http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch3-6.htm

There's a lot of scientific truths in the Qur'an that are extremely accurate, as explained here.

I don't see how such accuracy would have been possible 1400 years ago, without being some God like power behind it.

Can anyone rationally explain these truths?

http://www.magisociety.com/faithhealers.htm

Anyone can post a link on the internet. If your going to take something you find on a website for truth read this.

Or you could actually read the actual book.

quote:Originally posted by TheKillerMonkey:

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There's a lot of scientific truths in the Qur'an that are extremely accurate, as explained here.

I don't see how such accuracy would have been possible 1400 years ago, without being some God like power behind it.

Can anyone rationally explain these truths?

A discussion on this subject also appears in "The True Religion" and a little bit in "Interested in Islam? Ask Questions here!"

The Qur'an is one of my favorite books! I love that it includes scientific truths within the text, of which are only being proven in modern times.

The Qur'an claims that the words written are from God, or rather "inspired" which the Qur'an seems to indicate was a sort of posession of Muhammed which made him speak and memorize the words which were transcribed. The word inspired is often related to one simply thinking something but the way in which the Qur'an explains it is that when the Qur'an was coming down or through to Muhammed it was literally as if he was being spoken through, he was told not to even hasten to move his lips, that the words will come through him, which almost seems like a kind of posession. Anyway that's the Qur'an's explanation, that it was the words of God, coming through Muhammed by the messenger Gabriel.

Another explanation could be that Muhammed opened his mind through meditative thought and was flooded with information and truth and inspiration.

A non religious and non spiritual explanation is often that the information was out there or that Muhammed figured it out or made educated guesses, though he was not educated, could not read or write according to the Qur'an.

Some explain that he gained all his insight from his travels as a merchant, but the Qur'an never mentions he is a merchant, that information is from Hadiths, stories written about Muhammed several centuries after his death by people who didn't know anything much about him but were merely invented a history for a figure to which there was little to nothing known about or written about at the time he was living. The Qur'an never says that Muhammed was a merchant but does indicate he was an uneducated orphan who had no knowledge, could not read or write.

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http://www.islamawareness.net/Salah/yoga.html

Something else I just wanted to throw in. While Yoga currently takes over the West, Muslims have had their own form of Yoga for over 1400 years.

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I don't see how such accuracy would have been possible 1400 years ago, without being some God like power behind it.

Can anyone rationally explain these truths?

1. What accuracy? There is no accuracy. Describing an embryo as "chewed crap" isn't accurate by any reasonable definition.

2. These are statements that are being forced to fit scientific knowledge of today. Forced, because it there is no explicit connection in any of those; they are simply vague statements that can fit pretty much any interpretation we wish.

Moreover, these are the things science believes to be true now. What would Muslims have said if it had been pointed out, in the past when Science might not have believed what it does now? They would have dismissed it completely, or interpreted the passage in another way. What would Muslims do if in the future, Science changes it's opinion on any of these "scientific truths"? Again, the same thing would happen; they would dismiss it and/or interpret the passage in another way.

This alone shows the intellectual dishonesty surrounding this issue.

3. We can find similar "predictions" in other texts; ones that are much more compelling even. Democritus (as well as other Greek thinkers) described tiny spheres that made up matter. Many think that we has vindicated with the discovery of atoms.

If we take these 'scientific truths' in the Qur'an as evidence of the Qur'an being inspired by god (or the actual word of god), then surely we would be forced to take Democritus description as the word of the Greek Gods...



Guesses, coincidences, and vague statements being forced to fit 'scientific truths' is evidence of absolutely nothing.

Ok, at least 2 of them could be based on simple observation.

For have you not seen the clouds!

'scientific truth' is an oxymoron.

quote:Originally posted by Food:

'scientific truth' is an oxymoron.

biblical truth is for morons.