i, myself being a druid, wonder if there is are any fellow druids out there who would like to speak up. ld also like some feedback on druidry itself, being an almost dead religion.

I bet you feel special.

Are you a restoration tree, balanced or feral druid? My guild needs a healer and your welcome to join.

quote:Originally posted by wetwashing:

Are you a restoration tree, balanced or feral druid? My guild needs a healer and your welcome to join.

lol, great one

quote:Originally posted by coolwestman:

lol, great one

couldnt agree more.

you realize that even though you call yourself a druid you don't know 1% of what the druids back in the day were. the religion is dead and you calling yourself a druid is mocking the druids of old.

you make me sick

quote:Originally posted by beaver:

i, myself being a druid, wonder if there is are any fellow druids out there who would like to speak up. ld also like some feedback on druidry itself, being an almost dead religion.

There are plenty of non "druid" pre-christian religions.

quote:Originally posted by Boblong:

There are plenty of non "druid" pre-christian religions.

Like Jews and Buhdists.

I'm okay with the pre-christian religions that don't base their faith on the fact that they are a pre-christian religion.

Buddhism

judaism

hinduism

Those are cool. However, the jackasses who are just out there for attention or who feel like they want to be in a pre-christian religion because they figure the more ancient the religion the more truth it must hold are just stupid.

druids

coptics (egyptian religion)

vikings

witches

Those religions are all a crock of shit. Coptics and vikings are stupid because, let's face it, if ra were real, he'd have been a little pissed that nobodys been mummifying goats for him anymore, and would have come down here and beaten our asses. Same with thor, and all the other pantheon of ancient myth. Witches and druids are even funnier. We know virtually nothing about ancient witchcraft or druidry, and you'd be better off looking in a history book for information about them than any sacred text written by or practiced by the so called paritioners of these faiths. Neodruidism was created in 1792, far after christianity, and all other of these ridiculous neopaganistic cults were created afterwards. Most of the idiots who call themselves witches these days adhere to doctrine written between the 40s and now, postdating my religion (mormonism) by almost 100 years.

The worst part is that these gothic-wannabee imbeciles driving their mother's old toyota tercell actually believe that their religion is the most ancient, and that it was practiced since the beginning of time. That is the biggest lie ever. The most ancient religions were most likely matriarchial polytheistic ones, who still have more doctrine and structure than poser witch #6540's religion ever will.

Here's a thought druid boy: Why dont you find some other way to make daddy angry at you? Why dont you cut this teenage rebellion bullshit and really start taking a look at the world? Hmm?

You can go ahead and start your placebos, making voodoo dolls of me, cursing me through the power of the oak tree in your back yard, hell, for a nominal fee I'll even provide you with samples of my hair. It won't do a damn thing. I dont care how empowered you feel, when you move out of your mom's basement and start paying your own rent, then we'll see how many goat slaughters you end up going to.

Kiss my ass.

biopsy is the worst person ever.

Coptics are a sect of Christianity which originates in Egypt and still exists. Coptic Christians. Coptic Christians don't believe in Ra, the sun god of ancient egypt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Christianity

The Vikings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking

But Thor and all that is part of Norse Mythology and Cosmology.

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

Coptics are a sect of Christianity which originates in Egypt and still exists. Coptic Christians. Coptic Christians don't believe in Ra, the sun god of ancient egypt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copt

http:/ /en.wikipe dia.org/wi ki/Coptic_Christianity (http: //en.wikip edia.org/w iki/Coptic _Christian ity)

The Vikings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking

But Thor and all that is part of Norse Mythology and Cosmology.

I am aware of coptic christianity, however I have heard the term used outside of christianity to refer to those who believe in the gods of old. If I used the term incorrectly, I appologise. However I did quantify the term in order to displace any confusion. I was referring to those who still believe in ra, isis, and the garden of ancient egyptian gods.

biopsy is the worst person ever.

quote:Originally posted by Jaryohem063:

I am aware of coptic christianity, however I have heard the term used outside of christianity to refer to those who believe in the gods of old. If I used the term incorrectly, I appologise. However I did quantify the term in order to displace any confusion. I was referring to those who still believe in ra, isis, and the garden of ancient egyptian gods.

biopsy is the worst person ever.

