hear me out a sec. Ive got a theory that deals with evolution. Evolution comes up often in religious debates. I once thought time travel was crap because I thought to myself "we'd know, people from the future couldnt help but be seen wether or not they didnt want to interfere too much with there own past to only disrupt there future" but what if these so called "grey aliens" were actually are next evolutionary plateua. just studing there own origins with the help of time machines. We are there primitive counterpart.

This is a cro magnon skull, Our primitive ancestor. http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/res/169.jpg

Big nose

tiny eye sockets

larger jaw structure

sloped behind head

Now this is a human skull so you can see the way the evolution occurs http://tinyurl.com/732dp

the nose is now smaller

the eye sockets are bigger than magnon

jaw has slenderized

slope has risen on head

Now here is an artists interp of an alien skull. If you think about it. It is taking on the same patter of evo as the last two http://tinyurl.com/7la75

the nose is Still becoming smaller

eyes bigger again

jaw has become smaller

the skull is risen completley assumabley

I think I might be on to something. What do you guys think?

Anthropomorphism, that artist gave it human-like attributes because they're a human. Why do you think so many aliens are depicted as looking so similar to us, though there's nothing to suggest they would have evolved the same adaptations?

quote:Originally posted by Paradise Lost:

Anthropomorphism, that artist gave it human-like attributes because they're a human. Why do you think so many aliens are depicted as looking so similar to us, though there's nothing to suggest they would have evolved the same adaptations?

true. But this is the traditional look of an alien (assuming you beleive in one).This might become A who does or doesnt beleive in aliens argument. I do though, so meh. I do understand what your saying though and you are right

Have you seen photos of human fetus's in various stages of development. I think they rather look like these so-called aliens.

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quote:Originally posted by Magnus_Ungermax:

true. But this is the traditional look of an alien (assuming you beleive in one).This might become A who does or doesnt beleive in aliens argument. I do though, so meh. I do understand what your saying though and you are right

traditional look of an alien?

What the fuck, bearing in mind we havn't found any sort of life on any other planet in the universe yet.

There is absolutely no reason why they would look human.

The Human race is relatively new, only a few million years old, depending on when you class "human" as. Anyway, human race could be the only lifeform in the galaxy that is "intelligent", the amount of planets that are just dirty rocks and gas giants is astronomical.

You sound like a moron who doesn't care about evidence, so long as it makes him feel better about himself/the world. "I once thought time travel was crap". Says it all, right there. Stop misinterpreting science to other impressionable morons.

Paradise Lost is right, the only reason we imagine aliens to look as they do is because we have to relate things to our own species.

There are millions of planets with no liveable atmosphere, or no liveable climate, thousands of factors need to be at the right level to sustain life, and even so, intelligence could have just been a fluke due to the setup of the ecosystem that would be extremely hard to recreate.

In short, we don't know of any aliens, there probably are somewhere in the universe but we suck at space travel, so we won't reach them for thousands of years depending on government drive for space travel.

time travel is possible in theory, but we ABSOLUTELY do not have the technology, there arent't "mad scientists" who can just build them, you'd need thousands of hours of research, plus some way to break the light barrier without disolving into dust, plus there's thousands of conundrums whether shit like you could travel back to the point before you went back in time. There are thousands of contradictions like that so it probably isn't possible, never mind the physical impossiblilities.

Just like to get this sorted once and for all.

How does evolution work? Its not magic you douchebags, its not god.

It works, simply, because lifeforms with certain genetic advantage's will live longer, and therefore have more chance of passing on they're genes, than ones that don't.

Simple example, a giraffe was probably decended from some basic land mamal, but because all the leaves and shit at the bottom of the tree were eaten, animals with longer necks got more food, therefore survived more, and had more surviving decendants, this happening over a million years mean that the genetic structure of giraffes incorporates this long neckedness.

Here's where you need to be intelligent and not just some douche spouting what he heard off the internet.

Humans have evolved to the point where evolution doesnt happen any more.

think about it for one fucking second, if you believe in the theory of evolution, then you have to accept this and can't just cop out with some bullshit explanation.

