Some of you may remember a few weeks ago that Azzzzzam the American, who is really just a fat ass smelly bitch that was raised by rich white parents in Southern California and converted to islam, gave america the cchance to convert to the "glorius enlightenment that is Islam"

There have been thousands of muslims killing each other because they are different muslims still arguing about something from over 500 years ago. Why would us non muslims want to convert to a religion that the smelly throwbacks who practice it keep telling that they're going to wipe us out, when they'll kill us anyways if we did convert.

Fuck Islam and these stupid fucking converts....

quote:Originally posted by ismokecamelstr8s:

Some of you may remember a few weeks ago that Azzzzzam the American, who is really just a fat ass smelly bitch that was raised by rich white parents in Southern California and converted to islam, gave america the cchance to convert to the "glorius enlightenment that is Islam"

There have been thousands of muslims killing each other because they are different muslims still arguing about something from over 500 years ago. Why would us non muslims want to convert to a religion that the smelly throwbacks who practice it keep telling that they're going to wipe us out, when they'll kill us anyways if we did convert.

Fuck Islam and these stupid fucking converts....

Your ignorance cannot be more apparent.

There have also been thousands of Christians who killed each other and murdered those who wouldn't convert.

I do not mean to single Christianity, but I am just trying to make you realize that violence in religion is not soley of Islamic origin.

The lack of tolerance and understanding you have is really sad.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:



The lack of tolerance and understanding you have is really sad.

Yeah, but they're not still doing it! It's the Muslims telling everyone to convert. Not the Christians. No Christians have been in the news lighting each other on fire and chopping each others heads off lately...

That was hundreds of years ago.

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quote:Originally posted by ismokecamelstr8s:

Yeah, but they're not still doing it! It's the Muslims telling everyone to convert. Not the Christians. No Christians have been in the news lighting each other on fire and chopping each others heads off lately...

That was hundreds of years ago.





Ever heard of Jehovahs witnesses, Mormons?

Have you listened to some of the christians here?

The reason that we don't get much in the way of stories about christians fucking each other up is because no-one wants tp here about that, they want to here about muslims.

Anyway.. I have to leave now, no more time for self-righteousness.....

quote:Originally posted by JesuitArtiste:



Ever heard of Jehovahs witnesses, Mormons?

Have you listened to some of the christians here?

The reason that we don't get much in the way of stories about christians fucking each other up is because no-one wants tp here about that, they want to here about muslims.

Anyway.. I have to leave now, no more time for self-righteousness.....

He brings up a very valid point. When it comes to the news media, we only hear what they think we want to hear.

In the current world climate, Muslims killing each other is a much popular idea then Christians killing each other.

I feel bad for the person who started this thread though. Obviously, he didn't come up with these ideas himself, but probably heard another say it and thought it would be cool to repeat.

BTW, in the past month, I have had a two separate groups of Mormons and a Jehovah Witness come to my house. But, not one person trying to convert me to Islam.

Again, you are wrong.

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Yea, Christians never kill people....

LOL I GUT AN IDEAR

LET'S NOT BE ANYTHING!

LET'S BE FUCKING HUMAN.

Don't post if you're going to generalize that all muslims want to kill people. You focus on the 5% of extremeists when there is a whole other 95%. Besides, if you ever get a chance to read the Koran its amazing I've never seen such great poetry anywhere else. So learn something from this thread and don't generalize.

Okay, I think we can all agree with the fact that there's a lot of people out there; both Christian and Muslim that are good, and some that are bad. Let's just kill all the evil ones and let god sort them out.

Muslim's call the unbeliever kafir.

'slim's are the kafirs fo denying Christ.

quote:Originally posted by duncdunc68:



Muslim's call the unbeliever kafir.

'slim's are the kafirs fo denying Christ.

What is the point of your statement?

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

What is the point of your statement?



Muslim's are hypocrites.

Double edged point.

I'm fucking scared. If everybody gets all converted to muslimism, they're gonna go out and kill ... somebody... I don't know. But this sounds like something I really need to worry about. Donch noe bout yall.

quote:Originally posted by Viraljimmy:

I'm fucking scared. If everybody gets all converted to muslimism, they're gonna go out and kill ... somebody... I don't know. But this sounds like something I really need to worry about. Donch noe bout yall.

huh?

Heh, makes my thread sound useless.

quote:Originally posted by duncdunc68:

Muslim's are hypocrites.

Double edged point.

Most religions are hypocritical. That is not an exclusive trait of Islam.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

Most religions are hypocritical. That is not an exclusive trait of Islam.

So what's hypocritical about Judaism?

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http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002547.html

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/02/boys-escape-from-madrassa-in-chains.html



July 12, 2006

Pakistan: Muslim Teacher Blows Himself Up In Class

One wonders exactly what sort of subjects are on the curriculum in Pakistan's madrassas, or Islamic seminaries. News from Agence France Press via the Daily Times reports that in the divisional district of Dera Ismail Khan, in North-West Frontier Province, a man believed to be a pro-Taliban militant killed himself by accident in a religious school.

Apparently he was handling the grenade when it went off. He has been identified as Abdul Rahman. A security official said on condition of anonymity that the pin on his grenade was accidentally removed, and that two of his companions were wounded in the blast.

