Islam

Pro's : 72 virgins when you die. Your religion is the only true religion. Women are repressed and easily married and sex0red. Murder okay in the name of god.

Con's : Not very forgiving. Can get your hands/head/balls removed. (delete where applicable). No booze. No pork. Hallal only.

Misc. : Gays an abomination. (good for popularity in conservatives countries, not so good for ancient greece).

Christianity

Pro's : Can get into heaven even if you are a murderer. God is all forgiving. God is all loving. Booze is okay. Okay to murder others in the name of.

Con's : Could be greeted in heaven by murders and rapists. Drugs are bad m'kay. Might be hard to stay out of hell depending on how much a dick god is. Jesus was a fucktard if he had magical powers.

Misc. : If you subscribe to Leviticus, shellfish, pork, gaydom, and 3 somes with your wife and her mother are out aswell as some other balls.



Atheism

Pro's : No hell. No god to judge/smite you. No post life repercussions. When your dead you wont be concious so you wont be arsed about anything with the non existance and all that shit.

Con's : No afterlife. No god to protect you. Not really a religion. No cool stories. No bullshit to comfort you if your life is not good and/or you have a terminal illness.

Norse Pantheon

Pro's : Die a hero and live for ever boozing, fucking and fighting. Gods liked to fight. Cool gods and creatures. Won't waste your life worshipping aload of superstitious fiction.

Con's : If you dont die in a fight you're going to hell. You will probably be the only person to believe in it. If you don't like fighting you are fucked whether you live a good life or not. When not worshipping superstitious bullshit may find your life is shit.



Feel free to ad other religions. I reckon it is a close toss up between Islam and Christianity. Islam is quite a bit more conservative than christianity but the way global opinion is going now it could become alot more popular. I would like to say atheism will eventually prevail but we still have lottery tickets, celebrity magazines and the simple life so the future of humanity is not looking bright.

Since when is Atheism a religion?

This is elite. I'm a gunna add a religion.

*thinks of something cool*

I know, Sikhism!

Sikhism

Pros: You get to carry a sword around. Big beards and turbans are totally rad. You can slave whip girls with your long hair/turban. There are some Sikh orders out there that have monks that know how to fight with sabres and scythes better than good ole Darth Vader. Oh, almost forgot, there is no Heaven or Hell, just the traditional Hindu/Buddhist idea of Karma and Reincarnation. You do good, you get to become something better.

Cons: They got screwed over by the Hindus of India when the Sikhs in their main temple got massacred. Also, considering that there is Karma, you could become a flower after you die to be ripped apart at your waist (i.e. stem) by some little girl.

Misc: No priests, only one head called the Guru. The Guru supposedly has all knowledge.

they might nt be religons but...

considering what happened to the Romans, the China Dynasty and the South American Natives...



i'd say Mormanism is the way to go. Slow and steady wins the race!

quote:Originally posted by Lou Reed:

they might nt be religons but...

considering what happened to the Romans, the China Dynasty and the South American Natives...



i'd say Mormanism is the way to go. Slow and steady wins the race!



Mormons claim to be Christian.

bump

quote:Originally posted by Aseren:

Since when is Atheism a religion?

quote:Originally posted by Atomical:

No it wouldn't because atheism is not a religion.

It sure as hell is !!!

Atheism: 1A. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. 1B. The doctrine that there is no God or gods. 2. Godlessness; immorality.

Religion: A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

(I answered this in another thread, so I thought I'd repost for you, Aseren)

are we gonna have to go over this every time Digital? atheism is not a religion, it lacks any moral guide, any holy text, it's not even a cause pursued with devotion. PS your dictionary is shitty, atheism is not fucking immorality.





[This message has been edited by Fundokiller (edited 02-12-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by Fundokiller:

are we gonna have to go over this every time alex? atheism is not a religion, it lacks any moral guide, any holy text, it's not even a cause pursued with devotion. PS your dictionary is shitty, atheism is not fucking immorality.





What do you expect from a Christian dictionary?

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It sure as hell is !!!

Atheism: 1A. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. 1B. The doctrine that there is no God or gods. 2. Godlessness; immorality.

Religion: A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

(I answered this in another thread, so I thought I'd repost for you, Aseren)

And I answered that in another thread as well.

