im not trying to push my religion on other peple, i just had a religous epiphany( is that the rigth word?) of sorts

think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god

sorry just had to post something i just had some deep thoughts on this subject.

God of the Gaps. (http://tinyurl.com/7nv36)

http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif) that was deep and new

Here's another 'only' answer. You remember how the universe is infinite? Infinite in time as well as space. If you think about your God, where'd that come from? Any answer you give I can give the same thing about the universe.

God is the only answer for a person with no question...

There is no true answer and i agree with Axiom on this. Many religions were originally stories and beliefs a few had made to explain something but then were mistaken by the ignorant as fact, thus forming a body of people that believe in the stories. Since the people that created the stories realized they had a following they created a system that accepts donations to support a "cause". Making the creators and all those people following the creators rich.

I'm glad you have reached a rational conclusion. http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

Theres a logical explanation for almost everything. But somethings just don't make sense and they prove Gods existance because its either something that we don't understand or know yet, or the work of God. So theres a 50/50 chance atleast. Like the miracle of life. We couldn't have just evolved from microscopic organisms that were the first on earth, and how did they get there in the first place? If you look at other things in depth like the big bang theory for example, you will see that it is very difficult to understand how it came about; just think about it. Also take into account that God could have just came up with the laws of physics that he could instantaneously change

like reverse intertia for example. He put us on this earth to test our faith in him and gain wisdom. Imagine what it would be like if we were just born into heaven or merged with God. We would know nothing, and consiousness would be pointless.

You don't have to take me seriously. I'm just your average 14 year old.

they re probably better off...

must non-christians seem to have a little piece of heaven...

quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:

think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god

Think about God. How did he get here?

If the universe is infinite, then how can one being, even with god like powers, truely control it all?

I mean think about it.

Lets put you in the position of god for a second. If you made everything and you knew everything and you controlled everything then your entire endless existence, would be so damn boring. It would be like watching the same Tv program over and over and over again for all eternity.

Not to mention that if there is only one God and no other, then you'd be an extremely lonely bored God.

Now if you can believe that God was spawned out of nothing then created the universe. Why can't you believe that the universe was spawned out of nothing, then life proceeded to evolve on its own?

"If you made everything and you knew everything and you controlled everything then your entire endless existence, would be so damn boring. It would be like watching the same Tv program over and over and over again for all eternity."

Comparing the way we think to the way an all powerful god would think if he even thought makes no sense.

The original poster's conclusion is illogical. He says that god is the only thing that can explain what we do not understand. He implies that putting faith into god is somehow more reasonable than putting faith into science. However, science has proven itself time and time again. Religions's assumptions have been disproven time and time again by science.

quote:If you look at other things in depth like the big bang theory for example, you will see that it is very difficult to understand how it came about; just think about it.

No, you will find it very difficult to understand how it came about. What in the name of fuck does this have to do with God?

quote:think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god

You mean "easy answer: god". Anyway, the universe isn't infinite. And you don't even know what "dimensions" means. And stars? How are they out of the ordinary? Pretty much everything in the universe is a star.

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quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:

im not trying to push my religion on other peple, i just had a religous epiphany( is that the rigth word?) of sorts

think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god

sorry just had to post something i just had some deep thoughts on this subject.

People that don't believe in God will kill your children.

quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:

how did it get there? only answer: god

How did God get there?

"God always has been and will always be there."

Great. Now change 'God' in that scentence to 'Universe'.

Now you don't have to worry about a god and have exactly as much mysteries about life to think about, but you don't put them on one pile and name them 'God'.

And don't say 'there hasn't been a universe always, it started at the big bang'. What do you think was there before? Exactly, an other universe. And this is a scyntifically proven thing.

quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:

im not trying to push my religion on other peple, i just had a religous epiphany( is that the rigth word?) of sorts

think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god

sorry just had to post something i just had some deep thoughts on this subject.



There are several theories that different physicists believe, none have been definately proven, but they are all theoretical possibilities that fit all of the scientific data that has been gathered so far. We may never know which one is right, because it is indescribably hard if not impossible for us as beings stuck inside of this universe and it's existance to think of and test things that happen outside of it, but here are some possibilities.

Many Worlds Interpretation: There are constantly countless big bangs going off in endless regions of outside our universe space which are starting new universes. One of them happened to yield the right conditions for what we have now.

Okay I'm too lazy to say more now but see also: Chaotic Inflation, String Theory, M-Theory, Higgs Fields, or Inflationary Cosmology. These are all good theories that can give you suggestions as to the origions of all the things above, and even one is enough to answer your question.

i dunno i wasnt thinking right when i posted this, i just had had a religious experience of sorts and i dont really know. my bad.

It is alright to feel as though you have noticed something new about the world. From one god came many parts of god. The stars, the air you breathe, the knowledge you are predisposed to learn.

All things come from the same gods that are believed in.

In the beginning, all was white light.

E=mc^2

mc^2=E

light->energy->mass

QM and QP

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How did god get there then? Who made him? And dont give me that bullshit that "he always was there".

quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:



think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god



This has got to be one of the stupider things I've read on MGCBTSOOYG. So your little brain decided to make some chemical reactions and you "came up" with an explanation religious people have had for quite a while. Thanks for putting the potential of the human mind back some years.

quote:Originally posted by Paradise Lost:

God of the Gaps. (http://tinyurl.com/7nv36)

See also:

Lie-to-children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie-to-children)

So you think that it is impossible that "All That Is" has existed forever in a self-sustaining, hyperbolic state?

You have a point... I mean, you can't just have something from nothing.

