So I've been doing some really hardcore interpretations of the Bible lately, deciding if Christians are so uptight about saying it's true, then maybe some information in it could correlate with my religious beliefs, beliefs which I can already find some mentioning of certain important points loctated in the Book (however that sentence is supposed to be structured... whatever).

Thinking about the part where God made man.. He made us "in His image," and most people take this to mean we either look like Him, or we have some of His qualities. But I thought about it a different way.

What if we are IN His image, inside of His Self. Almost like what Abrahim says about Reality being God, but kinda different, since it's our consciousnesses that are contained. It has been my belief that we are all parts of a larger, Universal consciousness. That our bodies are the source of our separation, as well as serving as our external "teachers," or machines designed to help us experience one another.

It's not bullshit, either. You just have to believe that we're connected, that each one of our consciousnesses is wired into everyone else's. Some of us already know this, but others cannot grasp the fact that the world doesn't end with the physical.

Whatcha think?

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Well there is a spiritual realm. We are not all interconnected but once we die we will see things much clearer. We are connected in the sense that we all come from the creator and the holy catholic Church is one in Christ. We are connected in this way indeed. The reason for this connection is the death and ressurection of Jesus, true God and true man. O and image is meant as portrayal or mirrored, it does not say In myself, so dont go too far with that one. But in refering to the spiritual kingdom you are mildly accurate if not a little misdirected.

haha you think it's me who's misdirected. We ARE connected that's the whole point. Things like telepathy and astral travel prove this (which is why you have to accept.) as well as my experiences. The events of the past, namely a guy dying on a cross wouldn't do anything that our Creation wouldn't do, in the way of us being "connected" in the way you describe.

And perhaps the reason it did't say "in myself" because that would be in God, in the Whole of God, instead of just the image portion, without the abilities, knowledge, and natural grace that would come with being part of a God's makeup. Being in the image is being in the "projection" of Him, the "part you can see."

Actually the correct quote is "in OUR image", because the bible is a plaguerized work from Sumerian text and dealt with multiple dieties.

lol dear 4sight you have grasped the trinity without even realizing, bravo

As for the past not mattering. Jesus Christ is the true God and lord of all. We are all connected as the church. What you may have experienced is not as important as what really happened, which is the ressurection. And what are you talking about our Creation wouldnt do? lol and yes we were in the image of God, we have been corrupted since then. But again, in the image is in the likeness of God, not being God in any way. And we have all been made by God and therefore are connected in that fact, but not in the literal sense.

Exactly my point. You're thinking metaphorically, that we're connected because wome guy's death lumped us into a group. I'm referring to a literal connection between us all.

And the whole "in the image is in the likeness of God..." Uh huh. Now change "in" to "inside" and you will see what I'm talking about.

quote:Originally posted by Truth is all:

lol dear 4sight you have grasped the trinity without even realizing, bravo

No, it's not the trinity, it's stolen work from the Sumerian text that dealt with polytheistic writings that were stolen and twisted to form the unoriginal work that is the Bible.

4sight,

Proof my friend, proof, your oppinion means absolutely nothing in here, so I want cited references.

lol no not inside, stop trying to add to it. Yes we are linked by the "guy who died on the cross" that is my Lord Jesus Christ.

quote:Originally posted by Truth is all:

lol no not inside, stop trying to add to it. Yes we are linked by the "guy who died on the cross" that is my Lord Jesus Christ.

WTF "add it?" I'm telling you.

Reread the first post. Like I said, you have to accept this fact in order to get the larger one. Apparently you don't, so you won't, so... whatever.

The arrogance of the Christians never ceases to amaze.

Making the claim that the Holy Trinity (the link between God and Jesus Christ) existed even before the time of Christ's birth. Certainly the concept of making man "in our image" would have nothing to do with the Hebrews being exposed to another civilization's polytheistic accounts of history, prior to writing their own. It MUST be referring to Christ as part of the 'Holy Trinity'. Nothing like twisting, mistranslating, and re-interpreting scripture to suit your needs.

As for the proof topic: I find it hilarious when Bible thumpers, of all people, demand a reputable source for any information that may contradict their 'irrefutable' texts. It's impossible to persuade people who already believe themselves to have the power of an infallible deity on their side.

You want proof? Question your faith. Do a little unbiased research for a change. You may learn something.

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quote:Originally posted by Truth is all:

4sight,

Proof my friend, proof, your oppinion means absolutely nothing in here, so I want cited references. www.justfuckinggoogleit.com (http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com)

http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/sources/sumerian.htm

http://www .meta-reli gion.com/W orld_Relig ions/Ancie nt_religio ns/Mesopot amia/Epic_ of_gilgamesh/biblical_parallels_in_sumerian_l.htm

you guys need to stop eating those mushrooms you find in the forest

quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

you guys need to stop eating those mushrooms you find in the forest

But they show you the truth, dude.