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WeaponsOMassIdiot
2005-08-31, 14:38
saw_off_pump, you did not prove a point.

First of all, who created God? Chaos?

If Chaos created God, then that means God is evil, considering the fact that Chaos is evil.

Second, there is many infinite values in the Earth mathematics, i.e. Pi's digit count is infinite.

WeaponsOMassIdiot
2005-08-31, 14:42
Third, if Chaos did not create God, then where did "he" come from?

Like you said, there cant be nothing before something? Answer me that saw_off_pump.

The Big Bang is a credible theory of how life developed....

Ok heres my big question, what about dinosaurs???

I mean we find their bones, we find them frozen in ice, etc....what does the Bible have to say about them?

You tell me that, and I'll be happy.

Paradise Lost
2005-08-31, 14:48
Are you talking about Chaos, as in the greek mythology?

WeaponsOMassIdiot
2005-08-31, 15:02
Gee, howd you know?

You cannot say that Chaos is not apart of other religions too, or else that you will be implying the fact that there was nothing before God, and in sawed_off_pump's words, "There cant just be nothing, and then everything"

Paradise Lost
2005-08-31, 15:10
No need to get angry, we're all family here.

If you havn't noticed theists generally posit that god has always been. That nothing created it, which goes against their belief that something can't come from nothing.



Can you elaborate on how Chaos is relevant here?

WeaponsOMassIdiot
2005-08-31, 15:28
Something can come from nothing, i.e. the fact of life itself and the Big Bang.

And what about the dinosaurs?

Where are they in the Bible?

What about the very first single celled organisms?

Paradise Lost
2005-08-31, 15:31
It didn't come from nothing, I think Hawking covered this (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Because before the singularity there wasn't anything!

bombtrack
2005-08-31, 15:52
Just because it's almost impossible for us to concieve of true nothingness it does not mean we should attribute the existence of the universe to God. You can't and should'nt base an argument for the existence of God on what we don't know but rather what we do know

Uncus
2005-08-31, 21:41
quote:Originally posted by WeaponsOMassIdiot:

The Big Bang is a credible theory of how life developed....

The Big Bang doesn't say anything about life.

And where does itself come from ? How did that big bang come into existence ? WHAT exploded ?

No answers.

If you and I are witnessing an explosion, we know that someone put something there to explode, or that the explosion was caused by a malfunctioning "something" - or something.

But SOMETHING was there before the explosion, in any event.

The_Rabbi
2005-08-31, 21:45
GOOD GOD! Just stop fucking talking about it. We will NEVER find the answer. It is impossible.

It will never end. You'll always be asking 'but what was before?," or "then who created that?"

Just fucking GIVE IT UP. Your life will be a whole lot easier.