Okay,this as a whole kind of scares me.My friend a few days ago proposed to me thet Hitler was a riencarnation of Jesus,and he was getting the Jews back for not believeing in him,I called him stupid and thought nothing of it,yet last night i was thinking about the whole thing and it made sense why?

"They" say that the second coming of Jesus, he would destroy the non-believers, and well,that is what Hitler tryed to do,is it not? And think about the swastika, its a bent cross, and im sure Jesus didn't like being up on that cross,so yeah,I'm not sure if this is a decent theory er no,but this all is kind of creepy,because I'm not religious in anyway and this got me thinking......

maybe, but that just solidifies my opinion that jesus was crazy

You need to educate yourself on Hitler and the NAZI party. He was trying to kill everyone who didn't appear "Arian"

He was trying to build a pure race of Arians using methods of occultism, infanticide, euthianasia for the elderly and handicapped, as well as genecide to work towards his perfect human race. Along with millions of Jews that were killed there were a great number of Christians and non-christians killed as well.



Educate yourself on the Ministry of Jesus. He came to give life and to give it in abundace. He came to preach love to all that would accept it. He never harmed anybody but healed them.

Your friends theory is completly false. The second coming of Jesus will be the the mark of the end of the world. The return of Jesus will be the end of measured time and the destruction of this world and universe. Since we are both here, your friends false witness is proven as such, false.

wow, how positive.

hitler was a nazi...he didnt like anyone that wasnt german.

quote:Originally posted by Sig_Intel:

You need to educate yourself on Hitler and the NAZI party. ... Along with millions of Jews that were killed ...





Apparently you need to educate youself as well. There wasn't even close to ONE million jews killed, but a mere 300,000.

quote:Originally posted by TweEeKeR:

Apparently you need to educate youself as well. There wasn't even close to ONE million jews killed, but a mere 300,000.

well actually about 6 million jews died in the holocoaust. i have no idea where you got this number. I think that is the muber just for german jews but for all jews it is about 5-6 million.

lol 6 million not 300,000 and the church (in germany) actual backed hitler while he was coming into power.

The swastika is not a bent cross. It was a symbol Hitler created (remember he was an artist and had made the art of propoganda his medium) derived from the Asian symbol for power. Only he painted it backwards. Which kind of takes the meaning out of it. But, that's where the swastika came from.

Cheers,

Lost

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

The swastika is not a bent cross. It was a symbol Hitler created (remember he was an artist and had made the art of propoganda his medium) derived from the Asian symbol for power. Only he painted it backwards. Which kind of takes the meaning out of it. But, that's where the swastika came from.

Cheers,

Lost



It's a sacred symbol in Buddhism, Jainism, and Hinduism. Hindus (hindusists?) have a right-facing one (the good one) and a left-facing one (evil).

I think it was also a Navajo symbol for peace, or luck, or something, but really I have no idea.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

The swastika is not a bent cross. It was a symbol Hitler created (remember he was an artist and had made the art of propoganda his medium) derived from the Asian symbol for power. Only he painted it backwards. Which kind of takes the meaning out of it. But, that's where the swastika came from.

Cheers,

Lost

No, it's the right way 'round. Pointing right, that is; the "good" symbol. He wanted to draw buildings, not symbols, and the propaganda master was Goebbels. Like NavySeal said, it's wide-spread (was also Persian) and all of the versions I've heard of were meant to mean goodness, prosperity, etc (if pointing to right; left was of course the opposite).

Interesting to note that its offical Nazi name was the "Hakenkreuz", or "Broken Cross".

quote:You need to educate yourself on Hitler and the NAZI party. He was trying to kill everyone who didn't appear "Arian"

He was trying to build a pure race of Arians using methods of occultism, infanticide, euthianasia for the elderly and handicapped, as well as genecide to work towards his perfect human race. Along with millions of Jews that were killed there were a great number of Christians and non-christians killed as well.

Aryan* The only Occultism involved was that of Himmler and his Nordic Revivalists, at whom Hitler sneered. He did not kill any Christian based on their religion, certainly.

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If the facts that Charlie 40 Hands presented were apt, that would be a cool theory. Not scary, but Holy.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:



No, it's the right way 'round. Pointing right, that is; the "good" symbol. He wanted to draw buildings, not symbols, and the propaganda master was Goebbels. Like NavySeal said, it's wide-spread (was also Persian) and all of the versions I've heard of were meant to mean goodness, prosperity, etc (if pointing to right; left was of course the opposite).

Interesting to note that its offical Nazi name was the "Hakenkreuz", or "Broken Cross".

You need to educate yourself on Hitler and the NAZI party. He was trying to kill everyone who didn't appear "Arian"

He was trying to build a pure race of Arians using methods of occultism, infanticide, euthianasia for the elderly and handicapped, as well as genecide to work towards his perfect human race. Along with millions of Jews that were killed there were a great number of Christians and non-christians killed as well.

