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MindCrime
2006-11-08, 00:03
So just recently I was in an altered state and some dxm. And came up with this idea for a new religion. Bascuialy i saw life, and god in a whole new way.
I put it all into a website: http://www.x83mind.vzz.net
I made it really quick, theres are more to be added and fixed up etc. But befor I continue i have to know. Is this this totally stupid, do you like if, do you feel you would follow, do you hate it.
I am opening my ideas to a full debate on my "religion" i will answers any and all question.
sounds dumb.
get followers
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 04:02
thats why im hear, i need your thoughts, opinouns and i need followers
Twisted_Ferret
2006-11-08, 05:09
quote:Try and remember the feeling you had, the hate, the anger, the wanting for revenge.
That's not a good thing...
deadbeat
2006-11-08, 05:48
it sounds alot like buddhism + atheism
anyway, there's a spyware in the website. It tried to download itself onto my PC but I cancelled it. fucking hell
Aft3r ImaGe
2006-11-08, 06:13
quote:Originally posted by MindCrime:
So just recently I was in an altered state and some dxm.
It would be less funny if it meant something.
anon99989
2006-11-08, 06:17
Did you write this while on DXM too? Because it reads like a stoned retard wrote it.
When you can't even spell the name of the religion right, give up.
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 20:41
and yes i wrote it on dxm, this is not the finsihed site, hence da free hosting i used. Im not gonna give it up, i just need new ideas and ways to fix my ideas. Dis reguard the spelling for now.
I mean is scientology was formed, i feel this idea is more beliveable than that.
Elephantitis Man
2006-11-08, 21:24
Do you actually believe this? I'd say make it a bit more mystical, put some fancy videowork on youtube, and make some money. I could see this catching on with adolescents looking to rebel, "OMG I'm da Chaotic master!"
But yeah, it could go places (like I said, if you don't believe it. If you do...you can't just make a fuckin' religion up!).
Drop me an email: hatepirate at gmail.com
Frontier Psychiatrist
2006-11-08, 21:30
Sounds like you mixed Nietzsche, nihilism and atheism... but in a very poor and uneducated fashion.
your "new" Religion=failed.
Proof (http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/9X/04714349/047143499X.pdf)
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 21:51
During my dxm trip, i made this, then I conquered my fear of death. But after I was sober i read into this and i really do belive in it.
Weather i have a diease or somtin, i have expirced this "Chaos" i talk to my self and a whole different side of me answers and i know this becuase its a differecnt prespcetive on the question.
I feel that everyone has a differenct (hidden) side to them it can be good, bad or what ever. My dxm trip bascaily opened my mind and made me realize new things.
EDIT: @Omony - I understand what you are saying. I feel we use all of our brian. But we dont have 100% control over it. Like our adernilin, we can train outselves to release it and recreat situations of distress, but wut if we could physicaly send the message to release the adernelin. Also in our brian is DMT (psydelic in plants, compared to lsd). If we could control that we can have hallucentaions on key, bascuailly just go into a state of dreaming instatly. People have started control over their brian with "Lucidity" with the ability to control dreams.
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Viraljimmy
2006-11-08, 22:01
Drugs can't connect you with god.
Only magic jesus crackers do that.
Raw_Power
2006-11-08, 22:02
Do you mind quoting what you have written? Because I am not clicking on that link.
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 22:07
Quote:
The Rise of a higher understanding
We are all tragic victims of society and its bullshit. Are minds, our thoughts, our souls have become warped.
We all have to possibility to become what we once were at the beginning of man. We were able to control our minds in that such a way more powerful than today.
Because we rely on so many needs and wants of today, we no longer use our entire mind and soul. We must all learn to "Think for ourselves, and question authority!"
Simplicity
Though there are many truths and beliefs, one among the rest stands out. All please have a GOD inside them, a "chaos" if you will. This chaos is the means of your life, not so much your soul, more or less needed for afterlife, but its here present inside you, inside your brain.
There is no one higher being, or many high being. The higher being, the god, is you, the chaos. We must learn how to restore the chaos in our mind, and body so we can one use it again in a physical way.
Chaos is Beautiful
Imagine a time when you were robbed or hurt badly by someone. Try and remember the feeling you had, the hate, the anger, the wanting for revenge. And if you did act remember how that felt. This is just a taste a the chaos inside us. Modern science says it is an adrenalin rush. This is true, but if we can learn how to operate our minds and the chaos we can set free the adrenaline, break boundaries, raise to higher places, and with time and practice become the god inside of us and set free the chaos.
The Chaotic Truths
* There is no One god nor Many gods... You are this God
* The Chaos dwells inside of each and every human
* We were all created with the Divine Chaos by some from of creation (your own beliefs)
* With every attempt on releasing your chaos is one step closer to Chaotic Divinity
* We must think for ourselves, and question society
* Not all people can handle their chaos, so they doubt it is there. We must not fear it.
* Today we fear, our enslaved mind and body only fear. Chaos is fearless
Keep in mind this is a "beta" state of my religion.