I just wanted to clearify the term Copts, followers of the Ancient Egyptian religion might fall within a group that developed prior to the early 20th Century during the time alot of exploration was going on in Egypt, certain Occultists picked up alot from Egypt during that time, I'm not sure they have a name as a unit specifically. Aleister Crowley was also one fascinated with Ancient Egypt and the Gods of Ancient Egypt, communicating with them in his book THE BOOK OF THE LAW.

What's your MSN Adress? AIM? Yahoo?

quote:Originally posted by Beelzebub:



couldnt agree more.

you realize that even though you call yourself a druid you don't know 1% of what the druids back in the day were. the religion is dead and you calling yourself a druid is mocking the druids of old.

you make me sick



So, what should he call himself, a Neo-druid or something? Druid is just a name, a title, nothing more. He can call himself whatever he wants, it's his beleif, not yours. I don't think you have any right to judge wether he is worthy of the title or not.

Besides, more information about pre anglosaxon England is available than you might think. I'm not sure how much our friend here(referring to the OP) knows about druids, but I can assure you, thanks to some archeology, (sp?)we're pretty sure we know a lot more about the ancient druids way of life than just 1%,



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Im generally interested in Shamanism and Druidry... But Not enough to look around ,the majority of information is written by teenagers who feel that witchcrat actually calls up demons and devils and is not actually a form of belief.

(On reading this it's a little unclear. What I am sayong is that rather than relying on fireballs and a level 9 magic missle , Magic is ,in my opinion, a focusing of belief. Such as the rituals that are seen in every religion , magic s merely a way of focusing this belief to a goal. Eg Believing that you can do something will often imporve the chances of you doing something. So, a ritual practice or mantra to encourage self belief will help... Hmm.. still unclear...

Edit: I'm saying magic is about yourself and your own mind rather than brooms or other dimensions.)

I gave up a long time ago on looking towards any of that ,it's all watered down ,most historical facts have to be dug for in midden heap of adolescent diversionism... Follow god or find your own religion ... If you're interested in nature worship Etc go ahead... But aybe you should check out Chaos as a religion? (Preferably the non-hocus pocus kind)

Er.... I forgot what I was going to say now ....

Have A Nice Day.

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quote:Originally posted by NeoIceshroom:

So, what should he call himself, a Neo-druid or something? Druid is just a name, a title, nothing more. He can call himself whatever he wants, it's his beleif, not yours. I don't think you have any right to judge wether he is worthy of the title or not.

Besides, more information about pre anglosaxon England is available than you might think. I'm not sure how much our friend here(referring to the OP) knows about druids, but I can assure you, thanks to some archeology, (sp?)we're pretty sure we know a lot more about the ancient druids way of life than just 1%,



Way of life perhaps, but we know so little about the ancient druid religion, that any attempt to reconstruct it in a complete form today is hogwash. Yes, he should call himelf a neo-druid, and the witches should call themselves neo-witches or something to that effect. They have no links to the distant past. I've heard so many "witches" say that their religion is better than christianity because it is older, well, it is not older.

That's all I'm saying.

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:



What's your MSN Adress? AIM? Yahoo?

My secondary AIM account is HomerJay603, but GAIM keeps logging it out, and if it's overused by folk here I'll take it offline.

I worship Bacchus from time to time, and when something bad happens I blame Fortune, so yeah.

The older religions have been dying for a long time. It is a sad travesty that these religions will not be practived in the correct way ever again. Though it is worth applauding those who try and bring them back. Those who think that they are following these religions they way they were are fooling themselves.

I feel that if enough people find out and adapt the old religions they can become this ages form of druids. It would be a shame to let these religions die because one group of people worked so hard to destroy them.

It's interesting that I saw this thread today, because I have just started to really become interested in Druidism. My ethnic background is German, Irish and British, and my interest was primarily sparked because I can trace all of my ancestry back to the Celts.

What historical information we have is very interesting. An ancient Roman writing includes a battle against the Celts on the island of Mona. As the Roman Legion marched on, they were awestruck and temporarily halted when they witnessed a group of druids with hands raised to their air calling imprecations upon them...

I find that a strange sort of thing to write about a wartime enemy. Why would the Romans write that the great and indestrucible force that was their Legion could be awed by a band of heathens? The implications are astounding, when taken into consideration that nations try to discredit their enemies by making them seem less powerful than they really are. Perhaps it was not mere words that were flung around by the druids. Perhaps it was a display of magic to be able to halt the greatest army the world had ever seen.

