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whiteboyfalldown
2005-11-04, 19:39
Im doing a report for my world religion class on religios fundamentalism, Pretty much we can choose any fundamental religion mainstream or not and pretty much give information on every aspect of said religion.

Now don't worry Im not asking anyone of you to wright the report for me but, I am having a hard time choosing a fundamental religion that is both interesting and has alot of information about it.

so in a nutshell, I just need names of interesting fundamental religions

hyroglyphx
2005-11-04, 20:48
quote:Originally posted by whiteboyfalldown:

Im doing a report for my world religion class on religios fundamentalism, Pretty much we can choose any fundamental religion mainstream or not and pretty much give information on every aspect of said religion.

Now don't worry Im not asking anyone of you to wright the report for me but, I am having a hard time choosing a fundamental religion that is both interesting and has alot of information about it.

so in a nutshell, I just need names of interesting fundamental religions

Islam.... How it stole all it's doctrines from Judeo-Christendom and pawned it off as their own, through Mohammed. Ah, Mohammed.... the prophet who made no prophecies. It's an easy and fun A+ for your class. What class btw?

Aseren
2005-11-04, 21:50
quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

Islam.... How it stole all it's doctrines from Judeo-Christendom and pawned it off as their own, through Mohammed.

Fool of the year award goes to >Hyroglyphx<. Congrats son, get up here and get claim you're price.

Tyrant
2005-11-04, 22:27
Uh... Fundamentalism is an attitude towards a particular religion. A religion is not in and of itself "fundamentalist."

Burning_Prophet
2005-11-04, 23:59
Fundamentalism is a kind of reformation movement within a given religion. When the symbol system of said religion begins to lose power, no longer able to control the populace the way it used to, the faithful traditionally split into one of two schools of thought: fundamentalist and modernist. Both recognize that there is something wrong with the way their religion is being practiced, but where the modernist tends to try to include antiauthoritarian elements, however awkwardly, the fundamentalist believes that the problem lies in the lack of literal interperetaion of and obedience to their holy scriptures. Fundamentalism is about fear, plain and simple, the fear of people who know that power is shifting away from them. This can be easily witnessed by the fundamentalist, evangelical fervor that is so vocal in America, Africa, and the Middle East today.

AngryFemme
2005-11-05, 01:16
You want interesting? Research the Pentacostal faith, focusing on the backwood tabernacles and such. You've got snake handlers, self-mutilation, the "holy ghost" phenomena...

It's pretty warped, to me. Those people are hardcore and steadfast in their beliefs, and they rejoice in testing the Lord's will on themselves in very experimental (insane!) ways. Like all denominational sub-religions and their different interpretations of the Holy Bible, I'm sure not all strains of Pentacostalism go to those extremes.

malaria
2005-11-05, 02:31
Mennonites or Anabaptists.

literary syphilis
2005-11-05, 03:31
quote:Originally posted by AngryFemme:

You want interesting? Research the Pentacostal faith, focusing on the backwood tabernacles and such. You've got snake handlers, self-mutilation, the "holy ghost" phenomena...

I heartily endorse this event and/or product.

erbus
2005-11-05, 04:32
Mormanism. Very interesting religion. Also, you might want to try to look into Puritanism if you need a historical viewpoint. The Shakers (who founded the city that I reside in) were very fundamentalist and utopian. Look them up if you want. The Millerites were just hilarious (and arguably fundamentalist); William Miller fortold that Jesus would return to earth on a given day, thus all the Millerites literally packed the luggage and waited in trees for 10 days for Jesus to come and rescue them.

Sig_Intel
2005-11-05, 05:06
quote:Originally posted by AngryFemme:

You want interesting? Research the Pentacostal faith, focusing on the backwood tabernacles and such. You've got snake handlers, self-mutilation, the "holy ghost" phenomena...

It's pretty warped, to me. Those people are hardcore and steadfast in their beliefs, and they rejoice in testing the Lord's will on themselves in very experimental (insane!) ways. Like all denominational sub-religions and their different interpretations of the Holy Bible, I'm sure not all strains of Pentacostalism go to those extremes.



They don't. I attend a Pentacostal church and I've whitnessed none of what you said.

Sig_Intel
2005-11-05, 05:13
I'm not sure what you're tasked with in regards to "fundamental" religion but here's a few you can check out.

