Gen. Patton
2005-06-27, 13:40
Young preacher: "So recaping what we learned today:
1. Their is light/day and dark/night.
2. Everything to do with god is in the light, all forms of sin are dark.
3. You can do good and live in the light without being aware of christanity, but if your are aware of it and do not accept it you are in the dark. If you do not know and still do good, then you are living in the light without knowledge of it
4. When you accept god, the holy spirit enters your heart.
5. Sin forces the holy spirit out of your heart.
6. By accepting the holy spirit and living in the light we achieve perfection through the holy spirit."
Me'*Question* If no man is without sin, and we achieve the christian version of perfection through the holy spirit, and sinning forces the holy spirit out, then how do we achieve salvation?'
Young preacher: Uh, um, well, [5 second pause], could you uh, repeat the uh, question..
Reverand: Well thats a good question, you see each sin forces the spirit out of your heart, and replaces it with those sins. I asked that question about a year ago myself."
Young preacher: Ya, so it's like your sins slowly force the spirit out...
Reverand: Redemption is how we keep the spirit in our hearts.
Young preacher: Ya, alright any more questions?
Me: Yes I have another, if sin forces the spirit out of our hearts, then wouldn't it be possible for us to be banished from heaven by sinning in heaven? Or is it an anything goes policy? After all ,when we go we are living with god in heaven,
Reverand: Well, sin is an earthly thing. When god was talking to noah, god told noah that he couldn't come down and be seen himself because their was sin in the world. But sin dies when you die and are judged. But the answer to your question is, no one knows. Their is no way of knowing. No one, we can't see the other side to find out.
Young preacher: Alright, any prayer requests?
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1. Their is light/day and dark/night.
2. Everything to do with god is in the light, all forms of sin are dark.
3. You can do good and live in the light without being aware of christanity, but if your are aware of it and do not accept it you are in the dark. If you do not know and still do good, then you are living in the light without knowledge of it
4. When you accept god, the holy spirit enters your heart.
5. Sin forces the holy spirit out of your heart.
6. By accepting the holy spirit and living in the light we achieve perfection through the holy spirit."
Me'*Question* If no man is without sin, and we achieve the christian version of perfection through the holy spirit, and sinning forces the holy spirit out, then how do we achieve salvation?'
Young preacher: Uh, um, well, [5 second pause], could you uh, repeat the uh, question..
Reverand: Well thats a good question, you see each sin forces the spirit out of your heart, and replaces it with those sins. I asked that question about a year ago myself."
Young preacher: Ya, so it's like your sins slowly force the spirit out...
Reverand: Redemption is how we keep the spirit in our hearts.
Young preacher: Ya, alright any more questions?
Me: Yes I have another, if sin forces the spirit out of our hearts, then wouldn't it be possible for us to be banished from heaven by sinning in heaven? Or is it an anything goes policy? After all ,when we go we are living with god in heaven,
Reverand: Well, sin is an earthly thing. When god was talking to noah, god told noah that he couldn't come down and be seen himself because their was sin in the world. But sin dies when you die and are judged. But the answer to your question is, no one knows. Their is no way of knowing. No one, we can't see the other side to find out.
Young preacher: Alright, any prayer requests?
[This message has been edited by Gen. Patton (edited 06-27-2005).]