Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in this country"

2005/12/01

Compass Direct: Global News from the Frontline

An Iranian convert to Christianity was kidnapped last week from his home in northeastern Iran and stabbed to death, his bleeding body thrown in front of his home a few hours later. Ghorban Tori, 50, was pastoring an independent house church of convert Christians in Gonbad-e-Kavus, a town just east of the Caspian Sea along the Turkmenistan border.

Within hours of the November 22 murder, local secret police arrived at the martyred pastor’s home, searching for Bibles and other banned Christian books in the Farsi language. By the end of the following day, the secret police had also raided the houses of all other known Christian believers in the city.

According to one informed Iranian source, during the past eight days representatives of the Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) have arrested and severely tortured 10 other Christians in several cities, including Tehran. All the detainees have since been released.

One of the arrested Christians was reportedly interrogated about his involvement in relief work after Iran’s deadly Bam earthquake in December 2003. Another working with a legal organization defending human rights was accused of using it as a “cover” for church activities.

In addition, MOIS officials have visited known Christian leaders since Tori’s murder and have instructed them to warn acquaintances in the unofficial, Protestant house fellowships that “the government knows what you are doing, and we will come for you soon.”

A former Muslim of Turkmen descent, Tori had converted to Christianity more than 10 years ago, while in Turkmenistan.

After he returned to his native Iran in 1998, Tori began to share his new Christian faith with friends and relatives. Within two years, a small fellowship of 12 believers was meeting in his home.

But not all welcomed his message; at least one relative attacked Tori, scarring his face. In the past year he received several threats from Islamic extremists vowing to kill him if he did not stop sharing his Christian faith.

Tori is survived by his wife and four children, ages 3 to 23.

He is the fifth Protestant pastor assassinated in Iran by unidentified killers in the past 11 years. Three of the five were former Muslims, under Iranian law subject to the death penalty for having committed apostasy.

Tori’s murder came just days after Iran’s new hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called an open meeting with the nation’s 30 provincial governors. During the session, an Iranian source told Compass, Ahmadinejad declared that the government needed to put a stop to the burgeoning movement of house churches across Iran.

“I will stop Christianity in this country,” Ahmadinejad reportedly vowed.

“This was apparently a green light from the president of Iran to go out and start killing Christians,” the source said.

Slurring Non-Muslims

Last week a Zoroastrian representative in the Iranian Parliament protested a slur against non-Muslims on November 20 by a top aide to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

According to the government-run Entekhaab website, in a public speech Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati told youthful Basijis (members of a volunteer militia formed to enforce strict Islamic codes) preparing to join suicide missions that “non-Muslims are sinful animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption.” Jannati, who is secretary general of the powerful Guardian Council, is known to be a mentor and close advisor to Ahmadinejad.

Iranian Member of Parliament Kurosh Niknam declared the comment, “an unprecedented insult to religious minorities.”

Over the past month, Ahmadinejad has conducted a broad shake-up within the government establishment, replacing hundreds of governors, ambassadors and senior ministry officials with young and mostly inexperienced Islamists. Yesterday students at Tehran University protested noisily when a religious cleric without even a high school diploma was appointed rector of the nation’s oldest university.

In November, the new director of prisons also transferred a number of political prisoners of conscience into criminal wards with convicted murderers and drug dealers. At least one of these political prisoners has been killed by fellow inmates, sparking the fears of Iranian Christians for the security of Hamid Pourmand, serving a three-year sentence at Tehran’s Evin Prison for refusing to renounce his conversion to Christianity.

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Too bad nobody will give a damn because they're Christians.

If it was Muslims this was happening to in a Christian country, there would be an ungodly massive uproar.

His country, his rules.

What's the problem?

quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

His country, his rules.

What's the problem?

See what I mean?

What if we started rounding up Hindus and exterminating them? You'd be fine with that?

Our country, our rules. Right?

I hate people.

Another peice of christian scum annihillated!

