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First I'd like you to tell me what you think of this:
http://www.islamawareness.net/Muhammed/muhamed_in_bible.html
Please read the article entirely without skimming, thanks!
I'd like to copy paste something I write to Christians, please don't take offense but feel free to respond with your own points:
To All Christians: Please Read the Following with an Open Mind, Do not Close your eyes or ears or mind or heart to this, this is for your life, be wise.
Christianity promotes OPEN Blasphemy against the Sublime and Supreme nature of the One God. They say God came to Earth as a Man, God is in the image of Man, God had a Begotten Son who is Him, God is 3 in 1, God was a baby, God had a Mother, God died, The blood of Jesus forgives the sins of all people, etc.
Firstly, God is One, One whole, Essentially God is all there is and ever was, God is here there and everywhere within without you are dependant on it.
Secondly, God is not a man, nor is God in the image of Man, Men are not the Children of God, God does not have Children, Men are Men, they are part of God, existing within God and only By God.
Thirdly, Jesus is not a God, Jesus was in the image of a man because he was a man, I do not believe Jesus ever claimed to be God or the son of God despite what the New Testament invents about him. Jesus was a man, born as a baby, grew into age, he was a part of God as much as a tree or a grain of sand, he was no more than a human, he brought the people a message, the message was ignored as it is now.
Fourthly, Blood does not forgive sins, nor does someone ELSE dying, the Jewish tradition of Scapegoat does not apply, it was the tradition to kill a lamb or goat and forgive the sins of a village, Jesus is called the Lamb of God for this reason, to say that the death of something can forgive those who do not ask for forgiveness is a blasphemy, Jesus is not a Savior, No man can save another man, we can only save ourselves, we are our own saviors, it is up to us to communicate with the Supreme God and ask for forgiveness, there are no intermediaries, Jesus Jonas Jack and Jill can not forgive you, not by dying, not by living, not by anything, they have no power, to God is all the power.
Christians would be wise to CEASE and DESIST in the promotion of BLASPHEMY against the ONE GOD by inventing LIES about the NATURE of GOD and REALITY.
Science should have no conflict with the True God, The True God is where all things inside and out of this universe came from.
Do not be Stubborn, You are wise enough to understand that there is a God, you should be wise enough to accept the true nature of God and not to BLASPHEMY repeatedly about the SUPREME AND ULTIMATE Nature of God.
Their arguments are to make you lose God, Do not Lose God, God is not what you have been imagining or inventing in your imagination, nor is God a man or a woman or a thing created, God is infront of you at all times, open your eyes and see, you are living God, existing because of God, and it is to God you return. There is no Escape, Jesus is nothing but a man and a servant of God, one who submitted himself and accepted the Truth, he made no claims to divinity, he was not a Blasphemer, Cease and Desist.
They can break your idols, so break your idols for them, God is not an Idol, nor does God have an image, but all images are within God.
You are not the Children of God, you are the Creation of God, God in all majesty and wonder manifested you, and developed you slowly, and this earth, and evolved you, Do you not see the intricacy and beauty, will you not submit to the Reality of which you are completely dependant?
God is the originator of all things, Do not say that God did not Create some things, God manifested all things, existing and non existing, seen and unseen, known and unknown, there is NO creator but God, all men can do is manipulate what they have available, invent what is possible, the possibilities provided and manifested by God.
Drop the Blasphemous Book, the New Testament, Which Invents lie after lie about God and Jesus. You do not lose God by dropping a book full of blasphemy, Go on a journey to find the truth, or come to me and I will show you the truth, abrahimesker@hotmail.com on MSN, abrahim_esker@yahoo.com, abrahimesker on AIM.
There is one Religion and there has always been one Religion, with One God, and man repeatedly mutates it into something new, go to the root and it is one truth.
For the sake of your own being, and for your own benefit in this life and the next, cease and desist in uttering blasphemy about God with little knowledge and understanding, you are only harming yourself by promoting blasphemy, God is far beyond what many invent, but God should not be beyond understanding, God is apparent for those who choose to see, and that is a minority.
