Who would we have to start all the shit in the name of their gods, do you think the druids would be out there starting inquisitions and shit? or the Romans would be murdering in Mars name? Or Scandinavians would be killing everyone because "it's what Thor would want."?

It was Abraham that started all this "my god is the one true god" shit, and I think the world would have been better off without shitheads like him.

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

quote:Originally posted by owned:

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

Prove it or shut up and stop making baseless claims.

why is it needed to unify people? So far it has seemed to split people up.

Take a look at the Catholic church, it split twice. the first one into the eastern orthodox, the second into the protestant. and the sunni and shiites in islam. And all three religions of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism has fought for thousands of years. Christianity has also fought with itself for thousands of years. Unity comes from something else.

The Abrahamic religions are an equilateral triangle of mutually assured destruction. All of these Sheep fucking flockers need to be deprogrammed before the blow the world up for peace in the name of God.

quote:Originally posted by owned:

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

I guess ancient egypt, greece, china, ireland, the aztecs, mayans, the french, the persians and babylonians, the roman empire, and a thousand other nations, they were all primitive "shit"?

So nobody had civilizations or moral codes, or their own mythology, until they were converted by christians and muslims?

quote:Originally posted by owned:

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

That unification is a great perversion. People need to learn tolerance and self-sufficiency, so that we can leave behind all those architectures that are corrosive to the human soul. Christianity is a pollutant of the soul. It strips every ineffable and sublimate trait out of you and replaces it with the nicety and formula of the religion. It leaves you as nothing but an integument, housing a host of replicating ideological artifacts like some vessel, and so your humanness is taken away.

Your like robots in another sense. I can take you apart. Meme by meme, falsified moral by moral, etc; all these are the parts that make you, in the strictest sense, your mind and personality. They put you together, they built you. I have more respect for my dogs then Christians, I have more respect for the squirrels and birds then I do Christians.

quote:Originally posted by owned:

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

Our current civilization is based on the discoveries of people who believed in polytheism. Would we have mathematics, architecture or astronomy without the Greeks, Egyptians or Babylonians? The advantage of polytheism is that it glorifies diversity; there is a God there to protect you whoever you are. And respect for each other and our differences is what leads to unity, not the elimination of the differences.

It is monotheism that has done its best to keep us primitive.

quote:Originally posted by owned:

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

Monotheism is the primitive religion which centers human consciousness on Hive Authority. There is One God and His Name is ------- (substitute Hive-Label). If there is only One God then there is no choice, no option, no selection of reality. There is only Submission or Heresy. The word Islam means 'submission'. The basic posture of Christianity is kneeling. Thy will be done.

- Timothy Leary

quote:Originally posted by jb_mcbean:

Or Scandinavians would be killing everyone because "it's what Thor would want."?



Vikings ruined people's shit as a matter of principle.

Also, Odin was the god of war so they would probably do it on his account.

The Romans fought the punic wars, the Greeks fought in the peloponnesian wars, the greco-persian war and god knows how many other wars before the empire became christian.

The aztecs beat the fuck out of other native americans all the time.

Genghis Khan owned more faces than any person in the history of the world and he was a shamanist.

My point? No matter what your religious beliefs, people are still assholes for the most part and are always going to find something to fight about.

quote:Originally posted by owned:

The world would be shit, as a one god system is neede to unify people. It gives on set of morla rules, so civilisation would be primitive without it.

Didn't we already go over this with you?

Gee, I guess the Romans and their huge empire weren't unified. Or the Egyptians, who have remained a nation for thousands and thousands of years. Or the Chinese, who had toilet paper when the Jews were still figuring out how to grunt. It's a good thing that we have monotheistic religions now... they've ended all strife and discord. Whoever heard of adherents to Christianity or Islam indulging in violence?!

Looking at the historical record, I'd actually say the polytheistic religions have served to unify and moralize much more successfully.

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quote:Originally posted by TheMessiahComplex:

Vikings ruined people's shit as a matter of principle.

Also, Odin was the god of war so they would probably do it on his account.

The Romans fought the punic wars, the Greeks fought in the peloponnesian wars, the greco-persian war and god knows how many other wars before the empire became christian.

The aztecs beat the fuck out of other native americans all the time.

Genghis Khan owned more faces than any person in the history of the world and he was a shamanist.

My point? No matter what your religious beliefs, people are still assholes for the most part and are always going to find something to fight about.