Aryan* The only Occultism involved was that of Himmler and his Nordic Revivalists, at whom Hitler sneered. He did not kill any Christian based on their religion, certainly.



I don't know really what you're trying to prove, but alright...

Anyways, yea, I don't know an incredible ammount about Hitler besides what I learned in high school and from growing up Jewish. My grandparents were Holocaust victims, and they knew quite a bit about him and it and the whole thing, but frankly after hearing the horrible stories a million times, it kind of just annoys me now.

I was taught in high school that the swastika was a creation of Hitlers taken from a specifically Chinese symbol (I believe it's some kind of I-Ching symbol) meaning Power, but that to make it his own symbol he reversed it.

I'm well aware of what Hitler liked to paint. I'm not saying he was into painting symbols, but I was taught that he created it - the swastika - himself.

That's what I learned.

Cheers,

Lost

you were taught wrong.

No he wasn't really. Hitler was an Arists before he got into politics but he wasnt accepted into an art school. And the swastika was taken off some religion as a symbol of peace... or some similar meaning.

The swastika has been used by many cultures. Chinese, Indian, native american. Probably more. Its a pretty basic symbol to make. I think any kid playing with sticks will end up making it at some point.

quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

No he wasn't really. Hitler was an Artist before he got into politics but he wasnt accepted into an art school. And the swastika was taken off some religion as a symbol of peace... or some similar meaning.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

I don't know really what you're trying to prove, but alright...

Nothing. I'd just learned differently and decided to post my thoughts.

quote:I was taught in high school that the swastika was a creation of Hitlers taken from a specifically Chinese symbol (I believe it's some kind of I-Ching symbol) meaning Power, but that to make it his own symbol he reversed it.

I haven't heard that; most of my sources say that the right-pointing swastika was a Persian/Indian/Aryan symbol meaning "good fortune" and so forth.

quote:I'm well aware of what Hitler liked to paint. I'm not saying he was into painting symbols, but I was taught that he created it - the swastika - himself.

It could be. I've heard lots of different versions.

IF JESUS WAS THE REAL SON OF GOD HOW COULD HE BE REINCARNATED YOU FUCKING ANKLEWANK.

Reincarnation = Not christian.

quote:Originally posted by TweEeKeR:

Apparently you need to educate youself as well. There wasn't even close to ONE million jews killed, but a mere 300,000.

We generally don't like you sick, Nazi, skinhead types here in the MODERN world.

Edit: I also really don't like it when people look at me funny if I have a manji etched somewhere on my person, but I do it anyway just to piss them off http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

quote:Originally posted by charlie 40 hands:

[B]And think about the swastika, its a bent cross, and im sure Jesus didn't like being up on that cross[B]

The swastika came from the symbol of the Thule Society, which was a society which was heavily involved in occultism and so was Hitler.

quote:Originally posted by charlie 40 hands:

Okay,this as a whole kind of scares me.My friend a few days ago proposed to me thet Hitler was a riencarnation of Jesus,and he was getting the Jews back for not believeing in him,I called him stupid and thought nothing of it,yet last night i was thinking about the whole thing and it made sense why?

"They" say that the second coming of Jesus, he would destroy the non-believers, and well,that is what Hitler tryed to do,is it not? And think about the swastika, its a bent cross, and im sure Jesus didn't like being up on that cross,so yeah,I'm not sure if this is a decent theory er no,but this all is kind of creepy,because I'm not religious in anyway and this got me thinking......

I am very religious and reading this scard me, but a moment of lax spawns a lifetime of heresy.

first problem: reincarnation doesn't actually happen.

second problem: the bible is a load of bull, and so is national sociallism.

quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

No he wasn't really. Hitler was an Arists before he got into politics but he wasnt accepted into an art school. And the swastika was taken off some religion as a symbol of peace... or some similar meaning.

LOL.

Would be pretty funny seeing how history would have wound up if Hitler was accepted as a painter. No WWII, no Holocaust, no bullshit!

Hitler aquired it from the anceint runic and Norse background so case closed.

for reference look up, Thunder cross, solar cross.

Hitler fits the discription of the second Anti-christ much better. The irony is that Christ and the Anti-christ are very similar in perception, but their actions are greatly different. The Anti-christ is best known and feared for his ability to fool those who are unrightcheous to follow him on the road that is supposed to lead to heaven, but in reality is a direct route to hell. I wonder who'll be the third Anti-Christ?

Hitler should have killed all the blacks first. Jews are good hard working people.

From what I know:

Jesus = Care about everyone and forgives everyone.

Hitler = Fucking war mastermind.

Dont really see the resembilence.

I'm not Christian but I still find that a completely idiotic theory. Jesus was well known for his acceptance of EVERYBODY. He hung out with prostitutes, socialised with lepers, explained that Samaritans can be nice people too... Hitler was the complete polar opposite of Jesus. Stupid!