EDIT: I am sorry for the host (hostultra) it has spyware, I will swap it over to a private but slower server soon
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Frontier Psychiatrist
2006-11-08, 22:10
This has to be a troll.
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 22:11
troll??
Elephantitis Man
2006-11-08, 22:16
quote:Originally posted by MindCrime:
During my dxm trip, i made this, then I conquered my fear of death. But after I was sober i read into this and i really do belive in it.
Ah, I see. I mistook you for someone clever.
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 22:22
Well don't just drop ur thoughts yet. DXM is said to open your mind and help you realize and change your views and prespective on things. Its not like being drunk wen you blurt out bullshit. Eveer since that trip i've been elaborating on my belifs and ways of though.
The DXM was my "opium" of confucious.
It was my way to my "enlightnment"
Raw_Power
2006-11-08, 22:22
quote:We are all tragic victims of society and its bullshit. Are minds, our thoughts, our souls have become warped.
What Bullshit? If you don’t like the current society, attempt to change it, not abolish it. Society is necessary for man is a pack animal. Psychology has shown it is not healthy for a man to be alone, and in the wild man wouldn’t have survived very long if they hadn’t have gone around in packs of hunter-gatherers.
quote:We all have to possibility to become what we once were at the beginning of man. We were able to control our minds in that such a way more powerful than today.
Look at a chimpanzee, that was what basically we were at the dawn of man. If anything we have improved in understanding and wisdom.
quote:Because we rely on so many needs and wants of today, we no longer use our entire mind and soul. We must all learn to "Think for ourselves, and question authority!"
It’s the same as it ever was: shelter, food, clothing, water, and medicine. I believe in Anarchism, which is the abolition of the state and the creation of a consensual society. The only thing I think we need to do away with is hierarchies and money.
quote:Imagine a time when you were robbed or hurt badly by someone. Try and remember the feeling you had, the hate, the anger, the wanting for revenge. And if you did act remember how that felt. This is just a taste a the chaos inside us. Modern science says it is an adrenalin rush. This is true, but if we can learn how to operate our minds and the chaos we can set free the adrenaline, break boundaries, raise to higher places, and with time and practice become the god inside of us and set free the chaos.
So you’re encouraging people to let go of self-control and be sociopaths?
quote:The Chaotic Truths
* There is no One god nor Many gods... You are this God
* The Chaos dwells inside of each and every human
* We were all created with the Divine Chaos by some from of creation (your own beliefs)
* With every attempt on releasing your chaos is one step closer to Chaotic Divinity
* We must think for ourselves, and question society
* Not all people can handle their chaos, so they doubt it is there. We must not fear it.
* Today we fear, our enslaved mind and body only fear. Chaos is fearless
* okay, so you’re a pantheist, cool.
* Yes, we have violent primal urges.
* this makes no sense
* why would you want to become a sociopath and reject and destroy what is necessary for your survival, humanity?
* very good, I agree
* I don’t fear it and I acknowledge it is there, but once again, self-control is a good thing for the survival of the human race.
* Look up Buddhism, that’s fearlessness without being a sociopathic monster and “unleashing the chaos”.
Maybe I’m simply reading it wrong, if so it’s because you didn’t make it very clear.
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MindCrime
2006-11-08, 22:26
thank you for orginizing it...But please everyone know that I am serious about this or I wouln't have brought it there to totse.
Raw_Power
2006-11-08, 22:28
quote:Originally posted by MindCrime:
thank you for orginizing it
I wasn't organizing it, I was critiquing it. I hope to see your reply.
MindCrime
2006-11-08, 22:41
Bad choice of wrds on my part "orginizing" i dunnop what word i meant, any war on you interpetation:
1st quote: Timothy Leary's teachings
2nd quote: Line of bullshit i added to attract poeple
3rd quote: Leary, and read up a few posts i explained it
4th quote: No so much sociopaths, but using the psycotic anger built up and controling it, not holding bak but releasing it wen it needs to be released.
I can't tell you you are interpeting it wrong. Well these are just concepts right now, I didnt make my beleifs all that clear
EDIT: I don't feel my reply was to your linkings please ask any other questions and comments.
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Twisted_Ferret
2006-11-09, 06:19
quote:Originally posted by MindCrime:
4th quote: No so much sociopaths, but using the psycotic anger built up and controling it, not holding bak but releasing it wen it needs to be released.
When does psychotic anger ever need to be released? http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif) This is unhealthy, for you and those around you. I think psychotic anger needs to be eliminated, so that you can act in a logical and loving manner.
with that religion you will only attract pathetic try-hard rebels. Normal people dont want to release chaos within them because chaos is simply evil. It's common sense that if your inside is chaotic then you will be angry, violent etc.
So, if you only want goths and emo's then go ahead, but its the stupidest religion i have ever lain eyes apon
MindCrime
2006-11-09, 20:46
No Chaos does not mean the truditional meaning.
cha‧os /ˈkeɪɒs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[key-os] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of organization or order.
2. any confused, disorderly mass: a chaos of meaningless phrases.
