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mattbowilly
2005-08-18, 08:07
The 700 club has a segment called “bring it on” where viewers call in / write in with questions for the bible people to answer. Anyways, I came across their archive when doing a good search and found this…

Q: My high school has all these different programs that support homosexuals. I recently found out that one of my close friends was a homosexual, so I attended some events with him just to show him he’s still my friend. Is this going too far? How do I show him he’s still my friend without making him think I approve of his lifestyle?



A: If you go to those homosexual events, then you are approving of his lifestyle and thinking it’s okay. The Bible says, “Have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” We as Christians always want to be nice to people, “Well, I don’t offend him. It might hurt my witness,” and all this stuff. Well, I’m sorry. The Bible says, “Have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” If you go to these places, the next thing you know, you will be enticed into their lifestyle instead of him being enticed to yours. I would strongly advise against it. If you have to go get another friend or other friends, do so. It’s a pity. I would certainly pray for him, but I just don’t think I’d go into that game.

Anyways, I was sorta appalled ht tp://www.c bn.com/700club/features/BringItOn/issues-index.asp (http: //www.cbn. com/700clu b/features /BringItOn /issues-in dex.asp) ....theres a link if you want to read some more of the babble those psychos preach.



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AnAsTaSiO
2005-08-18, 08:28
I have said many times that relgion in its purest form is great but shit like that pisses me off.

Religon should never interfere in your personal decision making it should only serve as a means to console and to help in a time of need.

Do not abandon your friend, simply because a 2000 year old book filled with contradictions and fake stories tells you that it is bad.

xoctopusx
2005-08-18, 08:32
homosexualality is wrong according to the Bible.

Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."







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inquisitor_11
2005-08-18, 08:56
quote:Originally posted by xoctopusx:

homosexualality is wrong according to the Bible.

Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."





Teeheehee.

I hope you dont like your shellfish either...

http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

xoctopusx
2005-08-18, 10:33
I'm allergic to shellfish!

I do like fish though...fried whiting...baked.

The_Rabbi
2005-08-18, 11:14
If you're a religious person, then you should dislike homosexuality.

I personally don't give a fuck about homosexuals, but I can certainly understand why a Christian would dislike their way of life and certainly support their right to think that way.

mattbowilly
2005-08-18, 11:43
has anyone seen the clip where this same guy prays for supream court judges to die?

Beta69
2005-08-18, 16:29
The 700 club is scientology for christians. Frigin buy your way into heaven bullshit. Of course they don't want you doing anything that could see your money going to someone that isn't them.

I never knew the gay lifestyle was so interesting that just visiting things with your friend will turn you gay.

I wonder how many of the 700 club support lesbianism by buying lesbian porn.

ArgonPlasma2000
2005-08-18, 18:57
Personally i dont care for fags either way. Sure the religious side of me says its an abomination, but im not going to go activist because of it. Just fucking tell them that because of your religion that you think its wrong. No big deal. Doesnt mean you cant maintain friendship or anything.

Ohh, and Pat Robertson is going to call holy damnation on your soul. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)

Encrypted Soldier
2005-08-22, 22:49
quote:Here's a little research I've done:

Q. What explicitly does the Bible teach about homosexuality?

This question I consider to be basic because, if we accept God's Word on the subject of homosexuality, we benefit from His adequate answer to this problem. I am concerned only with the Christian or biblical view of homosexuality. The Bible has much to say about sex sins in general.

First, there is adultery. Adultery in the natural sense is sexual intercourse of a married person with someone other than his or her own spouse. It is condemned in both the Old and New Testaments (Exodus 20:14; I Cor. 6:9, 10). Christ forbids dwelling upon the thoughts, the free play of one's imagination that leads to adultery (Matthew 5:28).

Second, there is fornication, the illicit sex acts of unmarried persons which is likewise forbidden (I Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; Ephesians 5:3).

Then there is homosexuality which likewise is condemned in Scripture. The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares that homosexuality "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9; 10). Now Paul does not single out the homosexual as a special offender. He includes fornicators, idolators, adulterers, thieves, covetous persons, drunkards, revilers and extortioners. And then he adds the comment that some of the Christians at Corinth had been delivered from these very practices: "And such were some of you: But ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the spirit of our God" (I Corinthians 6:11). All of the sins mentioned in this passage are condemned by God, but just as there was hope in Christ for the Corinthians, so is there hope for all of us.

Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. He said to His people Israel, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13). In these passages homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin, a sexual perversion. The Christian can neither alter God's viewpoint nor depart from it.

