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Sarith
2005-09-27, 16:08
just a quick question to anyone who might know the answer.

where in the bibles does it say how old the universe is? I've heard 6000 years, 10000 years and just the other day a friend of mine struck it to me that the age of the world isn't stated anywhere. I haven't closely read all the bibles so i dont know for myself but does anyone know if this is true?

QStrange
2005-09-27, 16:33
1000000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000 years

Beta69
2005-09-27, 16:38
At one point the original calculations by Ussher were added to the bible as if they were gospel.

No the age is never stated, it is assumed by calculating back through the chronologies. This is in no way exact. depending on which translations you read, attempts at error correction, etc. The date can vary from 6000 years to 10,000 years and everywhere in between. In generally they seem to calculate out to 6,000 or 7,500 years.

12,000 years is another calculation. It is reached based on a verse that says a day is 1000 years to God and then assumes the 6 days of creation were 6000 years long and the earth had been around for another 6000.

(A mild end times millennium panic resulted from this, since God rested after 6000 years it was assumed that when the earths 6000 years were up the end times would come and God would allow christians to rest.)

ryanl
2005-09-27, 17:10
The world is 5,765 years old.

Ryan

SurahAhriman
2005-09-27, 17:20
According to literalist Christianity, approximately 6000 years is the best result I've seen.



According to science, approximately 13 billion years.

ryanl
2005-09-27, 17:30
quote:Originally posted by SurahAhriman:

According to literalist Christianity, approximately 6000 years is the best result I've seen.



According to science, approximately 13 billion years.

In case you didn't know. Jesus was Jewish. 100 years after he died laws were changed to seperate the new religion from Judaism. One of the things that was changed was the calender from "since creation" to b.c.e and a.c.e.

Jews still follow the calender since creation and we are in year 5,765 and in a week and a half 5,766.

Ryan

Fundokiller
2005-09-28, 04:58
oo years

SurahAhriman
2005-09-28, 08:08
quote:Originally posted by ryanl:

In case you didn't know. Jesus was Jewish. 100 years after he died laws were changed to seperate the new religion from Judaism. One of the things that was changed was the calender from "since creation" to b.c.e and a.c.e.

Jews still follow the calender since creation and we are in year 5,765 and in a week and a half 5,766.

Ryan

I'm sure they think it is. I don't know if you know this, but the Christian one is derived from counting back through the geneologies. Some famous European theologean did the math in the 18th century.

Snoopy
2005-09-28, 09:04
quote:Originally posted by ryanl:

In case you didn't know. Jesus was Jewish. 100 years after he died laws were changed to seperate the new religion from Judaism. One of the things that was changed was the calender from "since creation" to b.c.e and a.c.e.

Jews still follow the calender since creation and we are in year 5,765 and in a week and a half 5,766.

Ryan

You're also a dirty kike ass jewbag and we'll send you packing to your creator, real soon like. Don't you worry, son.

I'm sorry, did I insult you?

pseudouser
2005-09-28, 13:18
quote:where in the bibles does it say how old the universe is? I've heard 6000 years, 10000 years and just the other day a friend of mine struck it to me that the age of the world isn't stated anywhere. I haven't closely read all the bibles so i dont know for myself but does anyone know if this is true?

Some archbishop in the 1800's added up all the ages of the patriarchs & all the "begats" & things & decided the world was created in 4004 b.c., on October the 16th, if memory serves. That would make the universe about 6009 years old. In about 2 weeks.

Beta69
2005-09-28, 16:44
The Archbishop's name was Ussher. He lived in the 16th-17th centuries.

NeoIceshroom
2005-09-28, 20:25
Approximately 14 billion years. If you're not a christian and actually beleive that the universe was created close to it's current state a mere 6,000 years or so ago... I feel sorry for anyone who beleives that.

Mercury_firefly
2005-09-28, 23:26
14 billion years.

Unless anyone has sound, factual, scientific data to support any other number, then they should just shut the fuck up

Snoopy
2005-09-28, 23:31
Time is relative to the entity that's perceiving it. If I didn't know better, I'd say I'm a few thousand years old. And maybe I don't know better.

john_deer
2005-09-29, 03:29
no body knows how old the universe is the six days god created the universe in is fiqurative. HUMANS have been on teh earth according to bible chronology for about 6000 years, give or take a few hundered.

those radio-carbon dating things suck ass, they dont give accurate measurments at all.

Paradise Lost
2005-09-29, 03:55
quote:Originally posted by john_deer:

those radio-carbon dating things suck ass, they dont give accurate measurments at all.

Here's a bit of irony. The Dead Sea Scrolls were tested with C-14 dating!

I also suggest you read this. (http://tinyurl.com/25vsd)

Lou Reed
2005-09-29, 14:39
old

Beta69
2005-09-29, 15:30
Carbon dating isn't even used to date the total age of the earth let alone the universe.