Yeah but what would you rather, being burned at the stake for not believing something, or being sacrificed for something you personally believed in. Plus the Vikings were fucking cool, whereas crusaders were just gay, and without Genghis Khan who would have reopened the silk road?

The point is, the abrahamic faiths are the only religions where people have unwillingly died for, all the others it was consensual murder, except maybe the aztec human sacrifices, but come on, even priests have to eat, and human heart might be quite tasty.

The aztecs didnt just sacrifice their own people. They went out and conquered other tribes, because that's just how they roll. Yea, they did end up sacrificing a lot of them for religious reasons but they didnt conquer them solely to fuel sacrifices. That was the spoils of war so to speak.

quote:Plus the Vikings were fucking cool, whereas crusaders were just gay,

I agree, though that isn't really relevant.

quote:without Genghis Khan who would have reopened the silk road?

Yea, Genghis Khan did a lot of great things. United the mongols, established trade routes, set up the world's largest empire at the time, allowed freedom of religion, plowed more women than thought humanly possible, etc. But that doesn't change the fact that he still killed a shit load of people, and wasnt motivated by his religious beliefs to do so, which is the point of mentioning him in the context of this thread.

There is only one true religion!

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism!

May all be touched by his noodly appendage.

Amen.

quote:Originally posted by TheMessiahComplex:

The aztecs didnt just sacrifice their own people. They went out and conquered other tribes, because that's just how they roll. Yea, they did end up sacrificing a lot of them for religious reasons but they didnt conquer them solely to fuel sacrifices. That was the spoils of war so to speak.

I agree, though that isn't really relevant.



Yea, Genghis Khan did a lot of great things. United the mongols, established trade routes, set up the world's largest empire at the time, allowed freedom of religion, plowed more women than thought humanly possible, etc. But that doesn't change the fact that he still killed a shit load of people, and wasnt motivated by his religious beliefs to do so, which is the point of mentioning him in the context of this thread.

Yeah I realised that I was just being immature. But I'd still rather be killed by any of those people than by Christians, Jews or Muslims. And at least we wouldn't be being killed in the name of a god we didn't believe in. (unless we lived in mexico)

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quote:Originally posted by ignis invictus veritatis:

There is only one true religion!

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism!

May all be touched by his noodly appendage.

Amen.

Praise him! Praise him!

It didn't happen, so getting up in arms about it is a waste of energy.

What do we do now that they are here?

quote:Originally posted by Infectedgoose:

It didn't happen, so getting up in arms about it is a waste of energy.

What do we do now that they are here?

Once again jewishgoose, you have totaly missed the mark and as always, posting your trite babblings on someones eles's thread. Just go away.

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quote:Originally posted by Infectedgoose:

It didn't happen, so getting up in arms about it is a waste of energy.

What do we do now that they are here?

Bitch about them and set up cliques that they can't be members of.

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quote:Originally posted by THE ONLY SANE MAN:

Once again jewishgoose, you have totaly missed the mark and as always, posting your trite babblings on someones eles's thread. Just go away.



Jewish goose? Watching too much South Park, I see. Every thread is someone else's thread, kid.

quote:Vikings ruined people's shit as a matter of principle.

Also, Odin was the god of war so they would probably do it on his account.

The Romans fought the punic wars, the Greeks fought in the peloponnesian wars, the greco-persian war and god knows how many other wars before the empire became christian.

The aztecs beat the fuck out of other native americans all the time.

Genghis Khan owned more faces than any person in the history of the world and he was a shamanist.

My point? No matter what your religious beliefs, people are still assholes for the most part and are always going to find something to fight about.

Sure, people will always be assholes to each other. It's human nature.

But just because someone's being an asshole to someone else, doesn't mean he's being an asshole because of his relgion.

Right or wrong, all of those examples were done separate from their individual beliefs. The Abrahamic relgions are the only relgions that have started crusades, jihads, inquisitions, whatever. Religious wars.

The concept and goal behind them is generally a good idea, but when that idea is brought from "lets not kill each other, or steal, or be assholes if we can avoid it," to "there is one God, and we will avoid these sins because He says so, and anybody that denies His existence is inherently evil and must be cleansed," it becomes not such a good idea.

it would be hindus vs zoroastrians

quote:Originally posted by Mantikore:

it would be hindus vs zoroastrians

Hinduism is a pretty open religion from what I’ve read about it. It incorporates texts from various other religions and believes all the religions are correct and just a separate path to, or understanding of, Brahman. At least I think that that is correct, correct me if I am wrong… although there is a couple disturbing sub-groups.