1. Your definition is terrible. It is severly broad to the point of self-refutation. By your defintion of "religion", 'lack of religion' would be a religion as well, which is completely contradictory. It violates the law of non-contradiction, and thus is completely illogical. As such, it can safely be thrown away as a ridiculous definition.

Furthermore, if we take your definition of religion as valid, that would then mean that disbelief in anything is entails a religion as well. Disbeliving in unicorns would be a religion, disbelieving in UFO or ghosts would be a religion! This is obviously not how "religion" is taken to mean, thus again, your definition is a terrible one.



2. Your definition of "atheism" is also lacking. This is clearly seen, as Fundokiller said, when it claims that atheism is synonimous with immorality, which is false. Atheists do in fact posses morality, though a morality not inspired by a god.

Moreover, within that definition, the most prevalent psoition of atheists ("lack of belief in a deity") is not included. Thus, even if we were to take your definition of atheism as valid, that definition would not apply to the majority of atheist, thus rendering the point trivial at best.

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

And I answered that in another thread as well.

1. Your definition is terrible. It is severly broad to the point of self-refutation. By your defintion of "religion", 'lack of religion' would be a religion as well, which is completely contradictory. It violates the law of non-contradiction, and thus is completely illogical. As such, it can safely be thrown away as a ridiculous definition.

Furthermore, if we take your definition of religion as valid, that would then mean that disbelief in anything is entails a religion as well. Disbeliving in unicorns would be a religion, disbelieving in UFO or ghosts would be a religion! This is obviously not how "religion" is taken to mean, thus again, your definition is a terrible one.



2. Your definition of "atheism" is also lacking. This is clearly seen, as Fundokiller said, when it claims that atheism is synonimous with immorality, which is false. Atheists do in fact posses morality, though a morality not inspired by a god.

Moreover, within that definition, the most prevalent psoition of atheists ("lack of belief in a deity") is not included. Thus, even if we were to take your definition of atheism as valid, that definition would not apply to the majority of atheist, thus rendering the point trivial at best.

You can always trust the lefties for the most intelligent posts.

quote:Originally posted by Encrypted Soldier:

This is elite. I'm a gunna add a religion.

*thinks of something cool*

I know, Sikhism!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhs

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

And I answered that in another thread as well.

1. Your definition is terrible. It is severly broad to the point of self-refutation. By your defintion of "religion", 'lack of religion' would be a religion as well, which is completely contradictory. It violates the law of non-contradiction, and thus is completely illogical. As such, it can safely be thrown away as a ridiculous definition.

Furthermore, if we take your definition of religion as valid, that would then mean that disbelief in anything is entails a religion as well. Disbeliving in unicorns would be a religion, disbelieving in UFO or ghosts would be a religion! This is obviously not how "religion" is taken to mean, thus again, your definition is a terrible one.



2. Your definition of "atheism" is also lacking. This is clearly seen, as Fundokiller said, when it claims that atheism is synonimous with immorality, which is false. Atheists do in fact posses morality, though a morality not inspired by a god.

Moreover, within that definition, the most prevalent psoition of atheists ("lack of belief in a deity") is not included. Thus, even if we were to take your definition of atheism as valid, that definition would not apply to the majority of atheist, thus rendering the point trivial at best.

It hardly matters whether you believe "my" definition is terrible or not, what matters is that the definitions are at least nationally accepted here in America, and that your denial of them doesn't change them.

This is not "my" definition, however, it is the definition given to ALL PEOPLE by Dictionary.com. Just because you don't like what the obvious conclusion of the definitions in conjuction is, doesn't make it wrong, or invalid.

Being that religion is a set of beliefs and principles, based on nothing more than personal opinion, I'd say that the Dictionary's definition of atheism makes it a religion. You can deny that all you want to, and we all know you will, because admitting it forces you to accept the fanatacism that is undeniably tied to ALL religions.

A set of beliefs and principles by which one lives their life is religion. Period. Atheism is not a lack of belief in God, it is the belief that there IS NO GOD. Lack of belief would be better characterized as agnosticism. Atheists do not lack belief, they BELIEVE that THERE IS NO GOD. They CHOOSE to believe this, therefore, it is a religion.

Render it however you'd like. The obvious will remain obvious, no matter how well you think you've "semanticized" it.

quote:Originally posted by Fundokiller:

are we gonna have to go over this every time alex? atheism is not a religion, it lacks any moral guide, any holy text, it's not even a cause pursued with devotion. PS your dictionary is shitty, atheism is not fucking immorality.