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

See what I mean?

What if we started rounding up Hindus and exterminating them? You'd be fine with that?

Our country, our rules. Right?

He chose to go back to an ultra right wing Islamist state and preach Christianity in the full knowledge that he would be depised and possibly be killed(and if he didn't, esp. as a native Iranian, then he was a fool). It's not as if the fundamentalist government suddenly decided it didn't like Christian/Western ideals and started killing them overnight.

And those who chose to follow him did so knowing the consequences.

If America did decide on a similar course of action against non-Christians, whilst I wouldn't approve of the policy I wouldn't start telling a democratically elected power what it can and can't do within it's own borders, unless its actions directly effect me or my country.

You clearly don't agree with this viewpoint, but what do you suggest is done about it?

Fuck a bunch of Christian's anyways.

While I agree that it was stupid to go back to Iran, this man definatley didn't deserve to die(this has nothing to do with me being Christian). You cant just go of killing other religions because you dont agree with them. This is just like a white man going to an African country only to be beaten and tortured all because he is white.

See this is bullshit example of how the world works. A Muslim country executes and tortures Christians because they don't believe in what they believe, but if this same thing happend in America the whole fucking world would be up in arms. "Damm those racists American bastards" they would shout, burning American flags. Yet just because it happend in some shithole country nobody gives a shit.

Fucking Iranians piss me off http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)

[This message has been edited by Ares (edited 12-08-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by Ares:

While I agree that it was stupid to go back to Iran, this man definatley didn't deserve to die(this has nothing to do with me being Christian). You cant just go of killing other religions because you dont agree with them. This is just like a white man going to an African country only to be beaten and tortured all because he is white.

**Now back to "The Crusaders" on, the History Channel.**

its a sad deal but there is no way they can just stop christianity in a whole country

its impossible

quote:Originally posted by Ares:

See this is bullshit example of how the world works. A Muslim country executes and tortures Christians because they don't believe in what they believe, but if this same thing happend in America the whole fucking world would be up in arms. "Damm those racists American bastards" they would shout, burning American flags. Yet just because it happend in some shithole country nobody gives a shit.

Fucking Iranians piss me off http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)



This the price you must pay for your (or any western) government wanting to publicly occupy the moral high ground.

quote:Originally posted by Ares:

While I agree that it was stupid to go back to Iran, this man definatley didn't deserve to die(this has nothing to do with me being Christian). You cant just go of killing other religions because you dont agree with them. This is just like a white man going to an African country only to be beaten and tortured all because he is white.

See this is bullshit example of how the world works. A Muslim country executes and tortures Christians because they don't believe in what they believe, but if this same thing happend in America the whole fucking world would be up in arms. "Damm those racists American bastards" they would shout, burning American flags. Yet just because it happend in some shithole country nobody gives a shit.

Fucking Iranians piss me off http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)



The Americans are smarter, they kill us in our own countries.

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

Too bad nobody will give a damn because they're Christians.

If it was Muslims this was happening to in a Christian country, there would be an ungodly massive uproar.

As there should be.

Whos fault is it if no one says anything about it...

So what about the mistreatment of Palestinians in Israel...

Or the mistreatment of the Falun Dafa by the chinkers....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mobius8:



So what about the mistreatment of Palestinians in Israel...[/qyote]

Palestinians blow up Israeli children(and don't get into the Israeli military killing Palestinian children, I'm not trying to argue the circle of violence.)

Point is, that's quite different from just being of a different religion. There are Arab Israelis who are presumably not Jewish.

The solidarity of countries like Iran shit all over the pussyfooting and placating that goes on to minorities in other countries.

At least everybody there can agree on one thing - they hate christians

For people who doubt what I am saying about anti Semitism in the Middle East - People must view this video and understand that the dispute about Israel is not a war of land or geography but anti-semitism of the worst kind but it is now more dangerous than Nazi Germany because it has a religious twist.