In the Bible sodomy is a synonym for homosexuality. God spoke plainly on the matter when He said, "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel" (Deuteronomy 23:17). The whore and the sodomite are in the same category. A sodomite was not an inhabitant of Sodom nor a descendant of an inhabitant of Sodom, but a man who had given himself to homosexuality, the perverted and unnatural vice for which Sodom was known. Let us look at the passages in question:

But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house around, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (Genesis 19:4-8)

The Hebrew word for "know" in verse 5 is ya**65533;da`, a sexual term. It is used frequently to denote sexual intercourse (Genesis 4:1, 17, 25; Matthew 1:24, 25). The message in the context of Genesis 19 is clear. Lot pled with the men to "do not so wickedly." Homosexuality is wickedness and must be recognized as such else there is no hope for the homosexual who is asking for help to be extricated from his perverted way of life.

Source: .:Link:. (http://www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=1302)



EDIT: Since when has going to homosexual group meetings turned you gay? THAT really is dumb.

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Atomical
2005-08-22, 23:03
Proof that Pat is going to hell:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/10/09/robertson.state/

Rust
2005-08-23, 00:07
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

If you're a religious person, then you should dislike homosexuality.

I personally don't give a fuck about homosexuals, but I can certainly understand why a Christian would dislike their way of life and certainly support their right to think that way.

Yes. Because homosexuality is inherently against religion.

What would we do without these wonderful nuggets of wisdom, huh Kikey? What would we do?

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Osiris89
2005-08-23, 17:34
quote:Originally posted by Rust:

Yes. Because homosexuality is inherently against religion.

What would we do without these wonderful nuggets of wisdom, huh Kikey? What would we do?



What is so incorrect about homosexuality? It gives two people of the same sex the ability to love themselves to the fullest (and get reduced taxes). I don't see it being wrong.

Beta69
2005-08-23, 17:42
A 2000 year old book tells us so, and we should never turn down and excuse to hate people.

http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Rust
2005-08-23, 19:42
quote:Originally posted by Osiris89:

What is so incorrect about homosexuality? It gives two people of the same sex the ability to love themselves to the fullest (and get reduced taxes). I don't see it being wrong.



I was being sarcastic. I do not agree with what he said at all.

Uncus
2005-11-09, 21:01
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

If you're a religious person, then you should dislike homosexuality.

I personally don't give a fuck about homosexuals, but I can certainly understand why a Christian would dislike their way of life and certainly support their right to think that way.

Absolutely. You should have a right to dislike whatever you want. What someone likes or dislikes is his/her own business.

Uncus
2005-11-09, 21:04
quote:Originally posted by Beta69:

A 2000 year old book tells us so, and we should never turn down and excuse to hate people.

http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

You are calling the Bible "a 2000 year old book" but would probably talk of the Vedas or the Upanishads - which are much older - with much respect.

We know why, don't we.

Uncus
2005-11-09, 21:09
quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

Personally i dont care for fags either way. Sure the religious side of me says its an abomination, but im not going to go activist because of it. Just fucking tell them that because of your religion that you think its wrong. No big deal. Doesnt mean you cant maintain friendship or anything.

Surely it must be possible to maintain friendship while at the same time reproving homosexuality. You have still a right to your own thoughts, whomever you are a friend to.

Beta69
2005-11-09, 21:25
I would treat parts of the Vedas that are outdated and support hate with just as much respect as similar parts in the bible.

theBishop
2005-11-09, 21:26
Pat Robertson should convert to judaism. He has an old-testament view of the world.

Jesus must've been a hypocrite then, hanging out with prostitutes.

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Axiom
2005-11-10, 04:37
quote:Originally posted by xoctopusx:

homosexualality is wrong according to the Bible.

Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."



I've never understood this verse... What the hell does lie with mankind mean? and how does that translate into homesexuals?

To me, I always thought lie meant support (or rely) on mankind or womankind... A person should rely on God and not his or her fellow man...

The line before is

Leviticus 18:21

And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Axiom
2005-11-10, 04:51
19

neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

THAT’S! an abomination…

26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. 27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. 28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD

No Steak;

No Magic;

No Clocks;

No Haircuts;

No Goatees;

No Feeding the Dead; …Fair enough

No Tattoos;

27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones:

No Magicians;

I feel this isn’t a creditable source to use when arguing wether homosexuality is a sin… As clearly it’s the only abomination in the verse that people a choosing to uphold… Except the incest and bestiality ones, but they’re not easily broken…