Please refrain from using my real name on totse, n00b.

quote:Originally posted by Fundokiller:

atheism is not a religion, it lacks any moral guide...

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

Atheists do in fact posses morality...

It looks like you two have some talking to do.

When you guys decide which definition of atheism YOU consider to be least damaging to your godless cause, let me know.

quote:Originally posted by Encrypted Soldier:

You can always trust the lefties for the most intelligent posts.

Intelligence is not measured by what you agree with, and what you don't.

quote:Originally posted by Encrypted Soldier:

You can always trust the lefties for the most intelligent posts.

Rust brings up a good point. He did say you contradicted yourself. You just critized his intelligence, yet you bring out no specific points. And your previous post did not have a rebuttle to Rust's new points.

1.

1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

-Dictionary.com

In their definition of religion, there was always a supernatural aspect, with the exception of the fourth.

Now, Encrypted Soldier, in your definition of religion, is there a supernatural or spiritulistic aspect?

With respects to the fourth, most atheists don't pursue their lack of belief in a god. That's like trying to get worse at something. Disproving a religion is not a religion, because an atheist doesn't go to an atheistic church, talking about how they don't believe in a god. The only time they would talk about it is to explain their ways to a theist.

I am sorry, but there is no other way to read, "A conscientious devotion to a cause, principle, or activity that is pursued."

Atheism is a conscientious devotion to the DISBELIEF or DENIAL OF EXISTENCE of God. A belief that is pursued by the people I see on this very site, since they spend all their time trying to disprove Christianity.

It is a religion, by definition, because everything ELSE that is a conscientious devotion is considered as such.

Christianity is a conscientious devotion to the belief that there is a God.

Islam is a conscientious devotion to the belief that there is a God (Allah).

Buddhism is a conscientious belief in the teaching of Buddha that life is permeated with suffering caused by desire, that suffering ceases when desire ceases, and that enlightenment obtained through right conduct and wisdom and meditation releases one from desire and suffering and rebirth.

And so on...

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It hardly matters whether you believe "my" definition is terrible or not, what matters is that the definitions are at least nationally accepted here in America, and that your denial of them doesn't change them.

This quite simply wrong. Not only did I never say that my opinion in and of itself mattered in determining if the definition is valid, but that definition is not accepted in the world at all.

People do not say that 'eating shit with zeal' is a religion, though if we follow your atrocious definition, it would be. Nor do people say that the absence of religion is a religion, something which, again, would be a religion under your definition. Nor do we say that christians have many different religions based on all of the diffferent gods they do not believe in (the muslim god, the greek gods, et cetera). To claim that definition is generally accepted anywhere is ridiculous to say the least.

The definitions which are generally accepted, would be the very definitions you conviniently omitted:

"1.

a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

b. personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2.

a. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

b. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader."



quote:

This is not "my" definition, however, it is the definition given to ALL PEOPLE by Dictionary.com. Just because you don't like what the obvious conclusion of the definitions in conjuction is, doesn't make it wrong, or invalid.



1. The definition dictionary.com includes other connotations which you ignored. Only one out of all other definitions, nets us with the contradiction, and makes atheism a "religion", which shows how you've had to dig for a definition which satisfies your inane quest, and just how uncommon in usage that definition is.

2. I never said that "just because I don't like the definition" it isn't valid, why you bring that up is beyond me; I can only conclude you didn't read what I wrote. I said the fact that it is completely illogical, contradictory, broad, and not commonly used, makes the defition invalid.

quote:

Being that religion is a set of beliefs and principles, based on nothing more than personal opinion, I'd say that the Dictionary's definition of atheism makes it a religion. You can deny that all you want to, and we all know you will, because admitting it forces you to accept the fanatacism that is undeniably tied to ALL religions.

The only reason I'm "denying" anything is because both of the definitions you provided are terrible. That's it. If you think my objection is based on any possible "zeal" atheism (or atheists) might have or on atheism being labled as a religion under such a weak defintion, then you're sorely mistaken. I have absolutely no problem with zeal, nor do I have a problem with atheism being labled as a religion if it's under that trivial definition.

My objection is purely based on the worth (lack of it actually) of the definition you gave.

quote:

A set of beliefs and principles by which one lives their life is religion. Period. Atheism is not a lack of belief in God, it is the belief that there IS NO GOD. Lack of belief would be better characterized as agnosticism. Atheists do not lack belief, they BELIEVE that THERE IS NO GOD. They CHOOSE to believe this, therefore, it is a religion.