This video should shock you and the world to recognize the real problem.

Click here to view the full broadcast.



APRIL, 2005



Walid creates controversy in Philadelphia

The sponsors of the event in Philadelphia where I will speak placed a huge billboard on the main highway 1-95 about two miles from downtown Philly. The Arab apologists of terror are furious and are calling the usual "racist" slurs. Their protests will help us get more media attention and we shall win over people to the side of the truth. We will see how the people of Philadelphia will identify with Israel when I visit Philadelphia.

Congratulations to the sponsors of the event and their courage to stand with me: to show the people of Philadelphia the truth about terrorism and the goodness of Israel and the Jewish people.



Lovers of Justice and Truth

I would like to add my voice to the disgust at the Hague decision on the

security fence.

When six million Jews who were murdered by the Nazis, the world did nothing

and only its own guilt was Israel founded as a haven and rightful home for

the Jewish people.

Europe and the rest of the tyrannical world have again sided with evil and

have replaced the Nazis with there support of the phony Palestinian cause.

Israel's right to self defense is denied not only by the Hague's Court

ruling, but by the UN. The World continues to criticize anything Israel does

to defend its citizens, even in the face of over 20,000 attempted terror

attacks in the last three years. In a short 60 years the world has returned

to the dark age of anti Semitism.

The world allows terror against Israel, even America plays a double

standard when it comes to terror against Israel versus terror against the

USA.

Our President needs to make a public declaration stating America's position

clearly and unequivocally; he needs to state that not only does Israel have

the right to self defense but America encourages and supports Israel in its

fight against terror. The fence is the lesser of two evils and is a

necessary measure considering that waging war in Arab villages and towns

would lead to worse hardship but it is completely justifiable under

International law if no fence were there. The world cannot have it both

ways, either a security fence or all out defensive measures to defeat

terror.

If the Palestinian leadership continues to support terror they cannot

expect Israel to talk peace or to be overly concerned with all the "civil

rights" of Palestinians. When the Palestinian leadership finally and

completely accept Israel's existence and wish to set up a democratic state,

based on equal rights for Jews, Christians, women, free press and all the

values of a western civilized democracy, then and only then can peace be

achieved.

The so called "Israeli occupation" is currently the only real freedom any

Arab has had in any part of the Middle East in the 56 years of Israel's

existence.

- Walid Shoebat

Leader of the Walid Shoebat Foundation, an organization that cries out for Justice for the State of Israel and the Jewish People.



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quote:Originally posted by Ares:

[B]See this is bullshit example of how the world works. A Muslim country executes and tortures Christians because they don't believe in what they believe, but if this same thing happend in America the whole fucking world would be up in arms. "Damm those racists American bastards" they would shout, burning American flags. Yet just because it happend in some shithole country nobody gives a shit.

Yeah, but no one likes Christians.

America is not Israeli's strongman.

Nuff said

^^

How do you figure? You cant honestly tell me like Muslims are liked better then Christians. It all depends on your location

quote:Originally posted by Chaos Deathcult:

Another peice of christian scum annihillated!

haha

quote:Originally posted by suck my dick:

For people who doubt what I am saying about anti Semitism in the Middle East - People must view this video and understand that the dispute about Israel is not a war of land or geography but anti-semitism of the worst kind but it is now more dangerous than Nazi Germany because it has a religious twist.

This video should shock you and the world to recognize the real problem.

Click here to view the full broadcast.



APRIL, 2005



Walid creates controversy in Philadelphia

The sponsors of the event in Philadelphia where I will speak placed a huge billboard on the main highway 1-95 about two miles from downtown Philly. The Arab apologists of terror are furious and are calling the usual "racist" slurs. Their protests will help us get more media attention and we shall win over people to the side of the truth. We will see how the people of Philadelphia will identify with Israel when I visit Philadelphia.

Congratulations to the sponsors of the event and their courage to stand with me: to show the people of Philadelphia the truth about terrorism and the goodness of Israel and the Jewish people.



