only to wake up in his bed again.

What if this sort of thing was happening to you, right now. The only difference is that rather than dealing with a single day, we're dealing with your entire life.

What if, during the exact instant you die, the very next instant you are born again, and your life just starts over.

Example:

You die at 6:49 PM on Saturday May 5th 2012,

only to be born again at 3:53 AM on Thursday November 22nd 1976.

3:53 AM on Thursday November 22 1976 was the time you were originally born.

You keep repeating your life over, and over, and over again, only for some reason you don't know it. It's in essence an infinte loop.

You do the exact same things, and make the exact same mistakes, forever.

You try your best to remember what you did "before" so you can try not to make the same mistakes again, but for some reason the instant you die you are unable to retain that knowledge and your brain is just reset to zero.

This is why babies know absolutely nothing when they are born, their brain has been reset to zero.

How could you know anything? It's like your brain is a video tape and you're rewinding it backwards 30 years.

If this was happening to you, how would you force yourself to retain some sort of knowledge?

When you die, and are born again, how would you transfer this knowledge from your "dead" self into your "newborn" self.

Even if it's just one simple idea, such as "blonde girls = bad"

So, as a result of that idea that was implanted in your head as a newborn, you'd never marry anyone that's a blonde. This would prevent you from marrying a specific blonde girl that ruined your life "before" and you could in essence completely change your life around.

I'll write up some more on this topic if I get some decent responses.

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Well I found it actually rather intresting to be honest. However I am kind of confused about the "rebirth" part. How would we be reborn back in a year that has long since passed? Are you saying that in our mind it is that time? Please explain, but other than that, very nice.

no,he is saying that existence himself is a continuing loop and when you die your soul is sent back to when you were born. thats what i got out of it. more ppl need to post on this its a very very good theory.

quote:Originally posted by Kannabis Korbano:

no,he is saying that existence himself is a continuing loop and when you die your soul is sent back to when you were born.

Yes, that's exactly what I ment. You never really "cease to exist" when you die, you simply start your life over again.

Perhaps you can remember certain things, you just can't have them as actual memories. Haven't you ever had a certain unexplainable feeling about nothing? Perhaps its a memory from your soul about a certain "fork" in your life. Sorry if this doesnt make sense, i didn't quite know how to word it.

maybe this is the origin of deja voo? holy shit. does that make sense to you?

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quote:Originally posted by 3v1L |=|4[]D[]DY F4C3:

Perhaps you can remember certain things, you just can't have them as actual memories. Haven't you ever had a certain unexplainable feeling about nothing? Perhaps its a memory from your soul about a certain "fork" in your life. Sorry if this doesnt make sense, i didn't quite know how to word it.

I've had that happen many times before.

I dont understand why I think about certain things... I have certain thoughts/ideas that only make sense to me, and its very difficult to write them out so other people can understand them.

I remember distinctly thinking when I was 3 that there was something that would happen to me that I was supposed to change, but for some reason I just couldn't remember what it was.

When it happened, I didnt know what to do (because I didn't know what would happen later), and I "failed" to change it.

Now I'm fucked. Meh.

quote:Originally posted by Kannabis Korbano:

maybe this is the origin of deja voo? holy shit. does that make sense to you?



Yeah, this theory would explain the deja voo phenomenon.

It would also explain how "psychic" people know certain things; they know these things because they've already done them/experienced them before.

wow i never thought about that. not neccarily jamaican cleo bitch type psychics tho. im getting this put in the digest.

what else would this theory explain?how does,if at all,"god" fit into this?

I think it is a good theory on the "afterlife" but i got one question.

are all the people you meet and know part of your imagination or what?

vflow,what in the fuck. i dont think thats what you meant to said,or maybe you are THAT retarded. please explain more.

What about still borns, AAAHHH beat that.

And also, if two peple born on the same day and one of them died at ninety and the other thirty, theyt would not be 'reborn' on the same day again because on of them would still be in there first life.

And also how would you explain the way time goes forward and how we are not in the stone age.

I think the swecond one made more sense.

This just goes to show that people will try to believe in ANYTHING but God.

Yes, anything but THAT !

quote:Originally posted by Cash Stealer:

If this was happening to you, how would you force yourself to retain some sort of knowledge?

When you die, and are born again, how would you transfer this knowledge from your "dead" self into your "newborn" self.





Sounds like tibetan buddhism, you should check out their book of the dead, supposedly meant to assist you to retain some knowledge allowing a more advantageous rebirth.

quote:Originally posted by midgetbasketball:

What about still borns, AAAHHH beat that.

