I was reading some stuff, some people don't believe there are contradictions in the bible. Ya right. I don't have a problem with chirstianity just people that still insist what is truth when it has been proven otherwise.

1. The vowels in king solomon's name add up to 666. ("O" is the 15th letter in the alaphabet. add 1+5 3 times, 666)

2. the very center of the bible is Psalms 117 in my old 1800's bible this verse has 33 words, the exact years that jesus lived and also the generations from adam to david. Most modern versions are edited the common things I have seen have 29 words, 32 word, or 30 words.

3. There is a whole shitload I don't remeber that relates to holy numbers and crap. Search "satanic doctorines" on google and go to the first site the have tons of info on satanism and 666 origins. I'm not satanist, i'm buddhist infact but I find all this stuff neat ^^. c ya'll

-kenshin

hm, very entresting, i have heard of many accounts of the satanic number, and even of many Pagan holiday dates in the bible in the verses that were putting them down that christians stole from us, but never took the time to see if they were accurate...

The vowels in king solomon's name add up to 666. ("O" is the 15th letter in the alaphabet. add 1+5 3 times, 666)



thats ridiculous, you can do that with anything! For example, king davids name adds up to 1337 because d is the fourth letter of the alphabet and 1+3=4, and he has three Ds in his name and 3x4=12 he has 2 letter that arent D so 12-2=10 3+7=10 david=1337

now that makes as much sense as what you wrote

So you don't beleive in coincedence? But you beleive in evolution? (and mabey they arn't coincedences, but the way they get names to add up to numbers is a totaly different system, for instence i know that Adolf Hitler's name added up to 666)

coincidence has nothing to do with evolution, you only hink this because your understanding of evolution is poor. go and learn something you fucking retard, and no, reading a bit of wikipedia is not learning.

I can write a book with little coincidences like that. If that's the best a supernatural being can do, I am not impressed.

True bible facts,

1) The writers didn't speak english, but Hebrew, any supposedly amazing properties of names in english mean little.

2) The original writings didn't have verses or chapters, they were added around the 14th century.

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

coincidence has nothing to do with evolution, you only hink this because your understanding of evolution is poor. go and learn something you fucking retard, and no, reading a bit of wikipedia is not learning.

Im not talking about the adaption and mutations (which 99.9% of the time are negative), but rather how if the eart were but a few thousand miles closer to the sun we would burn, and a few thousand further back, and we would freeze. If thats not a coincedence then it was planned by a Creator right?

quote:Originally posted by Dragonsthrone:

Im not talking about the adaption and mutations (which 99.9% of the time are negative), but rather how if the eart were but a few thousand miles closer to the sun we would burn, and a few thousand further back, and we would freeze. If thats not a coincedence then it was planned by a Creator right?

Of course it is coincidence. No matter how incorrect your assertion may be, it still makes no sense for your argument. There are probably more than a few billion planets in our galaxy alone, the fact that ONE is in this position doesn't mean a thing.

Besides, what tf does the position of the earth have to do with evolution?

Seriously, read a science book or at least wait to finish high school before posting.

Im saying that the name/number thing in many cases could be a coincidence, and if he believes in evolution, then you have to beleive in coincidences.

Facts about the Bible (and society):

It contains more violence than a M videogame and more "begetting" than a porno.

It was originally in Hebrew, then Latin, then English. Hebrew is now a dead language. Latin is a language that I'm currently learning and its occurence in modern grammar is more common than you probably think. English is a mixture of the eastern non oriental languages. All translations were done by man. The English version was ordered into existence by a English King. Most Christians today trust the King James version of the Bible, even though they think monarchies suck and democracy rules because a king can do anything he wants, to hell with the people while in a democracy... nevermind.

The Bible condones slavery. God apparently even seemed to support the slavery of the Jews as a means to drill into there heads his almighty power and ability to free the race, bring pursecution upon them, free them some more, exterminate them, then hook em up with high paying jobs in hollywood and shit here in the devil county meanwhile their sill in the frying pan in their homeland. The Bible even gives instruction on proper treatment of the ladies that a soldier may claim as property during war. Maybe our horny guys raping women in the middle east aren't as bad as we've all made out, just a little rude.

