I don't know much about the Bible and Christianity, so if any of this is proven wrong, let me know.

Could it be possible that both Heaven and Hell are on Earth? Say you were bad in your life, so as Hell, you were sent to Earth as a person who has a disability or a person who is constantly made fun of. Or say you never sinned, and then you would get sent to Earth and would live a very good life.

The reason why I am starting to believe this is because I can't understand how a god could choose which people are retarded, obese, poor, etc. If a god just randomly chose whose life was horrible and whose life was great, I think it is safe to say the god is not an all-loving creature; he is a sadist.

I guess this could explain why luck exists as well. A person sent to Hell would be naturally unlucky. Of course all luck could be explained as coincedence, but some people believe in luck.

The only thing wrong with this idea is that I don't know what would happen after you die in heaven/hell. Would the process start over again? I have no idea.

Any sites I should look at/comments?

quote:Originally posted by Irregular:

[B]The reason why I am starting to believe this is because I can't understand how a god could choose which people are retarded, obese, poor, etc. If a god just randomly chose whose life was horrible and whose life was great, I think it is safe to say the god is not an all-loving creature; he is a sadist. [B]

God doesn't choose which people are disadvantaged. Since adam and eve sinned, before they had kids, all humans ended up imperfect, and we fucked ourselfs up.



Example: God doesn't choose what kids are fat, their parents genes do, which are imperfect.

quote:Originally posted by john_deer:

God doesn't choose which people are disadvantaged. Since adam and eve sinned, before they had kids, all humans ended up imperfect, and we fucked ourselfs up.



Example: God doesn't choose what kids are fat, their parents genes do, which are imperfect.



Yes, but where does the person inside come from? Children aren't emotionally duplicates of their parents. To some obese people, they wouldn't care if they were made fun of. Others would. A god could choose who does and doesn't.

quote:Originally posted by Irregular:

I don't know much about the Bible and Christianity, so if any of this is proven wrong, let me know.

Could it be possible that both Heaven and Hell are on Earth? Say you were bad in your life, so as Hell, you were sent to Earth as a person who has a disability or a person who is constantly made fun of. Or say you never sinned, and then you would get sent to Earth and would live a very good life.

The reason why I am starting to believe this is because I can't understand how a god could choose which people are retarded, obese, poor, etc. If a god just randomly chose whose life was horrible and whose life was great, I think it is safe to say the god is not an all-loving creature; he is a sadist.

I guess this could explain why luck exists as well. A person sent to Hell would be naturally unlucky. Of course all luck could be explained as coincedence, but some people believe in luck.

The only thing wrong with this idea is that I don't know what would happen after you die in heaven/hell. Would the process start over again? I have no idea.

Any sites I should look at/comments?



If you really believe that God sends people to "hell", where they are punished for all eternity, then God must be a sadist.

There is no hell.

There is no punishment.

There is only reward.

If you are good, God allows you to live with him for all eternity. If you are bad, you're stuck in a rat hole like this dump for all eternity.

God is not about punishment, God is about love.

I really find it difficult to reason out why people dont understand that.

God doesn't pick people to be happy and others to be cursed. At least generally.

I mean, I'm born in America, not because God blessed me. I couldn't have been born anywhere else. My parents were already here and they had a kid, and I'm it. My mom could've smoked crack and I could be retarded. That would've had nothing to do with God.

I believe in God, but I don't believe in fate or destiny really. I do think there is divine intervention some, but not every bad thing or good thing is Gods fault.

Unfortunately, your idea of heaven and hell being on earth don't really fit into Christian idealology. What if a person is born extremely rich, with good health and a perfect life, but that person creates problems and hurts other people? He would be reborn inferior when he dies, right? But Christians say if you are a good person you will exist forever in heaven.

quote:Originally posted by HomerJay603:



If you really believe that God sends people to "hell", where they are punished for all eternity, then God must be a sadist.

There is no hell.

There is no punishment.

There is only reward.

If you are good, God allows you to live with him for all eternity. If you are bad, you're stuck in a rat hole like this dump for all eternity.

God is not about punishment, God is about love.

I really find it difficult to reason out why people dont understand that.

I think I like mOrmonism somewhat, especially if you can be married to a whole lotta chicks. that would rock. but I like the above. is that all mormons, or just you?

We choose.

The rules to the game are in place so that we might learn through them.

I think God does no wrong to anyone, that which is not of God. For God is like the Yin Yang, and has not good, nor bad, but just 'is' that which He is.

The rules were created by, and are of God. But our sense of this duality is our sense of it when we are places other than 'The Kingdom of Heaven', for if we realize ourselves to be as God, as made in the image of God, effectively a copy of God, then as God, we see no Evil or Good, we just see God at work, we just see the Word in the midsts of us, so we see then that which is not of the Word and so we are saved.

Then so we are saved from our knowledge of good and evil without wisdom, which took us away from the Tree of Life in the presence of God. Because now we know the serpent and its ways, and as Sons of God, we have control over the serpent.

We raised the serpent up the straight path, up the staff.

It's all there, it's everywhere. We are not far from the Kingdom of God.

isn't strange how suddenly lots of people who have never posted here before (or haven't posted here in a while) have suddenly found a new interest in religion...?

The interest of Truth is abundant, expecially in this current age of changes.

People are waking up, even those that may not be called religious or righteous in the eyes of men.

For the secomd coming of Christ is already upon us.

The Christ is not the man Jesus, Christ is what we can also become as did Jesus. And as will many more in these times.