There is no Being in the Sky that is Worthy of Worship, the only worthy of Submission is the One God, Not some man in an alternate dimension but the Ultimate Reality which holds your very existance and the existance of all things with all might. All Power Belongs to God. God is not 3, God is One, Nor does God have 3 parts, If you will make divisions, then Divide God for all God's innumerable aspects, and All that is within God. God is One, Reality is One, All is One, Submit.
I am not a promoter of an Evil Word, I am not a servant of blasphemy, I wish for you to Cease and Desist in Blasphemy, if you have even a fraction of good and sense in you, you will see what I am saying as the truth. I am not Satan or the Enemy of God or Jesus. I am the enemy of Blasphemy.
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The Lord your God is not a man, is far beyond having children. It was men who invented a lie against God to say that he has begotten a son, and a blasphemy that they utter from their mouths and convince good people like yourself of an evil word, for the Lord your God is Supreme Exalted, Far Beyond having a Son and the idle inventions of Man.
Do you think God is some sort of being that has children and then sacrifices those children for the sin of an ant?
To everyone is their own responsibility to God, and no sacrifice can save you, but it is for you to pray and ask forgiveness of the Lord Your God.
Jesus was a man, born miraculously through his virgin mother, just as Adam was created with no father, Jesus was the creation of God, a man, who taught the message to the people to Worship and Submit to the One God. Not the 3 Gods, not the 6 Gods who are one, THE ONE GOD.
Who is the One God? The One God goes by many names. What are its aspects?
It is the supreme, the exalted, the mighty, the all knowing, all seeing, all experiencing, all, the mightiest, the controller of everything, the knowledge, the reality we exist within, the reality which all realities exist within and are completely dependant on and made of, our creator, our originator, NOT OUR FATHER, GOD IS NOT A MAN, NOR DOES GOD HAVE CHILDREN, NOR DOES GOD HAVE A MOTHER OR FATHER.
Creating false idols in the name of God, naming them God, illusions and inventions, false and untrue. There is one God, Ever Present, Closer to you than your blood and veins, it is not Jesus, it is not your Father, it is God, the One.
Mary was a wonderful woman, righteous and upright, she was not a blasphemer, nor would she make claim as a Queen or that she is the Mother of God, nor will praying to her accomplish anything, she is a human woman, she is no longer living.
Jesus was a wonderful man, righteous and upright, he was not a blasphemer, nor would he make claim as a God, for only God is the True King and Ruler, Provider of all things. Jesus was the servant of God, devout, one who had submitted.
No man or beast can die for the sins of another, but it is for you to ask for forgiveness, God does not demand blood sacrifice, this is the invention of men, the creation of God, who will be punished in hellfire, for the lies they invented against God.
What happened to the ressurection? Souls flying around like ghosts? This is a Greek concept. You will die, it will be like sleep, you won't know you are dead until you wake up, it could be a million years but it will feel like a day that you have slept, and the day you will wake is Judgement Day, when all that you have sent forth, will be shown to you, and sent back on you, when HUMANS, NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD, BUT HUMANS will be sorted out, some will be punished, some will be rewarded, there is no Limbo and there never was a Limbo, God is Pure and Everything was set before the creation of this Universe.
God is not a man nor in the image of man that he has children, sons, daughters, God is far superior to the devices of humans. God is everywhere, in everything, everything is made of God, there is no division.
You are the creation of God, like a tree, or a rock, or an ant, God has blessed you with many things to be thankful for, but God is not your Father, God is your Master, Your Ruler, Your King, Your Creator, Your God.
What is the conflict? What is it you are holding on to that you will blasphemy against God: The New Testament? It is not written by Jesus, the Book of Jesus is Gone now: Though there is a book with rightness, reason, understanding that does not blasphemy against God. http://messenger.msn.com Please download that and talk to me on there at abrahimesker@hotmail.com
This isn't a joke nor am I fooling around with you, this is serious, about your mind, your life, your soul.
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Can God not hear all prayers? Does God not listen to some? Praying to intercessors seems wrong while religion should be a connection between the individual and God. How can the prayer of another man forgive YOU, it is YOU who has to ask for forgiveness.
What makes Jesus the "Begotten Son" of God? That he was born of a virgin and did not sin? How does that make him a son of God, God is far beyond having children, God is not a man, we are men, we have children.