Humans with genetic disadvantages, stupidity, genetic illnesses/defects (such as weak heart muscles, multiple sclerosis etc), even unatheltic or even minor defects, these traits do not cause us to die and not have children. In fact stupid/unhealthy people tend to be poor, and poor people have MORE kids, so if anything we'd devolve, not evolve, although the rates aren't that bad so that won't happen. In short, we're not going to change much, except possible all the races might combine into one race through 1000s of years of the sexxor. Although nationalism, blind patriotism, racism, and some bizarre anti immigration stance means that more people will probably "stay to their own kind".

Final summary. You're not onto anything. Go put your brain power into something worthwhile.

quote:Originally posted by -Mephisto-:

traditional look of an alien?



Humans have evolved to the point where evolution doesnt happen any more.





THEORY. You fucking prick, Im not claiming this as fact. Its just a simple theory I thought up, Im not claiming to be a genius (In spurious I am though) first off what was all the shit about other planets? You obviousley missed my point. Second how do you know That ^. your argument shows less to back it up than mine does. Dont fucking insult me its just an Idea

He's saying it's a dumb idea, dumbass.

You've no proof aliens, if extant, will look anything remotely like humans. You've no proof they won't, either, but the odds aren't in your favor.

Your theory is based on subjective interpretation.



And what the fuck does this have to do with religion?

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quote:Originally posted by King_Cotton:

He's saying it's a dumb idea, dumbass.

You've no proof aliens, if extant, will look anything remotely like humans. You've no proof they won't, either, but the odds aren't in your favor.

Your theory is based on subjective interpretation.



And what the fuck does this have to do with religion?



Well I did ask what you guys thought so oh well. For the religion forum you guys sure are a bunch of assholes though.

fuck this

laters

So you're saying aliens are actually humans from the future? If they're just humans then they're humans and not aliens.

So if they;re from earth then your theory has nothing to do with other planets?

They must be pretty far into the future or humans suddenly evolve mad fast.

no, time travelers can only observe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4097258.stm

Paranoid Delusions.

I've heard the theory that we are evolving closer and closer to that of Greys.

The greys come actually from the fourth planet of the zeta reticuli solar system and theres actually 2 types the ebe1's and the ebe2's and they both come from the same system i think. They came to our planet because there planet ran out of resources or something and the greys were in some kind of radioactive accident that somehow fucked up there digestive systems so the only way they can survive is by mutilating humans and animals, draining there blood. Then what they do is take a dip in the blood and let there bodies absorb the nutrient neccesary for them to survive from the blood. They also have technology that can cut through cells. Thats something humans cannot do yet.

So the government pretty much sold us to the greys so they can use us if the greys explain some there technology and how it works. I have a whole document about this and what i just wrote pretty much sums it up.

wow man how do you know that

This thread provides no evidence.

quote:Originally posted by Haddock:

This thread provides no evidence.

Neither does your shit reply. The ONLY person here to provide evidence of his argument was the topic starter. He was being cool until a couple of jackasses scared him away with shit reasoning to make magnus look stupid. You can tell he thought of it himself But he was the first with that theory and he was naturally ridiculed by two bozos who think theyre smart shit. I Think he IS on to something. The fact that aliens only OBSERVE (time travelers) and if you shits knew anything about evolution you would see how much sense it makes

Although some theories seem a bit more logical then others, it is not fair to completely deny them if you have no evidence yourself.

Why does your theory have anymore merit then anyone elses. The whole point of the topic was someone stating their beliefs,why would you automatically call him an idiot and such.

quote:Originally posted by qazwsx:

no, time travelers can only observe

h ttp://news .bbc.co.uk /2/hi/science/nature/4097258.stm (http: //news.bbc .co.uk/2/h i/science/ nature/409 7258.stm)

The examples don't make any sense. You couldn't "just miss your dad" or "change your mind" and escape consequences in the future because simply being anywhere or doing anything, simply EXISTING would change the future in some way. The only way the described model makes any sense is if the traveler is in some type of absolutely undetecable and intangible form and is restricted from any physical interaction with anything, and even then this idea raises many more questions than it answers.

Yes very religiony.

Ignore title, delete.

quote:Originally posted by midgetbasketball:

Yes very religiony.

Ignore title, delete.

your a fucking moron, You just bumped the thread even though it's dying. Fucking people

All of the people jumping on him totally missed the point. Mephisto's right that aliens probably wouldn't look anything like us, but Magnus never claimed that. He wasn't claiming that aliens would look like us, but that what we think are aliens are really future humans.

It's a neat theory, but sounds more sci-fi than anything else.