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stiletto
2006-08-25, 04:11
I just recently thought of what would happen if Jesus hadn't of been crucified. I mean it was just the out come of how they decided to kill/torture him. What if he'd just been decapitated, or hung? It's obvious the entire symbolism of chrstianity would completely change. I wouldn't have this cross around my neck, and churches cetainly wouldn't have them, there would be no crosses on the bibles, etc.

SOw hat do you guys thin it'd be like if jesus' demise didn't come from the crucifix. Would we have a symbol of his face being portraided everywhere, or would we just not have any type of symbol at all to represent it?

Martini
2006-08-25, 04:20
I think it would be pretty cool if instead of Christians wearing a cross on a chain with Jesus hanging on it, they wore a guillotine with a bucket underneath it and a long haired Jesus head tumbling in to it.

Graemy
2006-08-25, 04:37
the jesus arrow

ArgonPlasma2000
2006-08-25, 04:50
quote:Originally posted by Martini:

I think it would be pretty cool if instead of Christians wearing a cross on a chain with Jesus hanging on it, they wore a guillotine with a bucket underneath it and a long haired Jesus head tumbling in to it.

I loled.

Abrahim
2006-08-25, 05:38
According to the Qur'an, Jesus was not killed or crucified.

Martini
2006-08-25, 06:04
Why, Abrahim, why? This thread is about how Christianity might be different if Jesus were killed differently, according to Christian belief. Why must you bring Islam into every thread?

TJTay89
2006-08-25, 06:31
I think he should have been hung. Then instead of necklaces with a cross on them, they could just wear a piece of rope around their neck. Of course the reborn christans would wear the full hangmans noose and rope around their neck.

[This message has been edited by TJTay89 (edited 08-25-2006).]

Nightshade
2006-08-25, 06:43
I think if Jesus was not crucified the symbolism would revolve around statues of his image of when he was alive.

Instead of the cross as a necklace it would protray the head image of jesus with maybe a halo.

You know I have never seen a bible with a cross on it but I am sure they do exist. I think the bibles would have none of that symbolism at all.

SykoRob2005
2006-08-25, 06:54
Who the fuck cares. I mean Im sure he would of preferred a differnt way. BTW THERE IS NO GOD

jca2006
2006-08-25, 06:55
Did you know god gives the best bj?

TJTay89
2006-08-25, 07:23
quote:Originally posted by SykoRob2005:

Who the fuck cares. I mean Im sure he would of preferred a differnt way. BTW THERE IS NO GOD

He knew that he was going to get crucified, if he wanted to he could have fled. It was gods plan for him to die the way he did. Also if you cannot prove something, do not preach it as fact. While you may not believe in god, that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Next time say "By the way, I don't think god exists".

redzed
2006-08-25, 08:48
quote:Originally posted by stiletto:

SOw hat do you guys thin it'd be like if jesus' demise didn't come from the crucifix. Would we have a symbol of his face being portraided everywhere, or would we just not have any type of symbol at all to represent it?

Would not change much, it's what the symbol represents that matters. Socrates was condemned to die by an arbitrary system, drank the hemlock and died in a way that had a powerful effect on his followers. An effect that was the catalyst for great change in society, likewise Jesus.

Namaste http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Source
2006-08-25, 12:37
quote:Originally posted by TJTay89:

He knew that he was going to get crucified, if he wanted to he could have fled. It was gods plan for him to die the way he did. Also if you cannot prove something, do not preach it as fact. While you may not believe in god, that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Next time say "By the way, I don't think god exists".

Then you should have written "By the way, I think He knew that he was going to get crucified, if he wanted to he could have fled. It was gods plan for him to die the way he did".

anonymouslyaware
2006-08-25, 14:02
Nobody knows how he looks, right? So therefore you can't make a face, but then again, douche bags have. I would say Christianity would bullshit something up and surely make a symbol for him.

quote:Originally posted by Source:

Then you should have written "By the way, I think He knew that he was going to get crucified, if he wanted to he could have fled. It was gods plan for him to die the way he did".

