wells lets assume darwins theory is correct that we did evolve from apes which races do you think is more primitive and evolved, i personally think lebos r the least as they have the most hair and is the lowest academically rated with the largest reproductive organs while asian have the least hair, are rated the highest academically and have the smallest reproductive organs, this is from a general perspective and is at not point attempting to be racist and steriotypin lebos or asians or any other races.

why does having smaller reproductive organs make you superiour, apes have pinner dicks compared to humans

No race of humans is more "primitve" than any other... we've all be evolving for the same amount of time.

It won't matter until a race is unable to successfully mate with another, then that'll be sufficient adaptation for a new species, one that can legitimately be compared to other races.

ahh u guys sound reasonable

uh, if theres no differences in the races, why do blacks still have a semian shelf? why are other bodyparts similar to apes in build and muscularity?

even middle class blacks trail far behind whites and asians in tests.

lets face it, the difference is more than skin deep.

Gimme a white dude and I'll beat him in a test.

SAT's were high

Grades were awesome

Intellect is up there

This spigger'll beat any cracker.

quote:Originally posted by Nihilist:

uh, if theres no differences in the races, why do blacks still have a semian shelf? why are other bodyparts similar to apes in build and muscularity?

even middle class blacks trail far behind whites and asians in tests.

lets face it, the difference is more than skin deep.

My guess is that your test scores are nothing to brag about.

I guess its not really the RACE that affects the intelligence but more of the CULTURE

Asians tend to pride themselves to studying, hence, a large number become academically successful. Negroes however, tend to do the opposite.

The brain capacity of varying races i think varies too little to be actually a genetic problem

quote:Originally posted by Merlinman2005:

Gimme a white dude and I'll beat him in a test.

SAT's were high

Grades were awesome

Intellect is up there

This spigger'll beat any cracker.

It is reflective of your primitive intelligence for you to claim yourself better than the entireity of caucasians.

I've never encountered even a mildly intelligence mexican, but I still wouldn't be so stupid as to claim that I could beat any among them.

quote:Originally posted by Mantikore:

I guess its not really the RACE that affects the intelligence but more of the CULTURE

Asians tend to pride themselves to studying, hence, a large number become academically successful. Negroes however, tend to do the opposite.

The brain capacity of varying races i think varies too little to be actually a genetic problem

I think you really hit the nail on the head, so to speak.

asians have been studying academics for thousands of years though, maybe smart parents have smart parents, black people still arent educated in there homeland yet

and we all know why there skin is black, not because there closer to apes, but because they've been living in on of th hottest parts of the planet forever, therofor there parents get tanned DARK, then ovre a 1000 years they just get born already tanned

it has to do with surroundings. Humans want to fit in. Alot of asians are smart, so others study to be smart too. In America being smart means you get called a nerd, so kids don't do as well.

Einstein wasn't asian. Stephen Hawking isn't asian. George Washington Carver isn't white.

quote:Originally posted by Iam:

It is reflective of your primitive intelligence for you to claim yourself better than the entireity of caucasians.

I've never encountered even a mildly intelligence mexican, but I still wouldn't be so stupid as to claim that I could beat any among them.

You don't even know the meaning of primitive, dude. Stop using words for the image value.

quote:Originally posted by Mantikore:

I guess its not really the RACE that affects the intelligence but more of the CULTURE

Asians tend to pride themselves to studying, hence, a large number become academically successful. Negroes however, tend to do the opposite.

The brain capacity of varying races i think varies too little to be actually a genetic problem

Biologically speaking, we are the HUMAN RACE, there are no races within the HUMAN RACE. Check online for more.

Superiority lies in the longevity of a race

...one could presume that having so many separate races and religions in general terms most believe in a form of existence after there own ending, therefore religion has pursuit, a natural instinct in some to be above in the natural chain and dismissed by others that one race is superior or to put in another way, in control; superior.

To determine superiority one would have to ask if by choice one could over power another and as has been shown in the past in order to remove them from existence.

There are few who can last long enough to stop anarchy:

• due largely to the removal of natural fossils in the use of technology and in turn the breakdown in structure in each society – in my opinion not only will there be astronomical changes in climate but the war and the removal of infrastructure. http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)



The drive behind a will to create a clear superior divide between the races, as is, is taking into account religion, unnatural. It not in animals. (?)





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Id say black people are the least evovled. smart black people come few and far between, im sorry. i personally have never met an intelligent black person in my life except for maybe 1 or 2 at the most. i base my opinions off that and the fact that they have the wide noses like a gorilla or monkey or somethin. academically oriental people have the highest scores while the black people are suckin the concrete at the bottom.

btw, im not sayin all black people are stupid, just the majority of them are less intelligent than most. and im not exactly sayin that the asians are the smartest, but in general, looking at them as one group against all other races they do come out on top as much as smarts are concerned.

im white and fuckin proud of it. i wouldnt want to be anything other than that.