The Bible states that it is up to mankind to pretty much be the caretaker of this planet he gave us and the other life forms he placed upon it for the purpose of our own well being, not to mention I'm sure God put a lot of thought and love into the creation of every grizzly bear, wolf, pot plant, cocain plant, dodo, whale, bison, mushroom, and bald eagle. Either that or science saw fit for these things to evolve. Either way, this here country of Christians claming this nation to be the greatest in the Ways of God, the most advanced in the Ways of Science, love the politicians, judges, police, and others of their "though shalt do in the name of the almighty ME" ilk. Like they have more authority than either Force.

The battle of Megiddo. Thats in the middle east right? Where are we fighting a war now? And whose will do Bush and Laden claim to be subject to? And how many false prophets do we see every damn day on TV here, in terrorist training camps there, and preisthoods everywh...ok just here. No its not an American Christian problem, its a GAY problem. yea right.

Really I beleive in God because he helped me out big time twice in a day when I sincerely asked him to at I time I didn't believe in him. I just think about 3 language translations ago and countless generations of people loving, respecting, and bowing their raped lives over to thier leaders we've lost about 80 percent of God's original ministry to us through prophets and all we are left with is the essentials of he loves us, we betrayed him, we owe him more than we can ever give but hes ok with us doing really honestly all we can to respect his creation and each other therein. And we are still betraying him.

Thats just the tip of my iceberg from me, I'm tired of probing the depths of my study on this topic.



[This message has been edited by TalcumPowder (edited 03-21-2006).]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kenshin_kid:

1. The vowels in king solomon's name add up to 666. ("O" is the 15th letter in the alaphabet. add 1+5 3 times, 666)

Okay, what is that supposed to mean?

2. the very center of the bible is Psalms 117 in my old 1800's bible this verse has 33 words, the exact years that jesus lived and also the generations from adam to david. Most modern versions are edited the common things I have seen have 29 words, 32 word, or 30 words.

Okay, what is that supposed to mean?

3. There is a whole shitload I don't remeber that relates to holy numbers and crap. Search "satanic doctorines" on google and go to the first site the have tons of info on satanism and 666 origins. I'm not satanist, i'm buddhist infact but I find all this stuff neat ^^. c ya'll

Okay, what is that supposed to mean?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TalcumPowder:

Facts about the Bible (and society):

[b] Hebrew is now a dead language.

Excuse me???? Hebrew is a dead language? Um, tell that to the millions of Jews that speak Hebrew. I think you are thinking of Latin.

quote:Originally posted by Dragonsthrone:

Im not talking about the adaption and mutations (which 99.9% of the time are negative), but rather how if the eart were but a few thousand miles closer to the sun we would burn, and a few thousand further back, and we would freeze. If thats not a coincedence then it was planned by a Creator right?

Wrong, the majority of mutations are neutral. Please pick up a science book.

I assume you believe every puddle is created by God because the water seems to fit it so perfectly (to steal from Douglas Adams). If the earth wasn't in the right place life wouldn't have formed on it and we wouldn't be having this discussion about earth. The fact that life only forms on planets suitable isn't that amazing.

That's like saying the fact I can role a normal die millions of times and yet still not get a 7 is an amazing act of God.

quote:Originally posted by TalcumPowder:

Facts about the Bible (and society):

It was originally in Hebrew, then Latin, then English.

Ahem, the New Testament was originally written in Greek. Maybe you should probe harder into those "depths"?

quote:Originally posted by kenshin_kid:

1. The vowels in king solomon's name add up to 666. ("O" is the 15th letter in the alaphabet. add 1+5 3 times, 666)Good job reading English. Problem is, neither the Christian New Testament nor the Jewish Bible are written in English. The portions of the Bible that mention Solomon are written in HEBREW. Solomon (Shlomo) is spelled Shin-Lamed-Mem-Hay in that language and the numerical value is 375.

quote:2. the very center of the bible is Psalms 117 in my old 1800's bible this verse has 33 words, the exact years that jesus lived and also the generations from adam to david. Most modern versions are edited the common things I have seen have 29 words, 32 word, or 30 words.There is no real way to calculate the "Centre" of the Bible. It all varies based on font size, section breaks, parsing, what language it's written in and which translation you're using, whether you're Christian or Jewish (i.e. whether the New Testament is included), and how many pages of concordance, forward, commentary, and indices there are. Regardless, Psalm 117 in Hebrew has 17 words.