Wrong. This is a very elementary and ignorant understanding of atheism.

There are two categories of atheism, generally called "weak atheism" and "strong atheism". Weak atheism is a lack of belief in god, and it is the position most atheists hold. Strong atheism is the belief that no god(s) exist(s), which while uncommon among atheists, some do posses that position.

Moreover, I already mentioned this. It is this very problem that makes your ultimate conclusion meaningless since it does not affect the majority of atheists!

quote:

Render it however you'd like. The obvious will remain obvious, no matter how well you think you've "semanticized" it.

Correct. No matter how I "Sematicized" it will be obvious that your definition is self-contradictory, and not in common usage. The replies that you have received exposing just that in this very thread show this clear enough.

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quote:It looks like you two have some talking to do.

When you guys decide which definition of atheism YOU consider to be least damaging to your godless cause, let me know.

I misspoke. Atheism in and of itself has no set of moral rules which is what he meant, yet it can have morality, which is what I meant.

The point stands. The fact that your dictionary source somehow claims atheism is synonymous with immorality shows what a disastrous definition it is.

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quote:Originally posted by Sgt. Lag:

Rust brings up a good point. He did say you contradicted yourself. You just critized his intelligence, yet you bring out no specific points. And your previous post did not have a rebuttle to Rust's new points.

Ok, now I am confused.

YOUR perception of Encrypted Soldier's post was that he was being antagonistic of Rust, whereas my perception was that he was in agreement with Rust.

Encrypted Soldier, can you clarify ?

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quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Ok, now I am confused.

YOUR perception of Encrypted Soldier's post was that he was being antagonistic of Rust, whereas my perception was that he was in agreement with Rust.

Encrypted Soldier, can you clarify ?



I don't know. I kinda jumped in the middle of this, and then skimmed over their posts. I shouldn't have said anything. I was out of my element.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It looks like you two have some talking to do.

When you guys decide which definition of atheism YOU consider to be least damaging to your godless cause, let me know.

1. The disbelief in god carries with it no moral guide whatsoever.

2. the majority of atheists subscribe to the humanistic morality known as utillitarianism.

3. There are atheists that do not subscribe to utillitarianism such as the nihilists or the buddhists.

4. It is the branches of atheism that carry moral guides, not the disbelief in god.

all clear?

quote:Originally posted by Sgt. Lag:

I don't know. I kinda jumped in the middle of this, and then skimmed over their posts. I shouldn't have said anything. I was out of my element.

LOL

Don't worry about it...I would still like to know where Encrypted was coming from, though.

quote:Originally posted by Encrypted Soldier:

Mormons claim to be Christian.

The way I see it, Mormons can't be Christian because Christians aren't Jews. Jews are Jews because their holy text is the old Testament, Christians are CHristians because they added on to that, and Mormons are Mormons because they added on to that. You follow?

lol. Your all so funny.

I like Nihilism.

I bet non of you bothered to actually look up dictionary.coms meaning of Atheism.

#

1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

Nowere there does it say that it is a religion or such, but i dont really care about that argument. I was just wondering what made dictionary.coms definition of religion correct.

quote:Originally posted by Fai1safe:

lol. Your all so funny.

I like Nihilism.

I bet non of you bothered to actually look up dictionary.coms meaning of Atheism.

#

1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

Nowere there does it say that it is a religion or such, but i dont really care about that argument. I was just wondering what made dictionary.coms definition of religion correct.

Only because it doesn't say that Atheism is a religion, doesn't mean that Atheism isn't a religion.

Dictionary.com doesn't say Christianity is a religion until the fourth definition.

what about Buddhism, taoism, and of course, Scientology and Wicca! http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

Whoa! Talk about a train wreck of a thread!

RASTAFARIANISM

Pros: you get to smoke ample amounts of ganja. You never have to comb your hair again.

Cons: You have to deal with a bunch of rich, white kids thinking they're Rastas b/c they smoke weed.

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quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:



Christianity is a conscientious devotion to the belief that there is a God.

Islam is a conscientious devotion to the belief that there is a God (Allah).



Same thing. Is "Dieu" another one deity? "Dios"? "Elohim"? Is there an English God?

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Please refrain from using my real name on totse, n00b.