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quote:Originally posted by Real.PUA:

No race of humans is more "primitve" than any other... we've all be evolving for the same amount of time.

And am I the only one who doesn't know what a "lebo" is? Is that short for Lebonese? And the size of your reproductive organs doesn't make you superior. I don't even know where you got that. It was so out of left field

Cheers,

Lost

Ok dicks, an important fact follows....

Evolution is not a scalar quantity.

The only consistant quantity in evolution is fitness-basically the ablity to breed and maintain your offspring.

This is not inteligence, or dick size.

So, as you are all so intelligent, and have less children than the average black dude in africa, would that not make intelligence a sign of being less fit, or as you seam to put it, less evolved?

Of course not, dicks.

times have changed, being physically fit doesn't matter as much as it did before.

people in the western world used to have alot of kids because there was a good chance that almost all of them would die. now that chance is very very small so we don't need as much kids.

so what if someone can lift 500lbs, he could go broke if he didn't have a job and would be less apealing to women, and thus his ability to breed and maintain offspring would be slim to none. this makes intellegence the new fitness and ability to breed and maintain offspring, because he needs to be smart to keep a job to make enough money to support himself and, if he had any, his family

if an individual has a larger dick then his sperm has a better chance to get to the egg. that was in my introduction to anatomy class.

so when did this debate start talking about evolution?

what is a lebo?

and again it has to do with kids around them. since kids always want to fit in they act a certain way. asian kids probably get better test scores because other kids do so they all study. kids in america get called nerds and are bullied if they do well in school so they don't do so well, thus why usually "social outcasts" are the ones that get the best test scores

no race is superior because we all have the same potential

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I don't think this has anything to do with this forum.

quote:Originally posted by Merlinman2005:

It won't matter until a race is unable to successfully mate with another, then that'll be sufficient adaptation for a new species, one that can legitimately be compared to other races.

That is the logical responce though, make sure you don't mistake slight genetic diversity as a different species. Each has slight differences, this is what will keep our race alive and continue evolution.

Edit: also the poster above me is completely correct although money is not always (rarely?) a sign of intellegence, and you have to take into account illegiment children and attractive people who marry rich people for money.

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quote:Originally posted by Aft3r ImaGe:

I don't think this has anything to do with this forum.

That is the logical responce though, make sure you don't mistake slight genetic diversity as a different species. Each has slight differences, this is what will keep our race alive and continue evolution.

Edit: also the poster above me is completely correct although money is not always (rarely?) a sign of intellegence, and you have to take into account illegiment children and attractive people who marry rich people for money.





Money is nothing other than a marker of this world.. A material thing.

You can try to argue that it has worked itself into our evolution, but it hasn't.. it's something we've worked to make important, but it itself doesn't affect anything.

i sadi something about money?

wells come to think of it black people do look more like apes then lebos but then again lebos are still more hairy, and as we all know hair is a unless feature as it serves no purpose to humans, eventually we will all be hairless as we become even more evolved, we will become smaller, more intellegent,weaker physically, everything that thats unlike an ape, creating a new species unlike the one we are now homo sapien sapien sapien (even smarter smart humans)

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I don't think (if the upcoming consciousness shift wasn't gonna happen) that we're gonna physically evolve any more. Pretty much at all.

Technology (take eyeglasses for example) has allowed people with defects (poor eyesight) to live easily, and gotten rid of survival of the fittest.

What exactly defines a race? If there is anything that can divide people into 'races', are those differences meaningful or arbitrary? Are the characteristics that divide people into races exclusive to that 'race'?

quote:Originally posted by The_Big_Beef:

Id say black people are the least evovled. smart black people come few and far between, im sorry. i personally have never met an intelligent black person in my life except for maybe 1 or 2 at the most. i base my opinions off that and the fact that they have the wide noses like a gorilla or monkey or somethin. academically oriental people have the highest scores while the black people are suckin the concrete at the bottom.

btw, im not sayin all black people are stupid, just the majority of them are less intelligent than most. and im not exactly sayin that the asians are the smartest, but in general, looking at them as one group against all other races they do come out on top as much as smarts are concerned.

im white and fuckin proud of it. i wouldnt want to be anything other than that.



I think the dumbing down of African Americans has everything to do with mainstream Hip Hop culture and nothing to do with race.

quote:Originally posted by Real.PUA:

No race of humans is more "primitve" than any other... we've all be evolving for the same amount of time.

Yep and if you check out some stuff on the internet you'll find there is actually no such thing as a "race" within humans but there is only the "human race" biologically speaking.