Pais is the word used for Son AND Servant, it is one word in the language of the Bible. It is much better in my opinion to say that Jesus is the Servant of God and the Servant of Man than saying that he is the Son of God (Who is beyond having Sons for God isnt a man) and the Son of Man (Servant of Man applies much better as that is what he was, serving man with the message of right and good)
"(3) You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. (4) You shall not bow down to them or worship them"
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""Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them"(Exodus 20:4-6 KJV)"
Sure you don't worship them, but making graven images of God (If it is believed that Jesus is God.)
This is because God isn't a rock or a man or any of these things, but all these things are dependant on God the supreme.
I am against statements of blasphemy that appear in the Old Testament such as unverifiable lies about honorable men and messengers such as Noah and more: Furthermore for misleading and incorrect statements such as "God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
27 God created man in his own image. In God's image he created him; male and female he created them."
God has no image, God is not a human, God does not resemble a human or any created thing, God has no form or limits, God is infinite and all powerful, all images are within God, God does not have an image.
Saying "The Bible Said So" Is no exuse to blasphemy against God with the following statements:
Man is in God's Image and Likeness (God has an Image and Likeness)
Jesus is the Son of God. (God has Children)
God is One but also Three.
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God has no likeness or Image but all images are limited forms and within God's jurisdiction as God's creation.
Jesus was a man and a messenger of God, a devout servant of God. God does not have children and is not a man.
God is not 3, but only One, all is within, nothing is without.
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Most idols are "visual aids" used to represent something else. They are still idols. Praying to dead men will afford you no benefit as not a word can be negotiated with God save what you will personally ask for directly, not THROUGH people who are not living and not yet ressurected.
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God hears all prayers and every single thing, and God's attention is ever present everywhere at all times. God is not here or there, or anywhere, but EVERYWHERE, no one is in physical proximity closer to God than another, because God is absolutely everywhere, closer to you than your blood and veins even.
I don't believe Saints are in Heaven. Why? Because Judgement Day, the Day of Ressurection has not occured, and so those men and women are still dead, non living, and have not yet been raised.
Why not pray to a patron idol? It is the same tradition but this time the spirits and gods have taken form as Patron Saints who fulfill certain causes, just how there used to be specific Gods people prayed to for specific things, like a fertility God. It is idol worship and it is a blasphemy, dead men and women can not help you, and God is so near to you that nothing, not even what is in your heart or mind goes unheard.
Prayers are just as effective alone or in a group, but belief in something might be stronger in a group. It is not the number of people praying something that makes God answer a prayer.
No man or woman, no matter how wonderful or pious, can intercede on behalf of another. For example a great man can't say on behalf of the evil man "Oh God don't punish him in hell", if the evil man persists in evil he will be punished for it, and no ammount of intercession can intercede. People should pray for themselves, and for those who believe, and those who believe should pray for themselves too.
God is not a man, nor is in comparison to a Prime Minister, there is no hierarchy of intercession, God has no advisors, and no one has an authority with God. A poor vagabond and the prince of the world are in equal sight by God, the best is the best of conduct, even so the best of conduct can not intercede on behalf of the worst of conduct. God is aware of absolutely everything and is encompassing, surrounding, within and without, everything. We are not far from God physically, in the most literal sense, God is ever present, nearer than the atom's that we are made of.
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I have no doubt in the power of prayer and meditation, I can even comprehend to a degree how you feel, the reason I'm reaching out to you is because you're a believer, someone who can (hopefully) grasp the concept of God and has at least the potential to understand what it is I am saying and warning you about:
1. Jesus the Messenger of God, the man who devoted his life to God and the Worship of God and spreading the Message of God has been turned into an Idol, by dictionary definition even, an Idol to which people turn in prayer, when he did not pray to himself, but to God the One.
2.God is not a man or a woman or some THING here or there, but God is what everything is within, made of, existing by, God is everywhere, there is nothing that is not made of God, existing by God, completely dependant on God, God is no ones father, God is no ones son, God is God the Creator, the All Powerful, make no images of God, and God is not in the image of man, man is not in the image of God, strip all the images within God and there will be nothing but God, imageless, colorless, limitless. Jesus was in the image of man because he was a human being, created by God, God has no sons for God is not a man, God is not a son of himself either, God is far beyond these things.