I find it hillarious that you ridicule the idea that the Bible's wording is accurate and important, yet go to illogical extremes to try and pull mystical significances out of second hand translations.



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you can add up anyones name? That's true but you obviously didn't look for the website I gave. Try searching "some VERY interesting information on 666" king solomon's name relates to more than the number did you know that Sol in egyptain is "sun" and om in Hindi is "sun" and On in hebrew is "sun?" It relates to a thing called the sun square check it out, it's neat.

Ok, stop picking on him.

It's obvious he meant no ill will.

quote:Originally posted by kenshin_kid:

I was reading some stuff, some people don't believe there are contradictions in the bible. Ya right. I don't have a problem with chirstianity just people that still insist what is truth when it has been proven otherwise.

1. The vowels in king solomon's name add up to 666. ("O" is the 15th letter in the alaphabet. add 1+5 3 times, 666)

2. the very center of the bible is Psalms 117 in my old 1800's bible this verse has 33 words, the exact years that jesus lived and also the generations from adam to david. Most modern versions are edited the common things I have seen have 29 words, 32 word, or 30 words.

3. There is a whole shitload I don't remeber that relates to holy numbers and crap. Search "satanic doctorines" on google and go to the first site the have tons of info on satanism and 666 origins. I'm not satanist, i'm buddhist infact but I find all this stuff neat ^^. c ya'll

-kenshin

That is nothing but ridiculous. I'm not a Christian, but that is 100% coincidence. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

quote:Originally posted by Dragonsthrone:

Im not talking about the adaption and mutations (which 99.9% of the time are negative), but rather how if the eart were but a few thousand miles closer to the sun we would burn, and a few thousand further back, and we would freeze. If thats not a coincedence then it was planned by a Creator right?

Roughly 40,000 other known planets have these exact properties... Its no coincendence, simple pyhsics...

Edit: BTW: The overwhelming majority of mutations are neutral...

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quote:Originally posted by Axiom:

Roughly 40,000 other known planets have these exact properties... Its no coincendence, simple pyhsics...



source? i was under the impression that spotting earth-like planets was difficult because of their minimal influence on the sun.

there is nothing miraculous about it tho. if earth was different, life would have evolved differently, or never arisen to question itself.

quote:Originally posted by Axiom:

Roughly 40,000 other known planets have these exact properties... Its no coincendence, simple pyhsics...

40,000 planets??? What are you talking about? There are nine planets that we currently know of, along with their respective moons. As well, there is talk of a Planet X, named Nibiru. There very well could be 40,000 planets, if not more, but as for now there is no evidence to support that.

Edit: BTW: The overwhelming majority of mutations are neutral...

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of corse its a coincidence, how many billion stars are there in our galaxy? how many billion galaxys are there? theres a 1000000000000000000 chances to get it right, atleast!

not to mention that the milky way is on the outer edge of the universe. i.e. we are a relativly young galaxy. there have already been civilizations rise and fall millions of light years away, most likely.

quote:Originally posted by kenwih:

source? i was under the impression that spotting earth-like planets was difficult because of their minimal influence on the sun.

there is nothing miraculous about it tho. if earth was different, life would have evolved differently, or never arisen to question itself.

Hmmm, it was a fact I picked up off Discovery Channel... I can't remember the name, It went on to show a few planets and what a possible life form from the planet would look like computer modelled...

I'll look around their site and get back to you...

quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

40,000 planets??? What are you talking about? There are nine planets that we currently know of, along with their respective moons. As well, there is talk of a Planet X, named Nibiru. There very well could be 40,000 planets, if not more, but as for now there is no evidence to support that.

