I've read a lot of these threads going in huge loops of "Who created God?" and "What created the universe?", so I'll ask a few questions because I'm not a very smart person and I can't figure these out. Scientists have proven that humans need to have an explanation for everything, so humans feel that everything has to start somewhere. My question is, why can't it just be? Why can't something just be there one second and not the other? Why can't the universe just exist?

Good questions. Hard to come up with good answers. It's been years since I read Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time", but he answers some of those questions and you would probably enjoy reading it.

Check this out:

http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/ask/a11425.html

I read most of that book for my english term paper in highschool, it's a good read- but be critical when taking in his theories.

It's more like everything is infinite. There was no one time when the universe began, rather a series of loops that recur eternally. Atleast that's my interpretation of things.

The real problem lies with the understanding of a singularity that could explain the start of the Universe.

Think of it this way (and I'm plagiarising someone/thing but I can't for the life of me remember who/where/what):

Imagine all the matter in the Universe at one point.

Now, you're almost certainly imagining a little tiny dot of a ball in the middle of a black background. Except it wouldn't be a ball, because it would all be at one point, so it couldn't have a 2d/3d shape. And you couldn't see it, because it wouldn't let light escape. And of course there is no background, because space is confined to the little non-ball.

And there is no time, because time is a construct of the Universe as we know it, and it is at a singularity. There is no before the singularity became the Universe, because there was no time. There was no before time, because "before" necessitates time.

These are just some of the problems that come with attempting to comprehend the explanations of the Universe. It quite simply is beyond comprehension and understanding.

The thing to remember in the "what created God?" discussion is that people are picking a point of non-contingence i.e. the first cause that had no other cause. It makes no sense, logically speaking, to introduce an extra variable unnecessarily. This means that it would be best to assume that the singularity was the non-contingent thing, and to introduce God is pointless as it is an unnecessary layer of probability (see Ockham's Razor and statistical maths).

quote:Originally posted by Bipolar Rocket:

I've read a lot of these threads going in huge loops of "Who created God?" and "What created the universe?", so I'll ask a few questions because I'm not a very smart person and I can't figure these out. Scientists have proven that humans need to have an explanation for everything, so humans feel that everything has to start somewhere. My question is, why can't it just be? Why can't something just be there one second and not the other? Why can't the universe just exist?

I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS NO BEGINNING AND THERE WILL BE NO END BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY THIS UNIVERSE WAS ALWAYS IN ITS CURRENT STATE: But rather that this universe has been expanding and eventually collapsing and re expanding since forever.

There is no such thing as a beginning or end for God, the infinite plain of knowledge, the all encompassing, there was also no beginning and there will be no end.

I believe that Within God(Ultimate Reality) are an infinite number of universes, realities, alternatives, possibilities and things innumerable and unending, that is not to say they are being manifested constantly but with God the infinite came all the infinite knowledge and possibilities.

Essentially there is nothing but God, there is nothing OUTSIDE of God, there is only God, there was God at our beginning, there will be God at our end, and again there will be God forever.

God is not a being within Reality or sitting in the sky, but God is what all Realities and Universes exist within, are made of, and are dependant on.

So to put it simply, this Universes beginning was 1 of an infinite number of beginnings of which have no originating point. Infinity goes in all directions and has no beginning or end.

That's nice. Of course it's under some doubt as to whether or not the Universe has enough mass to bounce, so steady state theory has perhaps equal probability. There's also the chance that the Universe will continually expand forever. Do you not think it illogical to pick one of these three beliefs so arbitrarily? Probably not since you're a rampant theist. But you should.