You guys would be the bigger experts than the people in S&A. By cheating I dont mean sex, Just doing the same things her and I do As boyfriend and girlfriend. Going to a movie with a single guy or talking about feelings or being on the phone for hours, Stuff like that. Not saying she would or has but I want to know the moral seriousness to christians in this circumstance, Seeing as how were not married (she's my fiance as of now but I want to know about her feelings on that before)

Your post disgusts me.

quote:Originally posted by Atomical:

Your post disgusts me.



Your presence disgusts me

If you look at woman in lustful way, you are sinning. So yes, talking about that stuff before you are married is a sin. Sin = bad.

P.S. Those rules are stupid.

quote:Originally posted by HAND:

You guys would be the bigger experts than the people in S&A. By cheating I dont mean sex, Just doing the same things her and I do As boyfriend and girlfriend. Going to a movie with a single guy or talking about feelings or being on the phone for hours, Stuff like that. Not saying she would or has but I want to know the moral seriousness to christians in this circumstance, Seeing as how were not married (she's my fiance as of now but I want to know about her feelings on that before)

I don't think I understand your question. Explain it again.

quote:Originally posted by ohhi:

If you look at woman in lustful way, you are sinning. So yes, talking about that stuff before you are married is a sin. Sin = bad.

P.S. Those rules are stupid.

You're slightly misguided on this. Love and passion and sexual attraction can be void of lust. THis is a matter of the heart and only the individual can discern if they are or are not in the condition of lust.

The best I can explain lust (since that is what I think HAND is talking about) is if you look at the opposite sex from the head down and only for gratification of selfish desires.

As for adultry - it is the act of conscience and heart of looking at a woman in a lustful way. The actual act of adultry happened long before the sexual part. (see the definition of lust)

quote:Originally posted by HAND:

You guys would be the bigger experts than the people in S&A. By cheating I dont mean sex, Just doing the same things her and I do As boyfriend and girlfriend. Going to a movie with a single guy or talking about feelings or being on the phone for hours, Stuff like that. Not saying she would or has but I want to know the moral seriousness to christians in this circumstance, Seeing as how were not married (she's my fiance as of now but I want to know about her feelings on that before)

Are you asking if your fiance has gone out to movies, talked for hours on the phone with another guy, would that be cheating?

Not necessarily but, you would have to discover the nature of that relationship. Friends from childhood? Workmates? Are they shareing their feelings for one another?

Any rate, it would be a little disrespectful to your engagement if she were doing these things with someone else as they are activities of a courtship.

Be careful and don't get all messed up about it until you find out some facts. The last thing you want to do is going around all jealous and creating more problems for yourself.

If you sense she may be cheating then there is a good chance you are catching signals that she isn't as devoted to your relationship as you are. It's a sign she isn't ready for what you are asking her to do yet.

As for being in adultry or any other kind of sin along those lines I don't see it but I would take that with a grain of salt since all I have to go from is what you described. (which really isn't all that clear!)

quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

I don't think I understand your question. Explain it again.

I have to say I agree.

I don't even understand what the question is....how is cheating involved in this equation ?

OH WOW! I dont even remember making this topic (must have been drunk). It doesnt matter anyhow. I think my qeustion was, Would she beleive that God would be angered at her for seeing other guys behind my back? How would she think it would affect her relationship to god? Does she beleive that God's rules dont apply to non married couples? Even if it isnt sex? Im talking dates or flirting heavely with some guy.

Just for the record, This was a drunk qeustion, I could care less now. You know how jealous you can get when drunk

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

.how is cheating involved in this equation ?



Are you implying that cheating only pertains to sex? That would suprise the hell out of me coming from you.

And just for the nosey ones, She lives in kansas and I live in cali. In less than a year were moving in together. Im sure you can see why I dont mention sex now