Please refrain from using the word n00b, alex.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:



A set of beliefs and principles by which one lives their life is religion. Period. Atheism is not a lack of belief in God, it is the belief that there IS NO GOD. Lack of belief would be better characterized as agnosticism. Atheists do not lack belief, they BELIEVE that THERE IS NO GOD. They CHOOSE to believe this, therefore, it is a religion.



They don't actively believe that there is no God in the way others believe that there is a God. If you were to believe that there isn't a single china teapot orbiting the edge of our galaxy would that make you religious? Of course not.

Jihad!

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http://www.fomi.nu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1627

In the fullest and most accurate sense of the word atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods. The "A" in atheism means "without". Someone who is an atheist is without theism. Sometimes dictionaries will have a second entry for the more narrow definition of atheism as the belief that gods do not exist. However, in the fullest sense of the word, one must not even have knowledge of the very concept of a god to be considered an atheist.

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quote:Originally posted by uncopyrightable:

They don't actively believe that there is no God in the way others believe that there is a God. If you were to believe that there isn't a single china teapot orbiting the edge of our galaxy would that make you religious? Of course not.





Lol i like that view.

This really isn't a dominant religion, but I'll post it anyway.

Discordia

Pro's: You belive in a goddess, you can be a pope, your bible is only about 60 pages long, you don't have any rules, you don't have to belive anything is true, people will expect you to act weird, not much bad will happen to you even if you do bad stuff.

Con's: If you're a big fan of order, you want a firm belief system and you prefer being serious most of the time, it probably isn't something for you.



Hail Eris! All hail discordia!

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

It hardly matters whether you believe "my" definition is terrible or not, what matters is that the definitions are at least nationally accepted here in America, and that your denial of them doesn't change them.

This is not "my" definition, however, it is the definition given to ALL PEOPLE by Dictionary.com. Just because you don't like what the obvious conclusion of the definitions in conjuction is, doesn't make it wrong, or invalid.

Being that religion is a set of beliefs and principles, based on nothing more than personal opinion, I'd say that the Dictionary's definition of atheism makes it a religion. You can deny that all you want to, and we all know you will, because admitting it forces you to accept the fanatacism that is undeniably tied to ALL religions.

A set of beliefs and principles by which one lives their life is religion. Period. Atheism is not a lack of belief in God, it is the belief that there IS NO GOD. Lack of belief would be better characterized as agnosticism. Atheists do not lack belief, they BELIEVE that THERE IS NO GOD. They CHOOSE to believe this, therefore, it is a religion.

Render it however you'd like. The obvious will remain obvious, no matter how well you think you've "semanticized" it.



I knew there was something we could agree on, ds, even if it's not our opinions on abortion.

quote:Originally posted by Fundokiller:

1. The disbelief in god carries with it no moral guide whatsoever.

2. the majority of atheists subscribe to the humanistic morality known as utillitarianism.

3. There are atheists that do not subscribe to utillitarianism such as the nihilists or the buddhists.

4. It is the branches of atheism that carry moral guides, not the disbelief in god.

all clear?

Buddhism is a religion, started by Siddharta Guatama about 2500 years ago. Atheism is slightly compatible with some elements of Buddhism but an atheist who follows some Buddhist practices is not an Buddhist.

quote:Originally posted by AngrySquirrel:

Same thing. Is "Dieu" another one deity? "Dios"? "Elohim"? Is there an English God?

There is no one english god only that imported middle eastern crap and the pantheon of the old Gods. Belenos is the most important deity in the old British religion, being the sun god he controlled our harvest and when we had big massive drunken feasts and stuff. His day was of course Beltane in which all the tribe would gather have a big feast and jump over fires and shit. If anyone is thinking about celebrating it, it's the 1st of May, or more traditionally the 5th.

lol, the entire thread has turned into a debate over semantics....wtf

quote:Originally posted by coolwestman:



I knew there was something we could agree on, ds, even if it's not our opinions on abortion.

Well, here's a nifty idea....people that do not agree on certain subjects can be friends. It's called "maturity".

Gorbechav showed up at Reagan's funeral...what does THAT tell you ? http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

If you ever wanna hang out with us in chat, IM me at desired hush (AIM) or at desired.hush@hotmail.com (MSN).

quote:Originally posted by Perspicacious:

However, in the fullest sense of the word, one must not even have knowledge of the very concept of a god to be considered an atheist.

