you can beleive what you want,I'm just giving info these subjects.

psychics: merely mentally talented people. We all have the ability to sense others, speak with spirits etc... its just never practiced and is neglected from day one.

kinetics(those who move things like wind,objects,fire with the mind): same as above

magick(no this is not a mispelling, there is a seperate definition of magic and magick,magic being stage tricks,magick being spell and such): merely humans asking higher forces to use forces in specific ways

demons:beings from a lower astral plane

"angels","guardians" etc...: beings from the higher astral planes

possesions(eg. exorsism of emily rose): demons cant come into this plane, they use vessels of sorts like humans,objects,whtever

vampires: NOTHING LIKE THE MOVIES SAY. they can go into the sunlight, they are just slightly more sensitive to it. they are not repulsed by anything like garlic,(I love it on bread by the way http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)) roses, crosses etc...they can cross running water, the list goes on but to make it short THEY ARE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS. They just need different things than we do. Sometimes its blood in which case these are sanguivores which seem to lack the nutrients of normal blood when they reach 17-25 thus why they drink blood, and sometimes its psionic energy, they just need more than we do. They tend to heal faster then normal people, and act on instinct and reflex more efficiantly than humans do today.(eg. car is about to hit a normal person and a vamp, the vamp will almost always move first) They are sometimes stonger and have better senses. All in all they are normal people whos senses are as good as a more natural human (eg. indian tribes) and needs more than normal people do.



vampire slayers: bullshit kidiots who want attention. anyone who just goes around murdering vampires and thinks hes doing the will of "god" is watching WAAAY too much buffy and is in actuality killing human beings. Vampires are just like normal people(but normal people can be serial killers and rapists so that doesnt say much).

I will not touch on other such things like bigfoot and loch ness because it has nothing to do with this forum. Say what you will, debuff what you want, flame if you must. But to those religious types GO AND PRAY TO YOUR LITTLE STATUES YOU WEAK MINDED HIPOCRITS!!! I neither pray nor bow to some figure. I bid thee good day.

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Vampire slayers?

Since when?

Personally I think you come across as a bit of a kidiot yourself.

Jesus christ, here we go with the psionics again... Grow up, kid. Face reality- psionics (along with probably everything else you talked about)does NOT exist. And whatever you do, do not try to tell me that psi is bioelectric energy or something equally retarded. And vampires? My god... Sorry to be a bastard about it but you really need to get real.

Are you going to show a wealth of falsifiable evidence to back up your claims? You must have some, since you’re so sure that what you’re saying is true.

quote:Originally posted by Raw_Power:

Are you going to show a wealth of falsifiable evidence to back up your claims? You must have some, since you’re so sure that what you’re saying is true.

I really have started to hate people requesting evidence from kids.

"Mommy Mommy, look I drew a dragon! I saw it in the clouds!"

"I NEED A WEALTH OF FALSIFIABLE EVIDENCE AND RAW DATA IN ORDER TO BELIEVE THAT, OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST CRAPPING ME HONEY CAKES!"

"*cries*"

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

I really have started to hate people requesting evidence from kids.



There's a difference between a kid having an overactive imagination and his parent believing the tall-tale they've said, and someone actually claiming that the supernatural is possible. It appears you're incapable of grasping that subtle difference.

In any case, we already know you're allergic to evidence so you don't have to keep repeating that; it was blatantly obvious from the utter lack of any evidence in those rants of yours.

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

There's a difference between a kid having an overactive imagination and his parent believing the tall-tale they've said, and someone actually claiming that the supernatural is possible. It appears you're incapable of grasping that subtle difference.

In any case, we already know you're allergic to evidence so you don't have to keep repeating that; it was blatantly obvious from the utter lack of any evidence in those rants of yours.

Well you know what I'd say "Talk to the hand cause the hand is the evidence" Not in its construction but in the fact that it exists. Everything is Evidence.

