Since alot of people here and other forums on totse belive that all Christians tell everyone to go to hell, push their belief systems onto everyone else, belive the Bile to be 100% factual. I've decided to point out a couple huge differences between the fundamentalist christians and christians.

The fundamentalist generally belives that the bible is literally meant to mean what it says word for word, or literally (literalism). This is not true for christians, the Bible is a guideline to help us live a moral life and apply it to out normal day occurances.

The fundamentalist christians are the ones who will say "God hates fag" because they feel that the Bible tells them that. They are the usual ones to spurt out things like "if you don't belive in Jesus, you are damned to hell!". You see now how they take everything too literal?

The Roman Catholic will practice their faith by living day by day to service others in need and to live a good life as Jesus did, even if he isn't the son of God, he was still a very moral and helpful man.

The roman catholic will respect your own belief whether you believe in nothing or whatever.

So, that's basicly what I think it means to be a roman catholic and how the fundamentalists ruin Christianity for us.

I agree. I think the doctrine of "salvation through grace" is, in effect, laziness on the part of the Protestant. The way of a devout Catholic is hard and requires actually practicing what you preach; by contrast, it's very simple to be a Fundie. Too, I have never met a hateful Catholic, and the Pope(s) seem to be much more open-minded regarding science and tolerance.

[This message has been edited by Twisted_Ferret (edited 09-21-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by st3ve:

The Roman Catholic will practice their faith by living day by day to service others in need and to live a good life as Jesus did, even if he isn't the son of God, he was still a very moral and helpful man.

The roman catholic will respect your own belief whether you believe in nothing or whatever.

So, that's basicly what I think it means to be a roman catholic and how the fundamentalists ruin Christianity for us.



Hi st3ve,

Although there are other things in your post that need commenting on, i would just like to ask you a couple of things about this statement.

First, if Jesus is not God, what does it matter if He or His teachings are good and/or moral.

Second, (multi-part)

a. you say "Christianity", which by definition, is belief that Jesus is the Christ, the Second Person of the Triune God.

b. Jesus taught us many things, but two of those things were:

He is the only way to God the Father.

That we should "go forth and teach all nations..."

3. YOUR view of Roman Catholics is that they will respect ones own belief whether that person believes in nothing or whatever.



How then, do you defend 'respect' of someones "belief in nothing" or "whatever", by not preaching the Law and the consequences of Sin?

Are we not supposed to "Love our neighbor as ourselves"?

Let me put this statement in another form:

Do you love yourself enough to not want to go to Hell?

If your answer to that is 'yes, i do not want to go to Hell', then would you be living up to the Commandment just pointed out, if you were complacent, and did not warn your neighbor of Hell??? .... by SIMPLY respecting their belief in nothing???



Honestly, although it seems like i am attacking you, i really am not. Nor am i attacking Catholics in general.

What i am trying to point out, is that it is not only the duty of Christians, Commanded by Christ Jesus (and to do so out of Love-- both, Love of God and Love of neighbor), but also it should be a Loving desire to want other humans to be in God's Love in Eternity.

Not only that, but because of complacency, it might be a friend or a loved one that goes to Hell because you or i did not think it important enough to share the Good News.



May God's Grace and Love guide you and keep you (and your loved ones as well),

johnny

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

I agree. I think the doctrine of "salvation through grace" is, in effect, laziness on the part of the Protestant. The way of a devout Catholic is hard and requires actually practicing what you preach; by contrast, it's very simple to be a Fundie. Too, I have never met a hateful Catholic, and the Pope(s) seem to be much more open-minded regarding science and tolerance.





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Hey, I know I'm generalizing and making unfounded assumptions. http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif) I just have a deep and abiding for the Catholic Church... even though I've never once been Catholic in my entire life.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:



Hey, I know I'm generalizing and making unfounded assumptions. http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/tongue.gif) I just have a deep and abiding for the Catholic Church... even though I've never once been Catholic in my entire life.

Hi T_F,

The "unfounded assumptions" are minor compared to the theological minimizing implications.

Just to be brief, the thinking of salvation through grace as laziness... while elevating "hard" (work) is a twisting of the Gospel (and even, to a point, Catholic doctrine)...

But then again, maybe that's why your name is 'twisted ferret'.

God Bless and good night,

johnny

I contend that Christianity is so fundamentally flawed that it cannot be "ruined."

It is a religion of fear and denial, and the reason it is as it is has more to do with earthly politics and power-hunger than it has to do with God.