3. the infinity of space or formless matter supposed to have preceded the existence of the ordered universe.
4. (initial capital letter) the personification of this in any of several ancient Greek myths.
<b>5. Obsolete. a chasm or abyss.</b>
Chaos is our hidden power, our soul in which we can tap into and control. Being able to control anger and release it wen needed. EX:
Your walking in the park and your mugged, thogh this religion you can trian yourself and insted of giving in and losing your possesions to the mugger, you have conquered your fear, you now release your anger in the for of "CHAOS". This chaos being a rage of engery released, compared to Scarface after he was shot at the end. He was on coke, but if we can lean to release adernil and control our chaos we can acomplish this w/o dugs.
Granted we naturally have rushes in thoes situations helping us fight, but if we can control the rush, make ir greater and be fearless we have a chance.
I do not want for "utter chaos" in socity. Just control of our chaotic side.
EDIT: @Twisted_Ferret For devout followers in theory when you lean to control your chaos though meditation and other methods we cna elimnate the need for anger, absorb it, and learn wen it is right to use it.
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ShouldTrip
2006-11-09, 21:15
Shoot, I was all set to read that, but when I opened the link a virus tried to bite me. =(
I'm sure you have good ideas though *pats*
MindCrime
2006-11-09, 21:17
Read up the thread i quoted my site.
NO1 open the like, hostultra has to much spyware, I have quoted the site severl posts up.
Stiffmajj The Giant
2006-11-11, 13:29
Isn't this just Satanism?
There is no god and you are your own god.
satisfy your desires etc.
These are all parts of satanism
Note: Satanism is not devil worshiping
Aft3r ImaGe
2006-11-11, 15:44
quote:Originally posted by MindCrime:
1st quote: Timothy Leary's teachings
Do you even know his teachings?
Hexadecimal
2006-11-11, 19:10
So...essentially...you're saying get over the brainwashing and follow your heart?
That's about what I got out of a 2300mg DXM trip. Completely changed my life. Thing is though, the heart is chaotic when chaos is necessary; passive when pacifism is necessary; passionate when passion is necessary; etc. The problem is people are so often afraid to act on their heart because their head is full of paranoia. We've pretty much been mindwashed by the world into fearing the very drive that makes us human.
A certain lady tug on your heart? Do something.
Someone get you steamed? Do something.
Feeling lonely? Do something.
When you feel a certain way, fucking do something about it. Be fearless: embrace all that you are so that YOU, not the world, has control of your volition.
MindCrime
2006-11-12, 04:23
Exactly....
suck my dick
2006-11-12, 04:27
Here's why your new religion will fail.
The book Islam and Terrorism by Mark Gabriel:
http://tinyurl.com/fbtv7
Some pages from Mark Gabriel's book (need Adobe Acrobat Reader):
http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter4.pdf 206KB
http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter5.pdf 124KB
http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/DeceitChapter6.pdf 101KB
http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/MuslimPastorCh7.pdf 100MB
http://home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030/Mark%20Gabriel/3StagesJihadCh11.pdf 88MB
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Roofs Purple Hexa Dreams
2006-11-13, 03:08
quote:Originally posted by MRman:
with that religion you will only attract pathetic try-hard rebels. Normal people dont want to release chaos within them because chaos is simply evil. It's common sense that if your inside is chaotic then you will be angry, violent etc.
So, if you only want goths and emo's then go ahead, but its the stupidest religion i have ever lain eyes apon
I suppose I am evil since releasing chaos and violence seems to be something my brain tells me I want to do. I have evil thoughts constantly and I think this "religion" is useless. So it doesnt attract me. and for the record I am neither goth nor emo, or even close to either.
Aft3r ImaGe
2006-11-13, 17:39
quote:Originally posted by suck my dick:
Here's why your new religion will fail.
Your a dumbass
MindCrime
2006-11-13, 20:52
Your arguments have somewhat changed my mind on this as a full blown religion. But I will change it to more a physical belief such as training your body mentaly and physicaly, like that of the samari, only if differences i'll post later.
Its realy hard to get what i'm saying in text, but i know what i want to say and eventualy it will come out right.
ArmsMerchant
2006-11-13, 20:54
This constitutes a strong argument against overdosing on cough syrup.
MindCrime
2006-11-13, 22:05
In a way i guess your right. I'm up for an argument on that subject, but i feel it's argument level can be that on the level of do guns kill or do ppl pulling the trigger kill.
But i was infect enlightened (arugmentable) and i beielive in my "religion"
quote:Originally posted by Roofs Purple Hexa Dreams:
I suppose I am evil since releasing chaos and violence seems to be something my brain tells me I want to do. I have evil thoughts constantly and I think this "religion" is useless. So it doesnt attract me. and for the record I am neither goth nor emo, or even close to either.
I dont actually think there is such thing as being evil to tell you the truth, i just think that purposely causing yourself to be violent isn't good.
I also have violent thoughts all the time, but i don't act on them.
Also, when i wrote that post i was in a bad and critical mood... sorry