I'm watching a history channel thing on OD, and it's gotta be the wierdest religious thing I've heard about since I read up on scientology.

At first I thought OD was kinda cool, but then I started to hear about the "numerators", who live in the OD centers, hurt themselves, aren't allowed to talk to their families, can only watch certain television and movies, and give all their money to organization.

So my opinion on OD is that it's probibly a cult, and that it's bad. I should read the Time article on it later. I'll post that if you guys are interested.

What are your thoughts?

sounds like a cult to me but then so do most religions to me

You mean OT? Operational Thetan? The levels of Scientology?

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

You mean OT? Operational Thetan? The levels of Scientology?

Let's see...

The title of the thread is "opus dei", the initials of which being "od". An intelligent totsean would connect the two. You seem not to have. I wonder if you can see where I'm going with this...

biopsy is the worst person ever.

You should really read the Time article before you judge. It's a very well written article, and I think it presents the most accurate depiction of Opus Dei that I've ever seen.

It isn't a cult, but it also certainly isn't some normal sect of Catholicism. I think the TIME article does a good job of presenting that.

Be careful, a lot of hatered about Opus Dei has come from Dan Browns the Da vinci code, the opus dei are peaceful.

quote:Originally posted by napoleon_complex:

You should really read the Time article before you judge. It's a very well written article, and I think it presents the most accurate depiction of Opus Dei that I've ever seen.

It isn't a cult, but it also certainly isn't some normal sect of Catholicism. I think the TIME article does a good job of presenting that.

i read that. it was written well. i still feel that it didnt tell everything. damn the da vinci code anyway. and, i just don't like catholics.

quote:Originally posted by Jaryohem063:

Let's see...

The title of the thread is "opus dei", the initials of which being "od". An intelligent totsean would connect the two. You seem not to have. I wonder if you can see where I'm going with this...

biopsy is the worst person ever.

So you're saying...that...Operational Thetan goes by the name Opus Dei!? What?!

OD isnt a cult or anything, im pretty sure it was set up by some VERY devout christians who wanted to go gods work, i think thats what OD stands for gods work?

They thought they shoiuld go back to traditional christian roots such as corporal punnishment (sp?) and such, dont believe what the da vinci code tells you http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Dan "hitler" Brown

Read The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown!

Buy another overhyped novel!

Or read another Liberal Magazine! The Time article didn't really "depict" much of anything, just stated how it started and how they were planning on using the publicity created by the Da Vinci Code to further their cause. It always will be true that theres no such thing as bad publicity, well except in false rape accusations then the publicity for the defendent is life ruining... and ya it said that some members do whip themselves and even wear the barb wire lookin thing around their upper thigh, called a siblance or soemthin idk. I thought the Davinci code was a great piece of FICTIONAL literature but I also think that the Time article doesn't really get all the angles.

opus dei does mean work of god

well gods work

but same thing

I've talked to a couple members of Opus Dei. They seem nice enough. They are very intent on helping me find God. Only Numeraries live in OD compounds. Supernumeraries just donate some money to them.

quote:Originally posted by diehard993:

I've talked to a couple members of Opus Dei. They seem nice enough. They are very intent on helping me find God. Only Numeraries live in OD compounds. Supernumeraries just donate some money to them.

I think they misread your name and thought you were one of them (Opus) Dei Hard. lol

quote:Originally posted by bazthefish:

sounds like a cult to me but then so do most religions to me

quote:Originally posted by bazthefish:

sounds like a cult to me but then so do most religions to me

re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)

n.

Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Religion

Agnostic. Atheist. Non-observant Jewish. Neo-pagan. Very

commonly, three or more of these are combined in the same person.

Conventional faith-holding Christianity is rare though not unknown.

Even hackers who identify with a religious affiliation tend to be

relaxed about it, hostile to organized religion in general and all

forms of religious bigotry in particular. Many enjoy `parody'

religions such as Discordianism and the Church of the SubGenius.

Also, many hackers are influenced to varying degrees by Zen Buddhism

or (less commonly) Taoism, and blend them easily with their `native'

religions.

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that shows up even among those hackers not actively involved with

neo-paganism, Discordianism, or Zen. Hacker folklore that pays homage

to `wizards' and speaks of incantations and demons has too much

psychological truthfulness about it to be entirely a joke.

Source: Jargon File 4.2.0



cult ( P ) Pronunciation Key (klt)

n.

A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

The followers of such a religion or sect.

A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.

A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.

Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.

The object of such devotion.

An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

(then I started typing randomly and typed this which happens to be a word)

Devoto

\De*vo"to\, n. [It.] A devotee. --Dr. J. Scott.

well most peoples religions are believed to be untrue by the majority of people becouse theres no religion that has over 50% of the worlds people.And to the charistmatic leader jesus could have been charismatic im not judging it just seems everythings a cult

OD is a really dodgy buch of hard-core catholics.

or at least, that's what they say. For most of them, it's just another club - the get together, and instead of a barbie and a little fun, they pray and suchlike. They also use it for extended nepotism: they all find jobs for each others kids and so on.

I doubt that there is any conspiracy going on underneath the "innocent" catholic facade.

They started out as a spanish sect, I can't remember the bloke who started it, but it wasn't that long ago. 19xx, so it's fairly modern.

quote:Originally posted by bazthefish:

well most peoples religions are believed to be untrue by the majority of people becouse theres no religion that has over 50% of the worlds people.And to the charistmatic leader jesus could have been charismatic im not judging it just seems everythings a cult

There is no religion that has over 50% of the worlds people?

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

There is no religion that has over 50% of the worlds people?

Correct.

Christianity: 33%

Islam: 21%

Secular/Agnostic/Atheist: 16%

Hinduism: 14%

other: 16%

quote:Originally posted by Viraljimmy:

Correct.

Christianity: 33%

Islam: 21%

Secular/Agnostic/Atheist: 16%

Hinduism: 14%

other: 16%

Wowza!

Opus Dei is full of faggots.

Yes, it's true, they're dillusional and they suck.

quote:Originally posted by Viraljimmy:

Correct.

Christianity: 33%

Islam: 21%

Secular/Agnostic/Atheist: 16%

Hinduism: 14%

other: 16%

Awesome! The more I know!

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

So you're saying...that...Operational Thetan goes by the name Opus Dei!? What?!

I hope you're acting stupid on purpose, and even then, shut the fuck up, you're not funny.

quote:Originally posted by piewalker101:

Originally posted by Abrahim:

So you're saying...that...Operational Thetan goes by the name Opus Dei!? What?!

I hope you're acting stupid on purpose, and even then, shut the fuck up, you're not funny.

looks like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the pie.