naturism is practically a religion already, we have a common belief that nudity is the natural way to be and we are worshipping every time we take our clothes off. but the real reason we should insist on naturism being classified legally as a religion is to benifit from all the perks religions get by law, respect being the first. the media can't have a serious debate about naturism without it turning into a mockery, but if naturism is a religion then they won't be able to joke and make fun of us. also we'd have the right to worship, so no more lawsuits because our bodies have offended an old con. infact if they disprove of us we can plead religious hatred! All the govs. around the world will be forced to accept naturists and give them rights as naturists. Imagine if all the naturists in the world got together to say naturism is our religion, its not just an hobby, its what we believe, naturism would be one of the largest religions in the world!

http://www.nudist-resorts.org/talk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=725

I forgot to say: I'm trying to convince non-naturists that naturism is our religion so bucking respect us- or we'll sue you for religious hatred, and to tell naturists to put their religion as 'Naturist' when ever they are filling out a form, or the national census.

and if anyone has any ideas on how to make a religion legally accepted tell us. Jedi is a religion now! so Naturism should be too

I don't respect religion, so what makes you think I'll respect naturalism if it becomes one?

Anyways, do you really want to see fat people naked?

Humans Naturally started wearing clothes. It is now un natural in most places with other people for a human to walk around naked.

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Your wrong humans started to wear clothes because of changing climate, it's only with the advent of religion and the manipulation of people to make them believe in god that it's become a sin to be naked. and naturism is not about seeing others, it's about feeling liberated and at one with nature. we're nude for our selves not for others.

And the law forces us to respect religions wheather we agree with them or not, just with naturism you get to agree as well

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quote:Originally posted by dr_rock:

Your wrong humans started to wear clothes because of changing climate, it's only with the advent of religion and the manipulation of people to make them believe in god that it's become a sin to be naked. and naturism is not about seeing others, it's about feeling liberated and at one with nature. we're nude for our selves not for others.

And the law forces us to respect religions wheather we agree with them or not, just with naturism you get to agree as well



I'm naked most hours of the day as some people know but I believe anything that humans do is "natural" or part of nature, their nature, be it stupid and "wrong" or harmful, or "intelligent", and "right" and beneficial.

Naturally, I think clothes are natural these days. Things will wheels too.

I really don't want to desensitize myself to nude imagery or make it commonplace, nor do I want to see people who aren't beautiful in my opinion, not their genitals especially lol. I really appreciate the decency and mutual respect of those who wear clothes until they know each other better and then get totally naked. Plus I don't like showing pee pee if its not erect. Now I'll tell you my life story...lol

I believe clothes were developed for climate reasons, cultural reasons, protective reasons. Yes we're just animals, but we're animals who wear clothes now.

How are clothes unnatural? We invented them for practical reasons.

I mean, picture it. Hunting in the stone age. You don't really want your knackers dangling about while you're running around chasing mammoths, do you?

Jx

quote:Originally posted by Jessic:

How are clothes unnatural? We invented them for practical reasons.

I mean, picture it. Hunting in the stone age. You don't really want your knackers dangling about while you're running around chasing mammoths, do you?

Jx

yes you do, sperm production needs a lower temperature than the rest of the body, thats why they hang. underpants are bad for fertility. cavemen(sic) didn't wear underwear.

As I'm not a man, I wouldn't know, but I assume it's not practical (or comfortable) to be wafting free pant-wise whilst tearing through undergrowth.

Jx

quote:Originally posted by dr_rock:

yes you do, sperm production needs a lower temperature than the rest of the body, thats why they hang. underpants are bad for fertility. cavemen(sic) didn't wear underwear.



Saying something is right on the premise that it's what our ancestors did doesn't make it right. Cavemen may not have worn underwear, but they also froze to death in the winter. They also didn't have a clue as to what calculus, biology, reading, writing, etc. is.

Being naked may be natural, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. Bacteria are natural, but that doesn't mean many won't make you sick.

How do you feel about anti-bacterial soap? It kills organisms (natural beings), so is that taboo in your society?

Also, clothing is a hygiene issue. Footwear prevents the spread of athlete's foot and other foot fungi. Underwear helps prevent the spread of fecal bacteria.



If your reason for making your religion popular isn't inherently because it's right, but because you want the "perks" of being a socially and legally accepted worshipper, there's something amiss there. Does it really matter who accepts you as long as you think what you're doing is right? Why does it matter what society thinks of you so long know what you're doing is right?

Then ask yourself, is it true?



I'm pretty big on nature, so don't tell me I'm insulting her by criticizing your religion, either.

Also, I have my doubts your computer is made out of entirely natural materials, so wouldn't that be violating the basic concept of your religion?



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quote:Originally posted by Jessic:

As I'm not a man, I wouldn't know, but I assume it's not practical (or comfortable) to be wafting free pant-wise whilst tearing through undergrowth.

Jx

You're not a man!? OMG! can I talk to you on MSN or Aim Please? I looove non men!

quote:Originally posted by dr_rock:

yes you do, sperm production needs a lower temperature than the rest of the body, thats why they hang. underpants are bad for fertility. cavemen(sic) didn't wear underwear.



Actually the balls are the hottest part of the body, and I mean that in a non gay way! The Croc hunter told me that, just before a Komoto Dragon went for his testacles. You can actually stop sperm production by putting your balls in cold water!

There's a muscle that controls how far the testes hang from the body. This regulates the temperature of the sperm.

My previous argument still stands.