EXACTLY !!!

Finally, someone who gets it.

quote:Originally posted by uncopyrightable:

They don't actively believe that there is no God in the way others believe that there is a God. If you were to believe that there isn't a single china teapot orbiting the edge of our galaxy would that make you religious? Of course not.

Listen, belief in no God requires faith, because there is no proof solidifying this belief.

Likewise, Science should also be considered a religion, because it requires a devotion to belief in many things that have not yet been proven.

Belief without proof is faith....Christian faith is the same as Atheistic faith. Both BELIEVE something, without complete evidence. Christians have the Bible, and Atheists have Science. Neither are 100% definitive, so both require a degree of faith.

My belief that there isn't a single china teapot orbiting the edge of our galaxy is an irrelevant comparison, since I do not post thread after thread on forums trying to disprove it. I don't even think about it.

This is where the words "zeal" and the phrase "conscientious devotion" come in to play.

It is the devotion to the belief that makes it religious.

I could care less about china pots...atheists tend to VEHEMENTLY care about refuting the existence of God (not ALL of them, but most I have encountered).

Therein lies the devotion to the cause, therefore IT IS A RELIGION !

quote:Originally posted by AngrySquirrel:

Same thing. Is "Dieu" another one deity? "Dios"? "Elohim"? Is there an English God?

Allah and God are not the same. Allah is not the God of Isaac, Abraham and Jacob.

Elohim, Adonai, Yahweh, etc. etc. etc. are all the same God.

Unless I am not understanding your question...

Alex my dear, suck my cockness.

Shifting the burden of proof on the skeptic Digital. I thought you knew better.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Well, here's a nifty idea....people that do not agree on certain subjects can be friends. It's called "maturity".

Gorbechav showed up at Reagan's funeral...what does THAT tell you ? http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

If you ever wanna hang out with us in chat, IM me at desired hush (AIM) or at desired.hush@hotmail.com (MSN).



Could I take you up on that offer? Who else is usually there? (MSN)

Yeah, man. Anyone that wants to participate is welcome.

My MSN is not a room. The point is for you to IM me first, and then I will tell you how to get into our channel on IRC.

quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:

Alex my dear, suck my cockness.

No thanks, Nikolai.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

No thanks, Nikolai.

That's not my name, you dumb bitch. I ain't Russian.

Lying becomes you.

Most Serbian surnames have the surname suffix -ić (IPA: /itj/, Cyrillic: -ић http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif). This is often transcribed as -ic. In history, Serbian names have often been transcribed with a phonetic ending, -ich or -itch. This form is often associated with Serbs from before the early 20th century: hence Milutin Milanković is usually referred to, for historical reasons, as Milutin Milankovitch.

The -ić suffix is a Slavic diminutive, originally functioning to create patronymics. Thus the surname Petrić signifies little Petar, as does, for example, a common prefix Mac ("son of") in Scottish and Fitz in Irish names. It is estimated that some two thirds of all Serbian surnames end in -ić but that some 80% of Serbs carry such a surname with many common names being spread out among tens and even hundreds of non-related extended families.

Other common surname suffixes are -ov or -in which is the Slavic possessive case suffix, thus Nikola's son becomes Nikolin, Petar's son Petrov, and Jovan's son Jovanov. The two suffixes are often combined.

The most common surnames are Nikolić, Petrović, Jovanović. Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs)

Nikola, then ? http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

Direct copy/pasting of an article without citing source is a bannable offense on totse.

quote:Pro's : 72 virgins when you die. No. quote: Your religion is the only true religion. Ofcourse! quote: Women are repressed and easily married and sex0red. Not neccessarily true. quote:Murder okay in the name of god. Yes.

quote:Con's : Not very forgiving. Allah is, under certain circumstances. quote: Can get your hands/head/balls removed. Not neccessarily. quote:No booze. There are Christians who don't drink, and there are Muslims who do, you are generalizing. quote:No pork. Hallal only. [/quote[ Same with the above.

[quote]Misc. : Gays an abomination. (good for popularity in conservatives countries, not so good for ancient greece).

Ofcourse.

You over-generalize and don't read into the actual topics enough.



[This message has been edited by ShqipTAR (edited 02-22-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:

Direct copy/pasting of an article without citing source is a bannable offense on totse.

The source is at the bottom, Schtupit. http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)