But, tell me again... How long did God exist before he necessarily created "All That Is"?

God is before time duh

gods are what we will become in 1 billion years.

when science and technology have advanced to an extreme level, we will download our collective consiousness into the fabric of the universe, we will be in all places at all times, we will create all things, we will create new universes, our present form will look to future humanity like the simplest of chemical reactions.

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

gods are what we will become in 1 billion years.

when science and technology have advanced to an extreme level, we will download our collective consiousness into the fabric of the universe, we will be in all places at all times, we will create all things, we will create new universes, our present form will look to future humanity like the simplest of chemical reactions.

As long as we don't nuke ourselves first http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:

im not trying to push my religion on other peple, i just had a religous epiphany( is that the rigth word?) of sorts

think about our universe. our dimensions. our existence. the stars. space. the infinite universe. how did it get there? only answer: god

sorry just had to post something i just had some deep thoughts on this subject.

'religous epiphany' is NOT the right word. First of all, Religious.. Weren't the pharisees religious? I think they had a 'relgious epiphany' to hang the Only True God on a cross. The God they knew, but didn't know.

If you would have said, "Divine revelation of the Holy Spirit." That would have said more and been better.



'relgious epiphany' usually leads to 'false occult'.

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Surely your 'deep' thoughts can't exceed God's own.

Furthermore, the way you used, 'thoughts' says alot too. See, The bible says the mind can not understand the thing of God. The the mind of a man searches the THOUGHTS of a MAN. Whereas, the Spirit, searches the deep and intimate things of God. Paul said, Romans 8: The mind is not subject to the law of God neither indeed can be. He went on to say, the Mind is at enmity against the spirit, and the spirit against the mind. These two are antagonistic one to another.

If you're not getting what you get from the Spirit through The Word of God, then you're probably not getting a true revelation. I mean, your own 'thoughts' can be totaled in Gen 1:, and 1 John 1:1, and Hebrews 1:1-3



I hope you're understanding what I'm saying. If you rely on your own understanding you will be lead in dark paths that you don't want to travel. (Have you heard of Keith Green?) If you rely on God, you'll walk a path full of light. Be careful, friend. Read the Word of God, and let God speak to you.

quote:Originally posted by Source:

As long as we don't nuke ourselves first http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

yeah well, humans overcome adversity. if nukes don't kill us they will make us stronger.

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

gods are what we will become in 1 billion years.

when science and technology have advanced to an extreme level, we will download our collective consiousness into the fabric of the universe, we will be in all places at all times, we will create all things, we will create new universes, our present form will look to future humanity like the simplest of chemical reactions.

Read Isaac Asimov's The Last Question.

quote:Originally posted by mr. benfield:

[B] how did it get there? only answer: god

[B]

I disagree, the only answer: milk.

Go on, prove me wrong; my statement is about as convincing as yours.

-Oh no, Bob is sick, I wonder how he could have become sick.

--It must be super natural demons.

-You're absolutely right.

-Wow Bob got better what did you do?

--Magic

-Yep I figured as much, only magic can cure sickness.



It's quite funny how many people think they are thinking but they are just rearranging their prejudices. If you suggested demons and evil spirits caused the common cold and magical voodoo powers can cure it, many people would laugh at you. Those same people then go about claiming the only possible explanation for the universe is a supernatural entity.

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

'religous epiphany' is NOT the right word. First of all, Religious.. Weren't the pharisees religious? I think they had a 'relgious epiphany' to hang the Only True God on a cross. The God they knew, but didn't know.

If you would have said, "Divine revelation of the Holy Spirit." That would have said more and been better.



'relgious epiphany' usually leads to 'false occult'.

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Surely your 'deep' thoughts can't exceed God's own.

Furthermore, the way you used, 'thoughts' says alot too. See, The bible says the mind can not understand the thing of God. The the mind of a man searches the THOUGHTS of a MAN. Whereas, the Spirit, searches the deep and intimate things of God. Paul said, Romans 8: The mind is not subject to the law of God neither indeed can be. He went on to say, the Mind is at enmity against the spirit, and the spirit against the mind. These two are antagonistic one to another.

If you're not getting what you get from the Spirit through The Word of God, then you're probably not getting a true revelation. I mean, your own 'thoughts' can be totaled in Gen 1:, and 1 John 1:1, and Hebrews 1:1-3



I hope you're understanding what I'm saying. If you rely on your own understanding you will be lead in dark paths that you don't want to travel. (Have you heard of Keith Green?) If you rely on God, you'll walk a path full of light. Be careful, friend. Read the Word of God, and let God speak to you.

LOLGASM

Because "our understanding" of how the world works has led to such terrible things as the Crusades, lightbulbs, treatments for cancer...

THOSE SCIENTISTS SHOULD HAVE PRAYED FOR DIVINE INSPIRATION!

quote:Originally posted by Inti:

LOLGASM

Because "our understanding" of how the world works has led to such terrible things as the Crusades, lightbulbs, treatments for cancer...

THOSE SCIENTISTS SHOULD HAVE PRAYED FOR DIVINE INSPIRATION!



Now, you're putting words in my mouth. I said, just as Paul stated. The minds of men search the things of man. It only understands as a man, and the things of man. The Spirit of God understands, and seeks the mind of God. Thank you, Come again. http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

SO what, I am a god and I SEE HELLZSHEELZ IS A CRACKWHORE.

quote:Originally posted by Deoz:

God is before time duh

You can't be before time by very definition of time and the tenses. I think you meant "outside of time"

Fuck all you jew lovin bastards!

You, Mr. poster, are an idiot

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