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Well guys, I believe that all races of human are superior. We are just adapted to different environments. I mean think about it, black people evolved with dark skin and feet that allowed for fast sprinting. This has benefits in places like Africa where the sun is brutal and you need to catch prey on a wide open plain. Caucasians, on the other hand, have light skin so that they can absorb more sunlight in colder regions like North america and Scandinavia. Dark skin and fast running would be pointless on a glacier, and light skin would cause recurrent cancer in Africa. So wouldn't it be safe to say, therefore, that humans are superior within their adapted environment?

Skin color and "race" isn't really a dividing factor because we still belong to the same species and share all of our DNA. The definition of "species" is a group of organisms that can sexually reproduce to bear fertile offspring. Of course, their are mulattos with children, so there you have it.

Here's another thing. Medicine is going to royally fuck us over.... Here's why, everybody is going to be able to be "cured" by modern medicine in the future, enabling those of us with weaker immune systems to reproduce and pass on their genes. That will completely eliminate the genetic need for an effective immune system and will thus render us royally fucked if a disease comes along that we can't develop a cure for. Mmmm... Delightful.

quote:Originally posted by ADogg:

Here's another thing. Medicine is going to royally fuck us over.... Here's why, everybody is going to be able to be "cured" by modern medicine in the future, enabling those of us with weaker immune systems to reproduce and pass on their genes. That will completely eliminate the genetic need for an effective immune system and will thus render us royally fucked if a disease comes along that we can't develop a cure for. Mmmm... Delightful.

grr triple post

if you get a disease even if you are "cured" by medicine your immune system still gets stronger because you had the disease.

quote:Originally posted by ADogg:

Skin color and "race" isn't really a dividing factor because we still belong to the same species and share all of our DNA. The definition of "species" is a group of organisms that can sexually reproduce to bear fertile offspring. Of course, their are mulattos with children, so there you have it.

Literally, there is no such thing as a race within the Human Race. You can read about it online, there are no races within the human race, its one human race.

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Moron.

A pitbull is a race of dog.

A dalmatian is another race of dog.

Whites are a race of humans.

Blacks are a race of humans.

See ? Your whole "one race of humans" is bullshit for over sensitive PC idiots.

quote:Originally posted by AionTheDemon:

Moron.

A pitbull is a race of dog.

A dalmatian is another race of dog.

Whites are a race of humans.

Blacks are a race of humans.

See ? Your whole "one race of humans" is bullshit for over sensitive PC idiots.

a pit bull and dalmation are significantly genetically different, they are different species

quote:Originally posted by Graemy:

a pit bull and dalmation are significantly genetically different, they are different species

No

All dogs, wolves and coyotes are the same species if you use the accepted definition "able to produce fertile offspring". You can't tell a wolf from a dog with a DNA test so the is no way you can tell a dalmation from a pitbull. I think the only way you could determine race from DNA tests in humans would be if you got lucky and found a subject with a trait like sickle cell or tay sachs that shows up more frequently in one race, far from definitive.

It is a very well known fact that inteligence in a hertitable trait. It is just not politicaly corect to apply it to whole races.

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only if you use that definition though

you can tell the difference between a pitbull and dalmation genetically. they are significantly different enough to be classified as different species and they are, they are different sub-species

quote:Well guys, I believe that all races of human are superior. We are just adapted to different environments. I mean think about it, black people evolved with dark skin and feet that allowed for fast sprinting. This has benefits in places like Africa where the sun is brutal and you need to catch prey on a wide open plain. Caucasians, on the other hand, have light skin so that they can absorb more sunlight in colder regions like North america and Scandinavia. Dark skin and fast running would be pointless on a glacier, and light skin would cause recurrent cancer in Africa. So wouldn't it be safe to say, therefore, that humans are superior within their adapted environment?

I'm pretty sure that their sprinting ability has little to do with their feet.

And in your skin what protects you from the harm of the sun the more is the thickness and strength of your skin. Melanin serves as a balancing factor in the body rather then a 'protective coating'.

Whites are not native to north america. Native americans are the closest to a people who adapted to the climate and conditions there, but only a little bit, because they came from mongolia up through russia and across an ice bridge into america fairly recently.

quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:

I think the only way you could determine race from DNA tests in humans would be if you got lucky and found a subject with a trait like sickle cell or tay sachs that shows up more frequently in one race, far from definitive.



Race can be determined by DNA test. For instance it is possible to tell where your genes match up to - to nigeria, the ukraine or whatever - or to match them up to a particular tribe. There are many different genes and I'm sure there would be some genes that pertain to all caucasoids for instance just as a matter of common history. Or, you might be able to figure out what appearance your genes determine, whether they determine the facial and skeletal structure of a caucasian or an east asian etc.



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quote:you can tell the difference between a pitbull and dalmation genetically. they are significantly different enough to be classified as different species and they are, they are different sub-species

A housecat and a lion are genetically more similar to one and other then say, a sub-saharan african and a european.

i havnt really read anything here, so sorry if i say somthing you already did.