Its not that I'm allergic to Evidence, its just that I don't understand the question no matter how many times it is asked, maybe you could ask it differently.

I don't understand what Evidence I can give that isn't already apparent for my statements.

I state that There is no God worthy of being called a God that can appear as a singular form WITHIN Reality. But that This Reality and All Realities and possibilities exist within One. I call the One, God, or Ultimate Reality, it is just a word for the most supreme thing which has always existed and which all things exist within.

My explanation is that Something can not exist within Nothing, nor can Nothing have anything occur, nor can something come from Nothing.

In my belief there was never a time of Nothing but that there was always this one thing in which all possibilities (infinite) play out forever and always have.

Most say why should we call it God? I say because there is no God but that is the most powerful thing in which all people are dependant on.

They ask if it has any sense. I say that it is what all senses belong to.

So then people say "what should we do about it?"

There is nothing one can do about it but I suggest one understanding it to what degree they can, and understanding the basic idea, to humble themselves, because we are all part of one thing, made of one thing.

To meditate at times and let it come over you, to find peace in it.

quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:



ts not that I'm allergic to Evidence, its just that I don't understand the question no matter how many times it is asked, maybe you could ask it differently.

I don't understand what Evidence I can give that isn't already apparent for my statements.



It's not about you not understanding the question; you only need to understand what you say, in order to provide evidence of what you say. Or is it that you don't even understand the things that come out of your mouth?

If you want me to point out what you need evidence for, I'd be glad to. Here:

1. "My explanation is that Something can not exist within Nothing, nor can Nothing have anything occur, nor can something come from Nothing."

You have no evidence to suggest any of that, especially the last statement.



2. "In my belief there was never a time of Nothing but that there was always this one thing in which all possibilities (infinite) play out forever and always have."

Again, you have not provided evidence to suggest any of that.

3. You've repeatedly said that whatever we can think of exists in reality. You've never provided evidence to substantiate that, and more importantly, when it has been pointed out to you how that ends up refuting your idea, you ignore it.

There are more statements that need substantiating, but deal with those first.

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Although alot of that stuff sounds stupid (and probably is) don't rule anything out. Someone posted this vid a while back in I found it on the web: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxEujAOWntM

I agree with, or at least believe in, everything the OP "defined," except for the vampires and vamp hunters shit... and possessions.

Sounds hypocritical, but there are no vampires. Crazy-talk. There are people who hear the description of vamps and wanna be that, or wanna BELIEVE they ARE that, but they're not. Vamps aren't born, or made, they're imagined.

Also, I don't believe that a person's body can be taken over by another consciousness, be it an angel speaking through a person, or a demon using the shell. The body has a connection with a person's soul, and only that one soul can use the body.

I imagine there's like a... fuck... a ... sigil or something invisible on/in/around the body, marking it for one and only one soul. And a little bit, the identification part, of the soul is in that, always, until death. At death, a full death, not a NDE, the soul gets freed of the body's weight to this world, and the body can no longer function. While the body is alive, and working for that one soul, no other soul/consciousness can have control of it (kinda like how two things can't be in the exact same place at the same time.. the soul's marker can't be removed or changed, and the soul is always connected, and can't be "kicked out").

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quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:



Its not that I'm allergic to Evidence...

Not replying to the thread isn't helping you to show how you aren't allergic to evidence...



Bump.

do you have any allergies Abrahim?

if you are allergic to anything you are allergic to evidence by your definition that everything is evidence

has anyone noticed yet that he said vamp slayers WERENT real? everything else is all a matter of what you want to beleive, I think he just wanted to make you people mad. I personally beleive vampire are real, but as he said, are nothing like they are in movies, just normal people that have a strange need.

I believe like many others that evidence is in order here. You can never simply claim truth, you have to back it up with that very falsifiable evidence mentioned earlier. Thank you for you skeptics, though sometimes you can be annoying haha at least you keep the truth in mind, I admire that.