Owned.



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TJTay89
2006-08-25, 21:09
quote:Originally posted by Source:

Then you should have written "By the way, I think He knew that he was going to get crucified, if he wanted to he could have fled. It was gods plan for him to die the way he did".

The only reason I didn't say it that way was because that was what I was told in church growing up, and therefore I learned it as fact. So I guess SykoRob2005 might have learned what he said as fact, but seeing as how the existence of God was never brought up, I didn't see the point in bringing it up in the topic. Now that it isn't 1:00 in the morning, and am fully rested, I don't really give a shit how anyone phrases anything. The main thing I hate is needless using of caps lock as it hurts my eyes to read... Anyway, I will stop being a speach whore, atleast until I get sleepy agian. http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif)

PerpetualBurn
2006-08-25, 21:13
quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

According to the Qur'an, Jesus was not killed or crucified.



I don't know if you realise this, but that doesn't make a shit's worth of difference to an already hypothetical situation.

Aft3r ImaGe
2006-08-25, 23:02
quote:Originally posted by TJTay89:

The only reason I didn't say it that way was because that was what I was told in church growing up, and therefore I learned it as fact.

It is not even close to being a fact. You don't learn something as fact, it can only be a fact when it is actually a fact. Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. A fact can be proven true or false. That is why god cannot be fact.

The_Big_Beef
2006-08-26, 00:06
You do know that the crucifix is an old torture device that was used before the time of jesus' death? so basically that "holy" cross that symbolizes christianity also symbolizes a means of torturing people.

Abrahim
2006-08-26, 00:09
quote:Originally posted by Martini:

Why, Abrahim, why? This thread is about how Christianity might be different if Jesus were killed differently, according to Christian belief. Why must you bring Islam into every thread?

Perfume.

Abrahim
2006-08-26, 12:59
quote:Originally posted by PerpetualBurn:



I don't know if you realise this, but that doesn't make a shit's worth of difference to an already hypothetical situation.

Just a little fact which might interest people who didn't know that.

stiletto
2006-08-26, 18:54
quote:Originally posted by The_Big_Beef:

You do know that the crucifix is an old torture device that was used before the time of jesus' death? so basically that "holy" cross that symbolizes christianity also symbolizes a means of torturing people.

yes yes, we all realize this, but let's get back on topic, shall we?

The_Big_Beef
2006-08-26, 20:00
quote:Originally posted by stiletto:

yes yes, we all realize this, but let's get back on topic, shall we?

Ok... if christ was not nailed to a cross then no you wouldnt be wearing the cross around your neck. you could try finding a symbol from some of these:

quote:The death penalty was also part of the Fourteenth Century B.C.'s Hittite Code; in the Seventh Century B.C.'s Draconian Code of Athens, which made death the only punishment for all crimes; and in the Fifth Century B.C.'s Roman Law of the Twelve Tablets. Death sentences were carried out by such means as crucifixion, drowning, beating to death, burning alive, and impalement.

anthra22
2006-08-27, 07:31
jesus wasn't real, jesus is the sun.

Abrahim
2006-08-27, 10:25
quote:Originally posted by anthra22:

jesus wasn't real, jesus is the sun.

The sun isn't real?

Abrahim
2006-08-27, 10:29
quote:Originally posted by anthra22:

jesus wasn't real, jesus is the sun.

The sun isn't real?

Gyrin
2006-08-27, 20:29
im pretty sure we would use the fish symbol cuz i mean.. its only the sign of christianity.

Deoz
2006-08-27, 20:33
quote:Originally posted by Martini:

I think it would be pretty cool if instead of Christians wearing a cross on a chain with Jesus hanging on it, they wore a guillotine with a bucket underneath it and a long haired Jesus head tumbling in to it.

Yeah because every Christian wears a chain with a cross on it. http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)