Lovers of Justice and Truth

I would like to add my voice to the disgust at the Hague decision on the

security fence.

When six million Jews who were murdered by the Nazis, the world did nothing

and only its own guilt was Israel founded as a haven and rightful home for

the Jewish people.

Europe and the rest of the tyrannical world have again sided with evil and

have replaced the Nazis with there support of the phony Palestinian cause.

Israel's right to self defense is denied not only by the Hague's Court

ruling, but by the UN. The World continues to criticize anything Israel does

to defend its citizens, even in the face of over 20,000 attempted terror

attacks in the last three years. In a short 60 years the world has returned

to the dark age of anti Semitism.

The world allows terror against Israel, even America plays a double

standard when it comes to terror against Israel versus terror against the

USA.

Our President needs to make a public declaration stating America's position

clearly and unequivocally; he needs to state that not only does Israel have

the right to self defense but America encourages and supports Israel in its

fight against terror. The fence is the lesser of two evils and is a

necessary measure considering that waging war in Arab villages and towns

would lead to worse hardship but it is completely justifiable under

International law if no fence were there. The world cannot have it both

ways, either a security fence or all out defensive measures to defeat

terror.

If the Palestinian leadership continues to support terror they cannot

expect Israel to talk peace or to be overly concerned with all the "civil

rights" of Palestinians. When the Palestinian leadership finally and

completely accept Israel's existence and wish to set up a democratic state,

based on equal rights for Jews, Christians, women, free press and all the

values of a western civilized democracy, then and only then can peace be

achieved.

The so called "Israeli occupation" is currently the only real freedom any

Arab has had in any part of the Middle East in the 56 years of Israel's

existence.

- Walid Shoebat

Leader of the Walid Shoebat Foundation, an organization that cries out for Justice for the State of Israel and the Jewish People.



http://www.shoebat.com/comments.php?PHPSESSID=c628b200235b622bdcb29bbe0a3 3a64b (http: //www.shoe bat.com/co mments.php ?PHPSESSID =c628b2002 35b622bdcb 29bbe0a33a 64b)



Suck a dick, jewbag.

this topic was about to drop off the end of the last page, so i ressurected it, abit like jesus.

quote:Originally posted by suck my dick:

[B]Iran's President: "I will stop Christianity in this country"

Good man.

hey man u gotta give the new iranian leader some credit for the huge balls he has fucking with the world like this

quote:Originally posted by burymeag:

hey man u gotta give the new iranian leader some credit for the huge balls he has fucking with the world like this

The greatest thing about him is the fact he's always wearing a sports coat.

I'm just waiting for Isreal to hurry up and invade Iran. Because when they do, America are just gonna go in there and finally do what they need to.

quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

His country, his rules.

What's the problem?

So if Bush decided to do things you don't like, "his country, his rules" apply to you. Don't ever speak a word in opposition from now on.

quote:Originally posted by Ares:

While I agree that it was stupid to go back to Iran, this man definatley didn't deserve to die(this has nothing to do with me being Christian). You cant just go of killing other religions because you dont agree with them. This is just like a white man going to an African country only to be beaten and tortured all because he is white.

See this is bullshit example of how the world works. A Muslim country executes and tortures Christians because they don't believe in what they believe, but if this same thing happend in America the whole fucking world would be up in arms. "Damm those racists American bastards" they would shout, burning American flags. Yet just because it happend in some shithole country nobody gives a shit.

Fucking Iranians piss me off http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)



I'm half Iranian myself and I'll tell you one thing. I went to that country, and its fucked up, ITS fucked up. NOT the people. This isnt true of all of them, as that would be a positive generalisation.

You are making a negative generalisation. All generalisations regarding people as a label are stupid. You are stupid. If you're so low that you judge people by the colour of their skin or the behaviour of one person, in reflection to a large group. Then you're just an ignorant fuck.