New Ageism - ie The age of the Aquarius.

http://www.lucistrust.org/

Alien worship - Remember Clonaid? These are the guys who are behind it...

http://www.rael.org/

Atheism

http://www.mwillett.org/athiest.htm

AngryFemme
2005-11-05, 11:46
quote:Originally posted by Sig_Intel:

They don't. I attend a Pentacostal church and I've whitnessed none of what you said.

I had the unlucky misfortune of witnessing everything I described, save for the snake handling. (I watched a PBS documentary about that).

The Pentacostal strain I was exposed to scared the living daylights out of me. I know they exist because I still have remote family members who practice it.

Don't believe me? Take a roadtrip down to South Louisiana. Begin there, deep in the swamp communities and the little nowhere towns in between the bayous. Then head north up towards the Ozark Mountains in Arkansas. It's a thriving religious sector that dominates the rural South.

I've met "city" Pentacostals who weren't quite as extreme. You seem pretty well balanced as a practicing Pentacostal, but I'm here to tell you- I was brought up in the type of scenario I described. I experienced it firsthand.

You provided a link to Atheism on your fundamental religion suggestions.

Atheism is not a religion, or a faith. Faith is believing in a diety, god or supreme being. If you have faith in the above three, you're a theist. An atheist is just the opposite. Without faith, without belief, and the absence of the diety, god or supreme being.

You can't call atheism a religion based on the fact that they are unbelievers.

I don't believe in flying hippos, either. Does that mean that I'm a part of a "No Flying Hippos" Religion?

napoleon_complex
2005-11-05, 14:21
quote:Main Entry: re·li·gion Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&nFunction: nounEtymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY 1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS

4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

- re·li·gion·less adjective

It seems to me that if you used definition four then one could make a case for atheism being a religion.

hyroglyphx
2005-11-05, 17:06
quote:Originally posted by Aseren:

Fool of the year award goes to >Hyroglyphx<. Congrats son, get up here and get claim you're price.

If you call someone a fool because you disagree with what they're saying, it's customary to add reasons why you think the other is a fool... So, please enlighten us o'wise one.

SurahAhriman
2005-11-05, 20:24
quote:Originally posted by napoleon_complex:

It seems to me that if you used definition four then one could make a case for atheism being a religion.

Some atheists. Most of us just don't think there is a God. It's a rational thing to me, I don't have any emotion invested in the idea. If I'm proven wrong, I'll accept it, and move on, probably to my specific problems with specific religions.

Sig_Intel
2005-11-05, 22:42
The saying, " making no decision is still a decision" I think addresses it in a way. Just because somebody doesn't think it's there doesn't mean it's not there.

In fact I only know oxygen exists because sometime in my past somebody explained it to me. I wonder if nobody ever told me about oxygen, would I still be able to breath today? Ignorance doesn't negate truth.



[This message has been edited by Sig_Intel (edited 11-05-2005).]

Tyrant
2005-11-06, 08:42
quote:Originally posted by napoleon_complex:

It seems to me that if you used definition four then one could make a case for atheism being a religion.

Rust, you awake?

AngryFemme
2005-11-06, 10:52
^ This argument has been done before.

(At least 5-6 times a year. At least.)

Axiom
2005-11-06, 11:38
quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

Islam.... How it stole all it's doctrines from Judeo-Christendom and pawned it off as their own, through Mohammed. Ah, Mohammed.... the prophet who made no prophecies. It's an easy and fun A+ for your class. What class btw?



Ahhhh.... You mean unlike the prophet Moses who stole his commandments from King Hammurabi... Perhaps you mean Noah's ark, which recounts the story of gilgamesh some 2700 years later... No, maybe those Islamic bastards stole that story about the Garden of Eden, wait no... That was the legend of Adapa....

Sorry, what Judeo-Christendom-Babylonian doctrine are you referring too?

Edit: Triumph! I've worked it out... The doctrine that states "The Iraqi people should be freed"... That is a doctrine that was definitely 'stole'...

[This message has been edited by Axiom (edited 11-06-2005).]

Tyrant
2005-11-06, 18:10
AngryFemme:

Yea, and usually it's Rust and I who partakes in it. That's why I'm wondering where he is; he should've been all up on it.

sii
2005-11-07, 15:51
I know this will sound rather unorthodox, but a professor of mine probably gave the best definition of fundamentalism:

"Fundamentalism is a theory of READING AND ITNERPRETING TEXTS, whereby everything in a particular text (in this case, holy textx) is interpreted on a literal level".

whiteboyfalldown
2005-11-07, 16:57
quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

What class btw?



world religion class.

I was already took a much more advanced course in my old school but the one thing we didn't touch on was fundamentalism.