View Full Version : buddhist killing (not about killing buddhists)
Cakenggt
2005-10-24, 00:34
in the buddhist religion, would the bad karma of killing a person be outweighed by the fact that the person is going to harm or even kill many other people. i know u should prolly go to the police in this situation, but im just asking for the moral answer.
Tacit_Attack
2005-10-24, 01:03
Nope, well I don't think so. Buddhists say you shouldn't kill anything. Someone more into Buddhism can give you a reason why. I think it's you have to have compassion for all people even the murderer, in that he's only trying to escape from suffering. But I'm not sure. If you kill the murderer though, you can nullify the bad karmac seeds with remorse and understaning of your actions.
Tommy Lund
2005-10-24, 01:15
As far as murder goes, this is part of the tree unsound bodily acts, this will not affect karma as such but more shila and the inner calm.
This will put your body in disbalance.
So, taking out karma this will have a negative effect larger than the one you achieve.
As to taking the point of karma into it and answering your question, Karma has never been a bank account.
If you step on a bug, this makes you sad the karmic effect is lessened if you feel sad about it, it is not anulled.
One can draw similarities with your proposal, if you kill someone because he has killed someone, the karmic effect on you in your later lives will be lessened, but they will still be there. Who are you to judge what he deserves?
His karma will find him in his next life, as will yours find you.
[This message has been edited by Tommy Lund (edited 10-24-2005).]
Cakenggt
2005-10-24, 01:20
what i meant was...that you kill a person that is going to kill someone... as in, he is on the way to end a person or multiple persons lives, and you have a choice whether or not to kill him.
Tommy Lund
2005-10-24, 01:43
Ahh, i am sorry. I do belive i missread your initial post. It is 4 in the morning.
On this view it is again not much karma, and i do have a radical way of reading it.
To respond to that. Dukkha (pain, suffering etc) exist. This is the first of the four noble truths.
There is the story of a griving woman that came to Buddja with the body of her dead son. She had waited long for a child and he died young. She was beyond comfort and asked Buddha to turn her child alive again.
Buddha thought and said that the woman should go to every house in the village and ask for a sead of mustard in each house where death had not occured.
The woman became happy and knocked on doors for hours carrying the body of her dead child.
When the night came she was exhausted, not finding one house that had not witnessed death in the family, not getting one sead.
And thus is it will all that lives, all that lives must die. We are just as poverless when death comes.
In my eyes this explaines that one should not interfere with death, death comes when it should. We are but leaves floating down the river of life. Who are we to deside when another leaf should drown?
So, i do belive that you should not interfere. You will suffer karma from it.
[This message has been edited by Tommy Lund (edited 10-24-2005).]
To possess shaolin kung-fu powers and NOT use them to murder people, would be bad karma. Pussies!
Cancerous Cretin
2005-10-24, 09:39
damn right shotties, whats the point of being able to resist a spear going through your skin when all your gona do is back down. id be breaking motherfuckers wrists fromt he get go
serenitynow
2005-10-24, 11:46
It's a fact of life that sooner or later, everyone dies.
But it shouldn't come to a 'kill or be killed' situation. Most things can be resolved without killing
Dre Crabbe
2005-10-24, 17:41
quote:Originally posted by Cancerous Cretin:
damn right shotties, whats the point of being able to resist a spear going through your skin when all your gona do is back down. id be breaking motherfuckers wrists fromt he get go
It was Snoopy... and don't ruin other peoples topics please.
Cakenggt
2005-10-24, 20:27
but like what if the guy isnt just a murderer...like he's this mob guy, and not just like any mob guy, but hes like the don or someone very close to the top, so that the person is practically immune to the law, cause no prosecuter would go against him, like in sin city. and they guy isnt just killing people, but hes also doing all sorts of things that make the general state of the world deteriorate, and generally make people suffer alot more. i know that suffering is a part of life, but by taking this guy out, you could let the suffering of normal life continue and save people from more unneeded suffering. he'd also be corrupting the youth, so that pretty much everybody in the city is going to be as rotten as him in 10 years. i know that it brings about bad karma to kill any living being, but killing this guy would improve the state of the city and help alot of other people out by taking away his influence........this is sorta turning into a boondock saints kinda set up.
quote:Originally posted by serenitynow:
It's a fact of life that sooner or later, everyone dies.
But it shouldn't come to a 'kill or be killed' situation. Most things can be resolved without killing
Tell that to the middle east Arabs and Muslims.