To all theists of all faiths what would you consider to be evidence that there is no God? A God that complies to a set of a beliefs of a current major religion, traditional all powerful white beard lighting blot in hand guy in the sky, or A higher power that has some how effected humans since our creation and is all powerful.
The evidence can be as farfeched as you want.
When I think of it I pose the same question to agnostics, what would convince you there is not a God?
I realize that I made a thread just the opposite to this but it got me on this train of thought.
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truckfixr
2006-05-25, 01:31
There can be no absolute proof that God does not exist. But without evidence to indicate that a God does exist, it is more logical to not believe.
while there can be no absolute proof that God exists there can be evidence that can come about that might be able to sway ones opinion. That's what I am asking what evidence would have to come about to turn an theist or an agnostic in to an atheist on a per person baises.
quote:Originally posted by Q777:
To all theists of all faiths what would you consider to be evidence that there is no God? A God that complies to a set of a beliefs of a current major religion, traditional all powerful white beard lighting blot in hand guy in the sky, or A higher power that has some how effected humans since our creation and is all powerful.
The evidence can be as farfeched as you want.
I realize that I made a thread just the opposite to this but it got me on this train of thought.
Q777 Whats your MSN AIM or YAHOO? I wanna add you!
I disbelieve completely in white beard lightning Guy and the Humanization of "God".
The only God there ever was and ever will be in our lives, the most powerful factor, is what we exist within, are made of, and are completely dependant of: Reality. It contains all the possibilities of what you can possibly do, what you can possibly think, and absolutely everything else. Furthermore it is ONE, all things exist within it and are made of it at the essential Core, if we did not exist within Reality, then we simply wouldnt exist.
Reality is the base plain in which universes can exist, a manifestor of possibilities.
Reality is the only God. It is completely smooth, so subtle that many of us forget to realize we are completely dependant on it, it composes our everything, even us.
So many people on here, even athiests, say they will believe in something they can SEE, some big thing that comes from the sky and says that it is God, when in fact if any big thing comes from the sky that means Reality had included in this universe the option for some big thing to come from the sky, and once again it is completely dependant on the true God: Reality.
Saying Reality is in the image of man, has a son, is a man, can come as a singular incarnation inside a man are all absurd "Blasphemy", impossible lies, Reality can only be Reality, all things are its "incarnation" or "manifestation" only existing within it because it manifested the option for it to exist. Everything a part of it, equal, essentially there is Only Reality and that is the only "God" worthy of submission to.
God, Reality, is "Living" if it was "Dead" or non existant, so too would we not exist, nothing would have ever happened, all is within and dependant on Reality. Clearly, all things exist and are in motion, Reality is "Alive".
Is there Reward and Punishment? I will never be able to prove if there is reward or punishment, I don't even know what happens tomorrow.
Is this information in a book? Is that how you got these ideas? Yes.
Absolutely nothing can make me disbelieve in Reality, because if I have the ability to think, exist, do, or experience anything, then I know I am still within the bounds of Reality, there is no escape.
When you die, you are dead, no more experiencing, but your energy is obviously used by everything around, you return to the mass.
There are no Flaws in Reality, everything is smooth in the system. Are you typing and suddenly your keyboard dissapears completely and randomly? Are there any true glitches? Some might claim there are glitches but there are none. The System and Reality is perfect, ours, and all possible others. Many ask "But wouldnt that include "Imperfect Possibilities" and I say Imperfect things can not exist, the word and Idea can.
For me, to disbelieve in God, is to disbelieve in Reality itself, in myself, in my thoughts, in everything within me and without me. I can't make myself do it, even if I could, I would be lying to myself. For as long as I can think and know, be and do, I am, and will always be a part of Reality. The only God one should humble themselves before and surrender to.
What is surrendering to God? Humbling yourself to Reality, realizing these things, being appreciative of all you have, from your body to your thoughts to all you can experience. Worship and bowing down is not for "God" it is for yourself, to humble yourself, meditate, come to peace with it all.
What other God is there? What is more powerful? Whatever you can think would be within Reality, Reality is the ultimate and only God.
My aim is Q7770100
I find your views on god interesting
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