I'm tired of pseudo-theological debates. Stop searching for confirmation of your individuality/intellect by posting anything that resembles: "You fucking christians are so ignorant, your blind, its all a lie man, cant you see its a fairy tale to teach you the difference between right and wrong etc."

Much of the bible was written down hundreds of years after the event in question supposedly happend. Yes, most of it was passed down through oral tradition, which is not as bad as it seems. When something is taught to you, you can question it, interrogate the teacher, with written text there is no questioning. When you have nothing but written texts from thousands of years ago you have nothing but interpretations, which will differ from person to person. It is rare to find a discussion today that differs from:

"This passage says this..."

"But this passage says that..."

"But that passage really means...etc."

Much of the bible has been translated through multiple languages, and many literary techniques have been misinterpreted. Many of the scribes could have disregarded passages that did not match the train of thought at the time. News flash "The bible is not 100% accurate."

That is not a logical reason to disregard the entire text and the principles it represents, and it is certainly not a reason to make generalized statements about those who believe in it. Wow, someone has faith in something that isn't proven, heres a thought, nothing is for certain.

"But if God knows whats going to happen then everything is planned and it doesnt matter what i do and its all Gods fault"

Shut up. There is no certainty that there is a being that knows all and sees all and the term God is in essence, identical to natural law, gravity, physics, etc. Powers that control everything. And if there is an all knowing being, knowledge of the future doesn't mean control over the future. The future would be dependent on the current situation.

And to the people who see it as there duty to condemn the non believers, do you really think if jesus was here today he would be saying things like "Fuck the gays, jews, muslims and anything else that doesn't look like me!"?

If you believe in the bible, learn it, understand its messages and compensate for the inconsistencies with reasoning and logic.

Stop being assholes.

I hope you get the point and stop posting repetitive garbage on totse.

Have a nice day.

quote:Originally posted by mixedbloods:

Much of the bible has been translated through multiple languages, and many literary techniques have been misinterpreted. Many of the scribes could have disregarded passages that did not match the train of thought at the time. News flash "The bible is not 100% accurate."



I'm with you on all of this petty arguing: its stupid; when a source isn't completely accurate, however, are you really going to accept everything it claims? It's rather like a tabloid (no disrespect meant to any Christians).

If a newspaper prints a story and some of the details are rather sketchy, maybe even disgustingly false, are you really going to trust everything that newspaper editor puts out? I don't think any rational man would.

The Bible is obviously a book of faith and should be taken as such (i.e. contextually, not literally, interpreted), but still, I wouldn't organize and live my life around anything that isn't completely accurate.

That said, the Bible has some pretty good messages of peace and compassion, moreso the New Testament than the Old Testament, in which Jesus showed the Christian God as a loving god, rather than a punitive one.

I'd rather just pick the good from the bad out of everything I've learned and experienced, then combine them into my own philosophy. To hell with organized religion.

If you can make up your own set of decent rules and values and still be a rational man, you've gone farther than anybody else.

If you want to just follow the message of the Bible, then just be a Buddhist. Same general idea, simply much better execution. And as long as there are people who believe in the literal Bible, we'll contine to have these arguements. Especially as a prime tenant of Christianity is the active conversion of others, supposedly for their own benefit.