We know many more than the 9 planets of the solar system. The number so far is about 160 planets in the 10 years we have the technology to detect them. As the technology improves we may detect more and even smaller, earth-size planets. Of course, it's not conclusive evidence but it's a hint that planets may be quite common.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502231.html

cool

quote:Originally posted by kenshin_kid:



1. The vowels in king solomon's name add up to 666. ("O" is the 15th letter in the alaphabet. add 1+5 3 times, 666)

They used a different alphabet, you moron.

Ok, sorry I was wrong about the original text but I think the original word, spoken or printed would be Aramaic. And Latin isn't a dead language (ex: podium, stadium, atrium, gymnasium, pediatrics, geriatrics, othalmology, sinister, cacophony, cacopygian, cacodemon http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif) blah blah blah)

The original Bible is still a hell of a long way from english so all this "666" shit is balogney. Could probably do something similar with "Lord of the Rings". Anyone looking for real bible facts isn't looking for "well take this letter here, do this and that, and what the bible REALLY means is...." Obviously I've put more original thought in my post than that bs and if your only mental (not nececarily printed) response is "not Hebrew stupid" then learning about the Bible isn't really why your in this topic.

'Peace

quote:Originally posted by Dragonsthrone:

Im not talking about the adaption and mutations (which 99.9% of the time are negative), but rather how if the eart were but a few thousand miles closer to the sun we would burn, and a few thousand further back, and we would freeze. If thats not a coincedence then it was planned by a Creator right?

What the fuck are you talking about? The Earth varies it's distance from the Sun by 3.5 MILLION miles during it's yearly revolution.

-Source http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/statistics.html

quote:Originally posted by TalcumPowder:

Ok, sorry I was wrong about the original text but I think the original word, spoken or printed would be Aramaic. And Latin isn't a dead language (ex: podium, stadium, atrium, gymnasium, pediatrics, geriatrics, othalmology, sinister, cacophony, cacopygian, cacodemon http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif) blah blah blah)

The original Bible is still a hell of a long way from english so all this "666" shit is balogney. Could probably do something similar with "Lord of the Rings". Anyone looking for real bible facts isn't looking for "well take this letter here, do this and that, and what the bible REALLY means is...." Obviously I've put more original thought in my post than that bs and if your only mental (not nececarily printed) response is "not Hebrew stupid" then learning about the Bible isn't really why your in this topic.

'Peace



I don't usually argue, but just because we use words derived from a language...it doesn't mean that that particular language is in active use. I could be wrong, but I'm not familiar with any countries that a significant number of people speak latin as their primary language.

quote:Originally posted by Megrim:

What the fuck are you talking about? The Earth varies it's distance from the Sun by 3.5 [b]MILLION miles during it's yearly revolution.



Heh, I actually cracked up at that.

quote:Originally posted by IanBoyd3:



Heh, I actually cracked up at that.



Same here. I find it funny how some hardcore christians still beleive that crap.

quote:Originally posted by Beta69:

Originally posted by Dragonsthrone:

Im not talking about the adaption and mutations (which 99.9% of the time are negative), but rather how if the eart were but a few thousand miles closer to the sun we would burn, and a few thousand further back, and we would freeze. If thats not a coincedence then it was planned by a Creator right?

Wrong, the majority of mutations are neutral. Please pick up a science book.

I assume you believe every puddle is created by God because the water seems to fit it so perfectly (to steal from Douglas Adams). If the earth wasn't in the right place life wouldn't have formed on it and we wouldn't be having this discussion about earth. The fact that life only forms on planets suitable isn't that amazing.

That's like saying the fact I can role a normal die millions of times and yet still not get a 7 is an amazing act of God.



Do yall believe in the big bang too?? cuz if you do.. the probability of something like that happening is like a book factory exploding and a perfectly good websters dictionary comes out

ok Latin isn't a language that many people can speak fluently but there is a lot of latin in english and I don't mean derived either. The words themselves are often strictly latin, like names of medical practices, medicines, dinosaurs, etc. Cool thing I've noticed about latin is that you can practically invent a word that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do. Like if I wanted to say "beautiful ass" as a description of a woman I would say callo- (beautiful as in caligraphy, beautiful writing)-pigian for posterior end. Sorry guys, I'm just learning this language myself and I think its totally awsome.

666 is not a satanic number...616 is!!!