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I agree up to a point. In our beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and Was God: I take this as a reference to the knowledge and the word sent forth for this reality and universe to begin, "Be".
Guess what! I also agree to the next part, in order for Jesus to manifest it was again the word of God "Be" and so it was.
But Jesus is no more God than a Tree or a Car or anything else, we are all within God, a part of God, manifested by God, dependant on God, existing only by God. God is our Originator.
But Jesus prayed to God, Worshipped God, and spread the message of God: Jesus was not God, nor does God have sons: For God is not a Man, but God is the Creator of All things, the Lord of Jesus and the one Jesus worshipped and prayed to and asked for help from.
God made Jesus by saying "Be" just as God made Adam and the Universe. All things are a part of God but no one thing is the whole of God as God is the All Encompassing.
Now here is another perspective, Enjoy!:
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When the wife of 'Imran said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower!
When she was delivered, she said: "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!"- and Allah knew best what she brought forth- "And no wise is the male Like the female. I have named her Mary, and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected."
And her Lord accepted her with full acceptance and vouchsafed to her a goodly growth; and made Zakariya her guardian. Whenever Zakariya went into the sanctuary where she was, he found that she had food. He said: O Marium! Whence cometh unto thee this (food)? She answered: It is from God. God giveth without stint to whom He will.
There did Zakariya pray to his Lord; he said: My Lord! grant me from Thee good offspring; surely Thou art the Hearer of prayer.
While he was standing in prayer in the chamber, the angels called unto him: "God doth give thee glad tidings of Yahya (John), witnessing the truth of a Word from God, and (be besides) noble, chaste, and a prophet,- of the (goodly) company of the righteous."
He said: My Lord! How can I have a son when age hath overtaken me already and my wife is barren? (The angel) answered: So (it will be). God doeth what He will.
He said: My Lord! appoint a sign for me. Said He: Your sign is that you should not speak to men for three days except by signs; and remember your Lord much and glorify Him in the evening and the morning.
And when the angels said: O Marium! surely God has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of of the world.
O Marium! keep to obedience to your Lord and humble yourself, and bow down with those who bow.
This is of the announcements relating to the unseen which We reveal to you; and you were not with them when they cast their pens (to decide) which of them should have Marium in his charge, and you were not with them when they contended one with another.
When the angels said: O Marium, surely God gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near.
"He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be of the righteous."
She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!
And He will teach him the Book and the wisdom and the Taurat and the Injeel.
"And (appoint him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God's leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by God's leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
And a verifier of that which is before me of the Taurat and that I may allow you part of that which has been forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord therefore be careful of (your duty to) God and obey me.
"'It is God Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.'"
When Isa found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who will be My helpers to(the work of) God?" Said the disciples: "We are God's helpers: We believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.
"Our Lord! we believe in what Thou hast revealed, and we follow the Messenger; then write us down among those who bear witness."
And they planned and God (also) planned, and God is the best of planners.
And when God said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.
"As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
"As to those who believe and work righteousness, God will pay them (in full) their reward; but God loveth not those who do wrong."
"This is what we rehearse unto thee of the Signs and the Message of Wisdom."
The similitude of Isa before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
The truth from your Lord, so be not of the disputers.
If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of God on those who lie!"
This is the true account: There is no god except God; and God-He is indeed the Exalted in Power, the Wise.
But if they turn back, God hath full knowledge of those who do mischief.
Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside God. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered to God.
Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Taurat and the Injeel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?
Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is God Who knows, and ye who know not!
Ibrahim was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to God), and he was not of the idolaters.
Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim are those who followed him and this Prophet and those who believe and Allah is the guardian of the believers.
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray only themselves, and they do not perceive!
O People of the Scripture! Why disbelieve ye in the revelations of God, when ye bear witness?
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There is more on Jesus but thats a little sampler for you.
Jesus was the worshipper of God, the Servant of God, who was bringing the message of God to the people. Everything that exists is made of God, no one part is greater than the next and God is not a man that he should have sons or be a son, but God is God the Creator, the All Powerful and Jesus prayed to and surrendered to God.