1. how did just one man round up all the millions upon millions of animals?

2. how did just one man fit the animals on the boat?

3. is it really possible for just one man to build a boat that lare and all the cages for all the millions upon millions of animals?

4. what did he feed the animals? some of them only eat meat.

5. didn't other people have boats?

6. Noah and his family, presumable, was one skin colour, so where did all the other people of skin colour in this world come from?

7. what did the babies god drown ever do? original sin is sickening.

It's just a fucking story... I am a christian, but do not believe in like 99.9999999999% of the bible because the bible was written by man, and men, lie and decieve and do not have an all knowing memory of what occurences they have encountered. I also believe in other stuff, but I would say I am a christian.

^What he said.

In short, most of the Bible is myth and metaphor.

5. didn't other people have boats?

God probably killed those people too.

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quote:Originally posted by Q777:

5. didn't other people have boats?

God probably killed those people too.



There's no "probably" about it. The Bible makes it clear that God smote all men (sans Noah and his good fundamentalist family).

quote:Originally posted by Overman:

didn't other people have boats?

Only magic boats float in magic water.

quote:Originally posted by Viraljimmy:

Only magic boats float in magic water.

That's the best explanation I've heard yet.

If you want to believe this stuff, all you have to do is make your mind incredibly infantile. Wheeee! I love Jesus! Yippppeeeee!!!

quote:Originally posted by Vargv:

It's just a fucking story... I am a christian, but do not believe in like 99.9999999999% of the bible because the bible was written by man, and men, lie and decieve and do not have an all knowing memory of what occurences they have encountered. I also believe in other stuff, but I would say I am a christian.

If you don't believe in "word of god" (aka Bible) than you definately are not Christian...

quote:Originally posted by ohhi:

If you don't believe in "word of god" (aka Bible) than you definately are not Christian...





The bible is not the word of god, it is the word of man under the influence of God. I do believe a lot of stuff in the bible, but stories are just that, stories.

quote:Originally posted by Overman:

1. how did just one man round up all the millions upon millions of animals?

2. how did just one man fit the animals on the boat?

3. is it really possible for just one man to build a boat that lare and all the cages for all the millions upon millions of animals?

4. what did he feed the animals? some of them only eat meat.

5. didn't other people have boats?

6. Noah and his family, presumable, was one skin colour, so where did all the other people of skin colour in this world come from?

7. what did the babies god drown ever do? original sin is sickening.

You can't shake our faith! http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif) You're obviously evil and in cahoots with Satan!

quote:Originally posted by Vargv:



The bible is not the word of god, it is the word of man under the influence of God. I do believe a lot of stuff in the bible, but stories are just that, stories.

You know, there are, other religions with stories too: Maybe you should look into those?

I don't believe the ENTIRE WORLD was flooded but a small region in which Nu (Noah) was present (maybe to those people it was like their entire world). He saved the animals in the area, lets say the rest ran away. Also I don't think that rain did it as much as I think water came from underneath the land and gushed up causing major and instant trouble that no one expected or had prepared for. Also I hate that they say Noah got drunk and naked and did his daughter.

Here is my version of the story:

A long long time ago, in ancient days, pre babylon even, there was a community of humans. They were ruled by chiefs. The people of the community lived life, did what they did, and didn't believe in many Gods really, just believed in life and then death.

Among the people was a man named Nu and one day inspiration struck him and his mind became clear and he began a communication with God who was sending him a message, to warn the people of an awful day when they will be raised from the dead and judged for their actions, punished for their ill deeds.

Nu was told by this inspiration coming through him that there is One God to which worship should be directed. Nu went to the people to tell them the message. They thought he had gone insane, they said "What? When we're dust and bones we'll be raised up again?" Only a few listened to Nu, but most disbelieved. They said "If we are to be punished, then bring it on!" So Nu left the crowds saddened.

As Nu spoke to the God who was giving him the message, telling of their disbelief, he recieved another message: A warning of destruction and instructions on how to survive. Nu was to build a boat to house those who believe and the animals of the region in pairs. Nu did as he was told, compelled by the inspiring voice coming through him in his mind, though perhaps even he doubted his sanity at times, but he was one who believed.

As he began and continued the contruction of his boat, the Chiefs walking by laughed at the sight, a boat in the middle of nowhere with no water near, they had confirmed in their mind that Nu had really gone mad. Nu tried to warn them, but they only laughed and walked away, so he continued to build his large ship, and upon its completion, he brought all the animals he could, in pairs and put them on the ship, boarding it himself.

Sitting on board with the animals and those who believed Nu and in the God of Nu, they waited. Suddenly, without warning signs, the ground underneath opened up, cracks, and gushing from them hot water from the Earth. The people wondered at this and began to fear. The gushin was so rapid that up lifted the boat of Nu, and Nu, amazed and thankful watched, but saddened, he witnessed the hot water consume the people, they could not even reach them, but they tried to escape the water under them, some ran to high ground.

Nu suddenly saw his son among those running, Nu cried out for his son to come onto the boat, but his son was not of those who believed so his son ran up a hill saying that the height will save him, but the water continued to rise. Nu prayed for his son to be saved, but the inspired response came that his son was among those who disbelieve. The water rose and overtook the hill and his son was killed. Nu horrified and saddened witnessed the death of his son but understood that his prayer can not save another who does not pray for themselves or believe.

All the people were dead, and floating away the flood remained for a time, and then began to recede, and finally dried out. Nu found himself on a mountain, mount Judi, and began a new community of people from there. He lived for almost 1000 years and oversaw the guidance of his people until his death.

Yes, but the bible clearly states God flooded the whole world, but, if only part of the world was flooded, then the bible is a lie.

quote:Originally posted by Overman:

Yes, but the bible clearly states God flooded the whole world, but, if only part of the world was flooded, then the bible is a lie.

The bible does lie alot.

http://www.trustbible.com/ark.htm Here is the ARK! But its not on Mt Ararat as the Bible says, but at Mt. Judi like the Qur'an says.

So there was a flood in one part of the world, not the whole world, and a man save some animals, not all, and survived the flood in the area… and some religious texts decided to take this event and turn it into a myth where god flooded the whole world(or what they, at the time, believed to be the whole world) and Noah built an Ark big enough for every single fucking animal… that’s not impressive in the least.

quote:Originally posted by Overman:

So there was a flood in one part of the world, not the whole world, and a man save some animals, not all, and survived the flood in the area… and some religious texts decided to take this event and turn it into a myth where god flooded the whole world(or what they, at the time, believed to be the whole world) and Noah built an Ark big enough for every single fucking animal… that’s not impressive in the least.

The only impressive part is the supposed message of Noah to the people before the flood occured. Its a popular story for its quality of preparing ahead of time while others laugh which appears in other fables too.