I haven't looked that far in to Mormonism, but from what I can see it basically teaches that Americans are superior to everyone else.

Seems a bit Cultish to me.

Is it?

hmm it doesnt really say anything like that

but it DOES say that america is 'the promised land'

America in 200 years became the most powerful country in the history of the planet, has insane resources and massive quantities of arable land so this is quite easily justified

I personally consider Mormonism to be a cult. I think the reasons for this are obvious...

Well alot of people think Mormonism is a cult or they mistake them as the Amish I've heard alot of people say pretty funny things about them. Mormonism isnt a cult they are christains just like anyone else. They beleive in the same god as everyone else they live by the Bible just like christains and chatholics do. People also call them devil worshippers but if ever drive by a Mormon church you'll see "The Church of Jesus Christ of Later day saints" in the front...... How can they be devil worshippers?

smoketheweed, I'm Mormon and I hate how people just criticize my religion. We've all grown up in different religions and have our own set of opipions and thoughts about others its life. Everyone is different and I would suggest going to the source and finding someone who is mormon like and and ask them a series of questions. You might change your mind.

No Mormonism doesnt teach people that they are better then everyone else. It teaches people you can be better then everyone else by choosing the right with means keeping a clean life.......no drugs or alcohol and no sex or any of that crap before merriage.

I'm 15 and I've grown up into the Mormon religion. And its helped me out with my life and has showed me I can have fun and live a clean happy life without drugs.



If your looking for a cult........try scientology =]

Cult is a tough term. I don't think i'd go so far as to call it a cult.

But it is a false religion.

Proof Here:

http://www.carm.org/lds/ldspapyri.htm

I live in Mormon country.......Utah. They arent really cult like but most of them are so damn devout you cant even talk sense to them. Its basicly christianity but as ignorant as you can get, mixed with the thought that anything thats not church sanctioned is evil. In my book they are just one step above jahova's witnesses.

XIPE.....if your mormon get of this devilish thing "they" call the internet and get back in your hole of ignorance.

At some level, i wonder if LDS "Corporate" is making a concerted effort to hide how different Mormonism really is from Protestant Christianity.

Mormons use similar language as Christians, and even claim Jesus as a praise-worthy figure. However, the faith really has little to do with Christianity.

The church of Latter-Day Saints believe God to be a deity who used to be a man, but became a god because he lived a good life. And any of us can also become gods if we live our lives the right way.

That's just one of many ways Mormonism and Christianity are completely different and incompatible.

They wear magical undies. Nuff Said.

quote:Originally posted by XIPE:

no drugs or alcohol and no sex



Your religion is horrible.

quote:Originally posted by TheMessiahComplex:

Your religion is horrible.

can't even have caffeine.

Mormons believe that:

1. Holy underwear is to be worn in the Tabernacle.

2. That Jesus was a good man that attained godhood.

3. That we all achieve godhood, only if you convert to Mormonism.

4. When you die, after conversion, that you inherit your own planet and become god of that planet.

5. Jesus and Satan were brothers.

6. That the NT is distorted and not as trustworthy as the book Mormon, even though they quote from the NT all the time.

7. That you can pray for deceased relatives, and intercede on their behalf so they can inherit a planet.

Though its loosely affiliated with Christian belief, it is not compatible. Not even close. Yes, its cultish and sectarian.

quote:Originally posted by grandsmoker420:

XIPE.....if your mormon get of this devilish thing "they" call the internet and get back in your hole of ignorance."They" don't say that the internet is devilish. "They" say that the internet is good, however it can be used to spread evil as well. I don't see how you can deny that.

Hyroglyphx, most of what you said was extremely distorted. The "holy underwear" (also called garments) is a symbol, much like the cross that many Christians wear. It has meaning and is sacred, however there is nothing "magical" about it.

Jesus and Satan were brothers. Satan chose the path opposite of what God wanted, and was thus cast out of Heaven along with a host of angels that followed him. They became the sons of perdition.

I'm not even going to go through the rest of what you said, go get some real information on the Church then come back.

Oh, and we can have caffeine, though it is recommended against because it is addicting. Used in moderation there is nothing wrong with it though.

Also, there is no profit for anyone within the church to gain for getting more members. Every position held within the church is unpaid and voluntary. If other Christian churches tried that they'd fall apart.

I am also mormon, except I'm a convert, and therefore have a different perspective on the religion and the perceptions thereof.

No less than 2 years ago I would have told you the same that some of you believe that the church is a "cult" and that it's a negative influence. I'm quite a jaunt away from mormon country, so the only mormons I knew were quite inactive. I'm not particularly proud of my attitude or uninformed perceptions those days.

At the very least, the church teaches people to be good, moral people and does a far better job of it than any other church I know of. I've spoken to more than my fair share of nonmembers, both rational and irrational, and I have yet to hear one of them come up with a commandment within contemporary christianity which I do not follow. Usually however, I can find one or two that they don't.

