The book Islam and Terrorism by Mark Gabriel:

http://tinyurl.com/fbtv7



Some pages from Mark Gabriel's book (need Adobe Acrobat Reader):

http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter4.pdf 206KB

http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter5.pdf 124KB

http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/DeceitChapter6.pdf 101KB

http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/MuslimPastorCh7.pdf 100MB

http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/3StagesJihadCh11.pdf 88MB

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http://www.apostatesofislam.com

http://www.faithfreedom.org

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/index.php

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/index.php

http://www.faithfreedom.org/holiday/phpBB2/index.php

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/index.php

http://www.activistchat.com

http://islam-watch.org/CommunityServer/forums/default.aspx

http://islam-watch.org

http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2829059.stm

http://www.islam-watch.org/

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/

http://www.atcoalition.net/

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/pages/6-Mein%20Kampf_jpg_jpg_jpg.htm

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/moslem.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://atheism.about.com/cs/islamandviolence/

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/08/17/martyr.culture/index.html

http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/jihad.html

http://www.domini.org/openbook/home.htm

http://www.persecution.org

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9583

http://www.danielpipes.org/

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/kafirdomunity/action.htm

http://www.geocities.com/khola_mon/BTaliban/Bangla_Taliban_Photos.html

http://www.bwoi.cjb.net

http://www.chechentruth.cjb.net/

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

http://www.arabsforisrael.com/pages/1/index.htm

http://www.rotter.net/israel/

http://www.geocities.com/khola_mon/Islam.html

http://www.geocities.com/milkmandan2003/TalibanOnline1.html

http://www.truthtree.com/Debating/posts/755.html

http://www.isralert.com/archives/2005/03/deceit_thy_name.php

http://www.factsandlogic.org

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/zakirnaik/zakicaptured.gif

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

http://www.venusproject.com/prophet_of_doom/toc.html

http://www.venusproject.com/prophet_of_doom/quotes1.html#terrorism

http://www.pmw.org.il/

According to these links the Quran has been changed over time.

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-koran-manuscripts.htm

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter8/3.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Text/

http://www.jodkowski.pl/re/MBright.html

http://cremesti.com/amalid/Islam/Yemeni_Ancient_Koranic_Texts.htm

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http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5197

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5237

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5258



"Modern Liberals, With Some Exceptions, Are Fascists. They Preach Peace At The Expense Of Liberty, Diversity At The Expense Of Common Sense, Equality At The Expense Of Fairness And Choice At The Expense Of Life. They Are The First To Speak About Rights, Yet They Seek To Deny You Yours If You Disagree With Them. They Vociferate The Importance Of Free Speech, Yet Do Everything In Their Power To Stifle Yours. They Demonize The Very System Which Allows Them The Freedom To Criticize In The First Place, And They Are The Last People In Line When It Comes To Defending The One Country On Earth That Would Ever Tolerate Their Hypocrisy. They Are Divisive, Immoral And Utterly Incapable Of Understanding Why Everything I Just Wrote Is The Truth." - Edward L. Daley

"Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole." - Thomas Sowell

“Some of the most vocal critics of the way things are being done are people who have done nothing themselves, and whose only contributions to society are their complaints and moral exhibitionism.” – Thomas Sowell

“A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.” – G. Gordon Liddy

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The Jews Took No One's Land http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KGx3iZQwI&mode=related&search=

The Culture of Jihad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9b7S2HA8Go&mode=related&search=

3 former terrorists talk about their culture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaUftcRJ5wo&NR

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vypKSWHlnKA&mode=related&search=

Allah Happy when Kaafir get Killed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCmSSetPV0&mode=related&search=

Rush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vypKSWHlnKA&mode=related&search=

"Anti-war" Demonstrators Supporting Terrorism and Hate in SF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3PKVuwNTmk&mode=related&search=

Defenders of Israel on the streets of San Francisco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CitKwxOiSW4&NR



Fight terror, support IDF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qw_sK-Xg18&mode=related&search=

Believes in Evolution, But Starts with 911 Jew islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ksr1A-X80&mode=related&search=

http://www.dafka.org/ContentFiles/videos/m-mpg.asx

http://www.masada2000.org/Execution%20-Russian.asf

http://www.masada2000.org/impalement.asx

http://www.masada2000.org/shosei-koda-beheading-video.wmv

http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/audio/eugene-armstrong-beheading-video.wmv

Islam is an organized crime and criminal political system.



Apostasy in Islam



by Ali Sina

Apostasy in Islam is punishable by death. This sentence is practiced wherever Muslims are in power and can practice it. In Iran many Baha'is where executed because they changed religion. The Fatwas against Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasrin and Anwar Sheikh are examples of that.