I'm interested in knowing what sect of Druidism you belong to Beaver? Personally, I consider Celtic Reconstructionism to be the way to go.

quote:Originally posted by Iam:

I find that a strange sort of thing to write about a wartime enemy. Why would the Romans write that the great and indestrucible force that was their Legion could be awed by a band of heathens? The implications are astounding, when taken into consideration that nations try to discredit their enemies by making them seem less powerful than they really are. Perhaps it was not mere words that were flung around by the druids. Perhaps it was a display of magic to be able to halt the greatest army the world had ever seen.



It depends on the source of it but the implications are not "astounding". Which type of document was it?

In the histories as written by Publius Tacitus (perhaps THE most important Roman historian). He described the Roman attack on the Island of Mona and that as the Druids rose their hands to the heavens and called down imprecations, the Roman Legion was awed. I don't really care if you consider this astounding or not. Obviously, such a descriptive term is subjective.

I merely find that, in light of how historians portray the enemies of their nations, it is unique that Tacitus would include in his description that their enemy AWED what was hailed as the greatest militia the world had ever seen.

I consider it to be kick-ass (Hey, I couldn't think of anything to describe it better). But still If a small band of savagely dressed heathens stood on a hill infront of a LOT of men and started screeching some crazy shit ,I'D be scared. To a superstitious people a small band of "holy men" ,Even if they are of another culture ,are pretty impressive. Rumours can easily pass through the ranks of the superhuman powers of these druids. Men get nervous. they look at each other and notice that everyone else is looking worried. It gets more worrying ... And so on. If an arrow had shot from the ranks and caught one of them in the throat they wouldn't have seemed so impressive.

Still ... * sighs* It'd be nice to imagine it working ina diferant way to that... A lack of magic makes everything somewhat less magical....

But Beaver ,What are your beliefs. can you outline what you do etc?

Wow!! Impressive, you took 20 years out of your life to train as a druid.

I try to worship the Norse Gods the same way

my ancestors did.Luckily for me the pre christian vikings were not very devout.

They seemed more interested in living for the

here and now and having a good time than

worrying about what the gods were up to.

The only religous thing I do is wear a "Thors

Hammer" I made from a piece of iron.One of my

favorite thing about my religion is no matter

how terrible a life I live as long as I die

violently I go to Valhala.I also get a kick

out of explaining my religion to the Jehovas

,born agains and Mormons who come around.

My religion is more about my culture and

history than a fundementalist belief in

Odin and Thor. I do think that some kid

casting spells in his rumpus room is no more

gullible than a Mormon who thinks the little

voice in his head telling him to marry half a dozen 14 year old girls is god and not his

libido.

quote:Originally posted by Unsub:

I try to worship the Norse Gods the same way

my ancestors did.Luckily for me the pre christian vikings were not very devout.

They seemed more interested in living for the

here and now and having a good time than

worrying about what the gods were up to.

The only religous thing I do is wear a "Thors

Hammer" I made from a piece of iron.One of my

favorite thing about my religion is no matter

how terrible a life I live as long as I die

violently I go to Valhala.I also get a kick

out of explaining my religion to the Jehovas

,born agains and Mormons who come around.

My religion is more about my culture and

history than a fundementalist belief in

Odin and Thor. I do think that some kid

casting spells in his rumpus room is no more

gullible than a Mormon who thinks the little

voice in his head telling him to marry half a dozen 14 year old girls is god and not his

libido.



...I'm not totally sure you've got a good grip on the Norse Religion. I get that feeling because of some of the things you said about it. The Norse Religion wasn't exactly a big joke in the lands that believed in it, it was an everyday part of life and ceremony and offered alot of meaning, nor was it just for warriors.

The Gods and their stories should be used as examples to understand the forces of nature, and the forces behind human nature. Each representing different facets of the Reality we exist within. Norse religion wasn't about dying for Odin and entering Valhalla, that was a specific cult designated to the worship of Odin and attaining ecstacy through battle fury or vigorous action, fury in general. Back in the Norse days, just like today, I believe there were people who took it seriously, and others who did not take the religion seriously. The key to Norse Religion from what fragments we have left of it is to learn from the Cosmology and tales of each of the Gods. Norse Mythology isn't completely innacurate and much of it can be applied to benefit and learn in a modern setting.