so, this catholic sect opus dei, they whip themselves with spiked chains and wear a spiky thing which digs into their thigh, this goes on today.

apparently this helps them to "get closer to god"

or is the real truth behind it: catholic church is full of S&M freak homosexuals/child molesters.

hmmm

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

so, this catholic sect opus dei, they whip themselves with spiked chains and wear a spiky thing which digs into their thigh, this goes on today.

When is a better time for it, tomorrow?

quote:apparently this helps them to "get closer to god"

Self Flagellation is nothing new and nothing uniquely Christian. It also enables Opians to atone for their sins and the sins of others, and express their love of Christ. Better than anything you ever done, anywayk kid.

quote:or is the real truth behind it: catholic church is full of S&M freak homosexuals/child molesters.

If you can think of a better place for them I'd like to hear it.

quote:hmmm

Humming is a sign of weak mindedness and very bad elocution, stop it.

So in summary, God may love you, but I think you're a prick. Not original, perhaps, but then again, what is?

crazydefensivechristian

are they that desperate to get closer to god? just drop dead dude.

no the da vinchi code is just making shit up again it is a conservative organization however he completely makes up the part about them giving large ammounts of money to the vatican and heavily exagerates the self flatulation stuff

quote:Originally posted by NiggersWithAttitude:

self flatulation

As opposed to making someone else fart?

And, please don't make a thread after finishing Da Vinci Code, or getting to that part in the book.

da vinci code-fiction

opus dei- real

it is a conservative organisation? well duhhhh.

http://www.odan.org/

"""ODAN is a worldwide community of people who have had painful experiences as a result of their association with Opus Dei."""

My ass... they're all wackos.

quote:Originally posted by NiggersWithAttitude:

self flatulation

Oh come on. I already spelled it out for you. You guys aren't even trying.

Unless you meant it. Self-flatuation, fartin' for God. I've heard of worse.

hahahaha! What a fucking retard. Opus Dei is not some secret sect of Catholics. They don't whip themselves or anything of the sort. What's funny is that this is not the first time I have heard this, some protestant moron I knew also though this. I can assure you that it's false. Opus Dei is a private organization mostly dedicated to donating money to charitees. try this:

http://www.opusdei.org/

shows how smart you are

quote:Originally posted by Shylok:

hahahaha! What a fucking retard. Opus Dei is not some secret sect of Catholics. They don't whip themselves or anything of the sort. What's funny is that this is not the first time I have heard this, some protestant moron I knew also though this. I can assure you that it's false. Opus Dei is a private organization mostly dedicated to donating money to charitees. try this:

http://www.opusdei.org/

shows how smart you are

ht tp://www.o pusdei.org /art.php?w =32&p=9316 (http: //www.opus dei.org/ar t.php?w=32 &p=9316)

Shows how smart you are, on that very site you posted, states that Opus Dei do practice 'Coporol Mortification', although it is greatly exaggerated in the Da Vinci Code.

There was also a program about Unlocking the Da Vinci Code over here in the UK, where they interviewed a member of Opus Dei, he said he practiced it also and even explained what it felt like.



[This message has been edited by TheNihilist (edited 10-05-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by Issue313:

Self Flagellation is nothing new and nothing uniquely Christian.

True.

A quote regarding 'The Way of Pain'

"Pain is not only the way out, but the way in and down. Spiritual life can easily become imbalanced and fixated at a certain point if the bright aspect of Truth or God is not balanced with its shadow aspect. St. John of the Cross says that the principal value of the 'dark night of contemplation' is to know one's own misery, which brings balance and humility to the exalted states of communion and abundance."

(italics added for emphasis)

From this site:

http://tinyurl.com/cj3cw



You can also look up rituals of the Native Americans. They have rituals that are very painful but said to induce a deep spiritual experience.

I'm sure there are other cultures that have similar practices as well.

quote:Originally posted by NiggersWithAttitude:

self flatulation

I must be a good catholic. I self flatulate at least 25 times a day.

Matter of fact......

**HONK**

AHHHHHHH......

opus dei=bsdm