Muslims are trained to have fanatical devotion. They won't hesitate to do any crime if it is done in the name of Allah. Islam is a moral relativistic religion. It means that stealing, lying, terrorism and even assassinations are acceptable if are done for Allah and his cause.

"Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were criminals" [Quran 9:66]

"Verily, those who disbelieved after their Belief and then went on increasing in their disbelief - never will their repentance be accepted [because they repent only by their tongues and not from their hearts]. And they are those who are astray. Verily, those who disbelieved, and died while they were disbelievers, the (whole) earth full of gold will not be accepted from anyone of them even if they offered it as a ransom. For them is a painful torment and they will have no helpers."

[Quran 3:90-91]

"O you who believe! Whoever from among you turns backx from his religion, Allah will bring a people whom He will love and they will love Him; humble towards the believers, stern towards the disbelievers, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the blame of the blamers. That is the Grace of Allah which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allah is All-Sufficient for His creatures' needs, All-Knower." [Quran 5:54]

"O Prophet (Muhammad)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them, their abode is Hell, - and worst indeed is that destination. They swear by Allah that they said nothing (bad), but really they said the word of disbelief, and they disbelieved after accepting Islam, and they resolved that which they were unable to carry out, and they could not find any cause to do so except that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His Bounty. If then they repent, it will be better for them, but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful torment in this worldly life and in the Hereafter. And there is none for them on earth as a Wali (supporter, protector) or a helper." [Quran 9:73-74]

"So remind them (Muhamad), you are only one who reminds. You are not a dictator over them. Save the one who turns away and disbelieves. Then Allah will punish him with the greatest punishment. [Quran 88:21-24]

It seems that the above verse contradicts itself. On one hand the choice of faith is left to the individual and God tells Muhammad that is is not to force faith on them and immediately he makes an exception with those who choose to reject Islam after accepting it. This is an flagrant proof of the cultic nature of Islam.

The following verse is about the Meccans who after accepting Islam did not want to emigrate at Muhammad's behest or wanted to go back to Mecca, to their homes and lives. Muhammad orders his followers to kill those who defect the camp. This is a very harsh sentence against the Muslims who were fed up and just wanted to go home.

"They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them," [Quran 4:89]

"They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall have none on earth to protect or help them." (Q.9:74)

There are also many hadithes that confirm what is in the Quran about the harsh treatment of the apostates. Here are a couple of them.

Narrated Ikrima:

"Ali burnt some people [hypocrites] and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " (Sahih Bukhari 4.260)

Narrated Abu Burda:

".... The Prophet then sent Mu'adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu'adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold: There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Muisa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, "Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, 'I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.'" (Sahih Bukhari 9.58, also Sahih Bukhari 9.271)

Used with permission from FaithFreedom.org

http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/apostasy_in_islam.htm

This is a repeat, from another thread.

BUT then it “needs” to be repeated, over and over until all of the brain dead realizes just what is “going on!!!”

However maybe being “forced” to accept Islam and bow down five times a day to praise Allah is not considered by them to be a problem.



[This message has been edited by Spock (edited 10-29-2006).]

I honestly hope youre trolling, because convincing you to shut the fuck up would take Rust quite some time.

Is the point of this thread to smash Islam?

Because the same negative things you can about islam you can say about almost any other religion.

Extremist in all forms, be it in religion or government, are the most dangerous people in the world. Every religion has them.

Where do you get these posts, lol?

IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD TO SMASH ISLAM?

Yes.

BECAUSE THE SAME NEGATIVE THINGS YOU CAN ABOUT ISLAM YOU CAN SAY ABOUT ALMOST ANY OTHER RELIGION.

Most certainly!

EXTREMIST IN ALL FORMS, BE IT IN RELIGION OR GOVERNMENT, ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. EVERY RELIGION HAS THEM.

Absolutely, no question about that.

The problem here is that with most other religions if someone or group starts making outrageous statements the majority of the more moderate members will “publicly” stand up and denounce them. In Islam finding moderate members who will actually denounce the radical ideas that are presented is a rarity.

quote:Originally posted by Spock:

IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD TO SMASH ISLAM?

Yes.

BECAUSE THE SAME NEGATIVE THINGS YOU CAN ABOUT ISLAM YOU CAN SAY ABOUT ALMOST ANY OTHER RELIGION.

Most certainly!

EXTREMIST IN ALL FORMS, BE IT IN RELIGION OR GOVERNMENT, ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. EVERY RELIGION HAS THEM.