And also, if two peple born on the same day and one of them died at ninety and the other thirty, theyt would not be 'reborn' on the same day again because on of them would still be in there first life.

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shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. your right. maybe still borns were all pulling a ghost in the machine. but if not and this theory is right,aborted babies and stillborns are f-u-c-k fucked.

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And also how would you explain the way time goes forward and how we are not in the stone age.



Hmmm, I have thought of a good response to that, but it will be very difficult to explain.

Say you have a man who dies in 2020. This man has had 2 kids, one dies in 2060, the other dies in 2070. Those 2 people have two kids of their own each, one dies in 2100, one dies in 2110, one dies in 2120, one dies in 2130... and each one of those 4 people have 2 kids, so the timeline continues.

Every one of these new kids is a new life, and a new extention of time.

This process would continue in an infinite loop forever.

Each one of those people is forced to "re-live" their entire lives over, and over, and over again, yet it doesn't affect "time" because during every "life" they have kids and the timeline continues.

It would suck to be an aborted baby, or dying when you're like 2 years old. No idea how to explain that one, there's really no solution to it according to this theory... unless you somehow "change" it somewhere along the line and prevent yourself from dying.

It'd be nice that if you really DIDN'T want to re-live your life then you wouldn't have to, and maybe you'd just cease to exist or get reincarnated or something.

I seem to find that when people are lying on their death bed, they always think about what they've done with their life. They start thinking about all the things they wish they could have changed and done over again, if only they had a second chance.

It could be that it is a choice you make: do I want to re-live everything I've done and *try* to make it better, or do I want to just move on?

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So you're saying that not reality, but perception of life is just an infinite loop, and then the world around continues to go on and change with time unaffected by ourselves.

That does sound like a cool theory but it just doesn't add up. We can't last forever living life over and over again.

At some point all of human life will be extinct what will happen to us then?

You can't just say we will not be aware and just stay in the same infinite loop of time forever because there has to be something there to allow us to do that. We can't be our own universal God.

It would make sense though if you are your own god. When you live you only know your living that life nothing more nothing less. When you die you don't know you're dead. So basically you're just constantly living forever, in this infinite state of mind.

Otherwise no one would ever exist, and reality would not be possible. Unless of course there was an afterlife, but then you'd have to come up with a theory for that.

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First time posting, but I thought this was an interesting topic. Not sure whether I buy it, but it sorta reminds me of a scenario I've often thought about; which, in itself is imaginary, but fun to think about.

Say you were abducted by aliens, the whole works, etc. Upon releasing you back to your normal life, they clear all memory of it ever happening. In thinking this could've happened to yourself during your life, you want to believe so bad that although they could've erased your mind, you would still think you could somehow remember you passing through that part of your life. In essence, it might as well never happened. The very thoughts of what would pass through your eyes as you were being abducted would seemnigly not have even happened as they were taking place, because thereafter, well, it would've seemed as though it hadn't. It's sorta hard to explain the way I want in words, but I think you get the idea.

This also can be a reason why some people see a light at the end of a tunnel when they die. If life is continous, the tunnel would be your mothers womb and the light would be outside of it at just the exact time of your birth. But if you wanted to count life as the 9 months your being created then what I said doesn't really count.

The theory does also work with extinction. When

humans first emerged our concept of time was created, when all the humans die our concept of time will die to. So say your born as an only child in the last human family on earth - when you die, humans will become extinct. Then you will be born again, die, and the human race once again will become extinct and so on and so on.

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I think you are rather close except for you won't come back the same everytime. If the universe is infinitely old, through mathematical probability you may end up getting the same life. Most likely you'll just come back where you left off, or it might be billions of years before you return.

It's just, maybe not perfected.

Look, you only realize you're alive now, and you'll never realize you're dead when you actually die.

This means either you live in this world forever, or you consciously pass on to the next. That's not possible.

Meaning this is the only world you'll ever know, or realize. Since time is infinite to us, it will last forever. Or at least as long as our source of life.

So who besides me has noticed the how similar this theroy is to karma (what goes around, comes around) Coincidence?

But a note on somebody's comment on how can you relive something that's already past.

I think it's point of view or something like that. Just 1 big point of view.

The past is real, and so is the future. Time is just reality based on perception so the present is really only the illusion of reality.

^ That response hurt my brain, but thats sort of true in a way.

quote:Originally posted by redzed:



Sounds like tibetan buddhism, you should check out their book of the dead, supposedly meant to assist you to retain some knowledge allowing a more advantageous rebirth.



Any Buddhism. In fact more than that. Jainism and Hinduism too. Its called Samsara.