Bottom line: Mormonism works.

quote:Originally posted by Jaryohem063:

I am also mormon, except I'm a convert, and therefore have a different perspective on the religion and the perceptions thereof.

No less than 2 years ago I would have told you the same that some of you believe that the church is a "cult" and that it's a negative influence. I'm quite a jaunt away from mormon country, so the only mormons I knew were quite inactive. I'm not particularly proud of my attitude or uninformed perceptions those days.

At the very least, the church teaches people to be good, moral people and does a far better job of it than any other church I know of. I've spoken to more than my fair share of nonmembers, both rational and irrational, and I have yet to hear one of them come up with a commandment within contemporary christianity which I do not follow. Usually however, I can find one or two that they don't.

Bottom line: Mormonism works.

That's a very cynical view of religion you have.

"Mormonism works", as if that proves its truth or worth.

Mormonism "works" because the head of every household is a "priest", and kids have an unfair amount of scrutiny on them from the entire church community. And that's from my experience in Pennsylvania. I can't imagine what its like in Utah.

By your definition, Amish works.

Joseph Smith is a proven fraud. Without him, there would be no church of latter-day saints. You can finish the rest.



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quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

Though its loosely affiliated with Christian belief, it is not compatible. Not even close. Yes, its cultish and sectarian.

You can say that about every other religion. It's funny how things work. Actually wait, it's not funny at all. Everyone will think that their religion is the right one, and everyone has the right god, prophet, whatever. It's human nature to be that way. Just like some of you once argued that "my dad could kick your dad's ass".

It's yours, and you will never want someone to tell you that it's wrong. You will keep defending your opinion even if you know/might be aware of that it's not the right one. You simply can not allow yourself to be wrong. That's why I choose not to be involved with any of this religious stuff.



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quote:Originally posted by ohhi:

You can say that about every other religion. It's funny how things work. Actually wait, it's not funny at all. Everyone will think that their religion is the right one, and everyone has the right god, prophet, whatever. It's human nature to be that way. Just like some of you once argued that "my dad could kick your dad's ass".

It's yours, and you will never want someone to tell you that it's wrong. You will keep defending your opinion even if you know/might be aware of that it's not the right one. You simply can not allow yourself to be wrong. That's why I choose not to be involved with any of this religious stuff.



Your comments are not very relevant. The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spends a lot of effort trying to make people think its just another sect of christianity.

But as the poster rightly said, they are not compatible.

that was just a "side note". And I used to attend that church, among many others.

Almost every major religion on the planet preaches the renounciation of other religions. Mormonism is no exception. Remember, Mormons have only been around for 200 years or something. This is why they are so devout. Basically, they think that since they're prophet was an "actual" person (Joseph Smith), who was documented, he must have been preaching the truth.

RANTING EDIT: Personally, I think Mormons are a bunch of polygamist faggots that think they're shit doesn't stink. They fuck they're relatives and have 20 children, all retarded. They all have eight wives and chop wood.

quote:Originally posted by diehard993:

Almost every major religion on the planet preaches the renounciation of other religions. Mormonism is no exception. Remember, Mormons have only been around for 200 years or something. This is why they are so devout. Basically, they think that since they're prophet was an "actual" person (Joseph Smith), who was documented, he must have been preaching the truth.

RANTING EDIT: Personally, I think Mormons are a bunch of polygamist faggots that think they're shit doesn't stink. They fuck they're relatives and have 20 children, all retarded. They all have eight wives and chop wood.



are you sure you wanted to post that last bit? Also, i think you're partially confusing Mennonites with Mormons. Not that i think Mennonites are "faggots".

quote:Originally posted by diehard993:

RANTING EDIT: Personally, I think Mormons are a bunch of polygamist faggots that think they're shit doesn't stink. They fuck they're relatives and have 20 children, all retarded. They all have eight wives and chop wood.That is some of the most ignorant BS I've ever heard.

Mormonism does work, but so do most all christian based religions if you follow them correctly though. From what I know of it, I'm quite surprised people actually believe what the book of Mormon says. Granted I am taking this subject subjectively but when there is that much evidence weighed upon something, its quite surprising that people don't realize that Joseph Smith might not have been so truthful. I am somewhat in Mormon country and personally I don't have a problem with them. They may not be very bright (in all honesty I have only seen one intelligent one to date, and she didn't seem to have any opinion on the matter) but at least they aren't jackasses like most idiots, they fall into a sort of "fool" category where they hold on to their ideals because thats all they have to work with. Yes, they are pleasant individuals though.

The only thing I'm gunna say: 'And it came to pass...'

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/topics/aictp.html

The author of the Book of Mormon tried hard to make it sound like the King James Bible. Way too hard, in fact. Here's what Mark Twain said about it:

Wherever he found his speech growing too modern -- which was about every sentence or two -- he ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as "exceeding sore," "and it came to pass," etc., and made things satisfactory again. 'And it came to pass' was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet.



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