Absolutely, no question about that.

The problem here is that with most other religions if someone or group starts making outrageous statements the majority of the more moderate members will “publicly” stand up and denounce them. In Islam finding moderate members who will actually denounce the radical ideas that are presented is a rarity.

I see where you're coming from and usually I would agree with you. But, how can one explain all the troops in Iraqi troops that are defending their countries or all that came out to vote in their election?

Does Islam have the most extremist at this point in history? Certaintly, but one does not need to go to far back to when a majority of Christians were extreme. I think it is just a big dumb religous cycle.

quote:The problem here is that with most other religions if someone or group starts making outrageous statements the majority of the more moderate members will “publicly” stand up and denounce them. In Islam finding moderate members who will actually denounce the radical ideas that are presented is a rarity. [/B]

It is their neglected duty - perhaps the neglected duty of all faiths.

I don't understand this fear some people have thinking Islam is going to spread so wildly in Western Europe and the West in general that they will come to control our policy making internally and abroad. Islamic communities in Europe are so disjointed and consistently fail to form any cohesive voice that I tend to see such a fear as an impossibility. It has been my experience from conversation and the examination of case studies that most Muslims in foreign countries choose to align themselves according to ethnic or nationalistic backgrounds rather than embrace religion as a unifying force.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

I see where you're coming from and usually I would agree with you. But, how can one explain all the troops in Iraqi troops that are defending their countries or all that came out to vote in their election?

Does Islam have the most extremist at this point in history? Certaintly, but one does not need to go to far back to when a majority of Christians were extreme. I think it is just a big dumb religous cycle.



I THINK IT IS JUST A BIG DUMB RELIGOUS CYCLE.

Good point.

I agree most religions believe that it is through them, and them alone, that theirs is the only way you will find salvation. Fortunately most Christian based religions have evolved to where they at least tolerant to the beliefs of others.

Islam unfortunately has not risen to that level yet. So the question is how many more must die before this happens? http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)

quote:Originally posted by karma_sleeper:

It is their neglected duty - perhaps the neglected duty of all faiths.

I don't understand this fear some people have thinking Islam is going to spread so wildly in Western Europe and the West in general that they will come to control our policy making internally and abroad. Islamic communities in Europe are so disjointed and consistently fail to form any cohesive voice that I tend to see such a fear as an impossibility. It has been my experience from conversation and the examination of case studies that most Muslims in foreign countries choose to align themselves according to ethnic or nationalistic backgrounds rather than embrace religion as a unifying force.



I would say that what people FEAR is quotes like the following one by a prominent Gaza Strip preacher, Sheik Abu Saqer, leader of Gaza's Jihadia Salafiya Islamic outreach movement, which seeks to make secular Muslims (as in non-fanatical) more religious, he called the popes recent request for dialogue as "dangerous".



“Through this dialogue he hopes to break the lines of unity between Muslims and polarize the Muslim world, which has some partisans who will accept this new dialogue. BUT TRUE BELIEVERS KNOW ISLAM MUST RULE ALL RELATIONS. THE ONLY DIALOGUE WE WILL ACCEPT IS WHEN ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AGREE TO CONVERT TO ISLAM."



What are the odds that you didn’t see his quote on the evening news?

quote:Originally posted by Spock:



I would say that what people FEAR is quotes like the following one by a prominent Gaza Strip preacher, Sheik Abu Saqer, leader of Gaza's Jihadia Salafiya Islamic outreach movement, which seeks to make secular Muslims (as in non-fanatical) more religious, he called the popes recent request for dialogue as "dangerous".



“Through this dialogue he hopes to break the lines of unity between Muslims and polarize the Muslim world, which has some partisans who will accept this new dialogue. BUT TRUE BELIEVERS KNOW ISLAM MUST RULE ALL RELATIONS. THE ONLY DIALOGUE WE WILL ACCEPT IS WHEN ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AGREE TO CONVERT TO ISLAM."



What are the odds that you didn’t see his quote on the evening news?

I think you answered your own question when you implied he was fanatical. He's a radical cleric on the margins of Islamic society making all kinds of wild accusations and assertions. The only clout he has arguably is with Palestinian radicals.

quote:Originally posted by Spock:

I THINK IT IS JUST A BIG DUMB RELIGOUS CYCLE.

Good point.

I agree most religions believe that it is through them, and them alone, that theirs is the only way you will find salvation. Fortunately most Christian based religions have evolved to where they at least tolerant to the beliefs of others.

Islam unfortunately has not risen to that level yet. So the question is how many more must die before this happens? http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/mad.gif)



We are in agreement, sir.