I dont think a race can be better then another untill you decide what better is. Is having a high IQ better, or is having a beutiful curvy body with blonde shimmering hair, or is being bulky fat and able to retain heat?

All races are different. Some are better at things then others. But Nazi-like groups who claim to be better are missing the point entirly.

Not only is that just their own self-biased opinion, but if they were really trying to improove efficiancy and human advancement, then they wouldnt try to fillter us down to one group, but would try to uilize us all to the best of our abilities.

the whole reason we have different abilities in the first place is because of our environments. Humanity did that on its own thousands of years ago. The people who catergorize us are missing the point that our differences is what makes us strong.

besides, different people arnt really that much differnt anyways. We can all have sex and produce working offspring. Its not like mules or anything.

"A housecat and a lion are genetically more similar to one and other then say, a sub-saharan african and a european."

Bullshit. Race accounts for less than 5% of genetic difference among humans.

I'd bet chimps are closer to humans than housecats are to lions genetically, so suck my balls.

I've just figured it out. The people with the most guns wins...your all idiots

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lou Reed:

[B]Superiority lies in the longevity of a race

...one could presume that having so many separate races and religions in general terms most believe in a form of existence after there own ending, therefore religion has pursuit, a natural instinct in some to be above in the natural chain and dismissed by others that one race is superior or to put in another way, in control; superior.

To determine superiority one would have to ask if by choice one could over power another and as has been shown in the past in order to remove them from existence.



• A suggestive conclusion is anarchy:

• due largely to the removal of natural fossils in the use of technology and in turn the breakdown in structure in each society – in my opinion not only will there be astronomical changes in climate but the war and the removal of infrastructure. http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)



This is absolute actuality:

• The drive behind a will to create a clear superior divide between the races, as is, is taking into account religion, unnatural.

• It is not in animals. (?)

• It is certainly ego driven rather than natural facility

quote:Originally posted by shuu:

A housecat and a lion are genetically more similar to one and other then say, a sub-saharan african and a european.

Proof?

Don't know enough biology or general science to comment on the definition of 'race' in terms of 'breed' (as in dalmations and pit bulls) or 'species'.

However, do know enough to point out that using academic achievement or intelligence as a basis of evolution is suspect due to the inherent cultural and subject bias of all known intelligence tests. That is, the questions are geared specifically towards a certain sector of society, assuming certain prerequisites in the areas of general knowledge, education, etc., and concentrate on only singular intelligences such as mathematics or language. This problem is less pronounced than it used to be, but no reputable scientific body will / can guarantee that any intelligence test they might draw up will objectively and empirically quantify intelligence without falling to these biases.

For the interest of anyone who's interested, human males have the largest penis size relative to body weight of any mammal. [Insert disbelieving snorts from various women here.]

the reason why asians are so smart is because we are perfectionists. The samurais and wariors practiced all night and day. The japanese work nonstop and they find it normal. Once we find an interest we must perfect it or it bugs us nonstop.

Some thought inducing facts

A person with very efficant muscles has a (large) advantage over a person with less efficant muscles if it came to a straight fight between them, a chase after pray or even some sort of industrial task, making a person with more efficant mucsles clearly better than a person with less efficant muscles.

However... that same advanced person would die in very short of order when exposed to a cold enviroment, as his efficant muscles would not produce the heat required to stay alive. And then the guy with less efficant muscles would be lathargic as hell in hot enviroments, decreasing his chances of survival.

And then the guy with less efficant muscles, and a cold resistant body, would also be able to absorb attack better, because his muscles would have to be bigger for him to preform the same tasks as the efficant guy (think huge vikings with axe's).

This ablity to absorb damage would help him in a straight fight, possably enough to offset the disadvantage of his less efficant muscles... and then his muscles would slow him down a bit... and he would need to eat more... but he could injest toxins with less effect, and survive illness more easily...

And all because of his less efficant muscles.

Evolution is complicated.

"Let’s begin with science. From a biological standpoint, there is no such thing as race. In 1990, several scientists who were involved in the Human Genome Project began noticing something very peculiar in the makeup of human genes. What they found is that any two people of the same gender are 99.9% genetically the same, regardless of the color of their skin or ethnicity. Therefore, it is a misnomer for people to be classified as members of different races. We all comprise only one race -- the human race."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genome_Project

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_race

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

people adapted to different environments. Thats all.

The smartest? I belive a certain middle eastern race scores the highest average on IQ tests, though i forget which one...i think its some jewish people or somthing...

but yeah, people are just different. Thats like saying we're etter then animals...just different.

We are all pretty closely related. Most genetic differences are simple adaptations such as light skin to absorb more sun in the northern latitudes or lactase enzymes to drink milk, etc.

Our intelligence has allowed us to ignore most differences. Thus given equal access to technology all minor changes since we left africa disappear.