The incident happened in the town of Jandola, which lies next to South Waziristan district, where Pakistan Taliban have taken control, and have instituted Sharia law in the main city of Wana.

The issue of extremist Islam being taught in such madrassas has been questioned after two of the 7/7 bombers, Shehzad Tanweer and Mohammed Sidique Khan, were said to have attended an extremist madrassa in Pakistan before carrying out their suicide attacks in London last year. As a result, in July last year, 1,400 foreign students at madassas were asked to leave. In August, registration forms were handed to seminaries, requesting details of funding and spending.

Last August, the Daily Times noted that even standard school textbooks in state schools were advocating extremism, outside of the private madrassa system. These books describe Jews as tightfisted money-lenders, and Christians are vengeful conquerors. One standard school textbook even states that children should be willing to die as martyrs for Islam.

As we reported last September, the private madrassas have become havens for sexual and physical abuse of students. Some madrassas regularly keep their students tied up in chains. Chaining of children in madrassas also happens in India.

There are at least 20,000 madrassas in Pakistan, and at the end of last year, madrassas were given a deadline of December 31 to register and submit financial audits and performance records. The idea was then abandoned. 12,000 madrassas had not signed their registrations.

A similar move to register madrassas and have them disclose their accounts was urged by Musharraf in Spring, 2002, but this too appears to have been ignored. Most of the leadership of Afghanistan's Taliban were educated in Pakistani Deobandi madrassas, such as the Haqqania in North-West Frontier Province, where Mullah Omar was trained.

Now, apparently 75% of madrassas have registered, states Radio Australia, and Pakistan's foreign minister, Khursheed Kasuri, states that with registration, a system of curbing extremism can be negotiated.

Reuters reports that Kasuri has said in Washington: "We have done a lot. A lot more needs to be done. There's no tolerance for anybody who is teaching people how to fight. The government takes very strong action."

Next week, Javed Ashraf Qazi, the education minister, will be visiting Washington for talks, and to discuss changes within the madrassa system.

About a million boys are "educated" in the madrassas, and for many poor families, such an education is regarded as acceptable. The boys are fed and often boarded at these madrassas, and the families do not have to pay for this. Khursheed Kasuri has admitted that one obstacle to reform is that "madrassas are a major NGO and the poorest of the poor go there."

The federal government of Pakistan has now asked, states the Daily Times for a full list of madrassas which are being funded by militants in the North-West Frontier Province.

The incident in Jandola underscores the urgent necessity of such action. The NWFP administration (it has its own Assembly) has been asked to monitor the activities of these seminaries.

Sources at the Home Department state that madrassas which had previously been closed down are now re-opening, this time at the private residences of the madrassa teachers. Intelligence agencies have also been charged to keep tabs on madrassas, and inform the federal government of their findings.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

He brings up a very valid point. When it comes to the news media, we only hear what they think we want to hear.

In the current world climate, Muslims killing each other is a much popular idea then Christians killing each other.

I feel bad for the person who started this thread though. Obviously, he didn't come up with these ideas himself, but probably heard another say it and thought it would be cool to repeat.

BTW, in the past month, I have had a two separate groups of Mormons and a Jehovah Witness come to my house. But, not one person trying to convert me to Islam.

Again, you are wrong.



“OBVIOUSLY, HE DIDN'T COME UP WITH THESE IDEAS HIMSELF, BUT PROBABLY HEARD ANOTHER SAY IT AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO REPEAT.”

Yep he probably did. Maybe it was some of those cool pictures from Iran showing thousands of people chanting “death to Israel” “Death to America” after their president gave a rousing speech denouncing both Israel and us and the West in general.

“BTW, IN THE PAST MONTH, I HAVE HAD A TWO SEPARATE GROUPS OF MORMONS AND A JEHOVAH WITNESS COME TO MY HOUSE. BUT, NOT ONE PERSON TRYING TO CONVERT ME TO ISLAM.”

Now did either of these two groups threaten to kill you if you not convert to their religion? Or that you would become a virtual slave for them if you did not convert. I suspect not.

Here is a suggestion. If someone publicly states that they what to kill all nonbelievers, and in the past have demonstrated their willingness to do just that, then maybe you might want to seriously consider “taking them at their word”!

quote:Originally posted by kurdt318:

Besides, if you ever get a chance to read the Koran its amazing I've never seen such great poetry anywhere else.



Really??? And when you were reading the Quran you were smoking what????

Fuck slam I'm sparkin !

quote:Originally posted by ismokecamelstr8s:

There have been thousands of muslims killing each other because they are different muslims still arguing about something from over 500 years ago.



A bit like Northern Ireland.

join the

lol y u preach me club

christians have been trying to convert the world since the beginning, and havent stopped

quote:Originally posted by JesuitArtiste:



Ever heard of Jehovahs witnesses, Mormons?

Have you listened to some of the christians here?

The reason that we don't get much in the way of stories about christians fucking each other up is because no-one wants tp here about that, they want to here about muslims.

Anyway.. I have to leave now, no more time for self-righteousness.....

The reason we(referring to America) don't hear about that in the news is because the majority of America is christian(Although I am not). Who wants to hear their own religion getting bashed on national television?

quote:Originally posted by Spock:



Really??? And when you were reading the Quran you were smoking what????

This proves your ignorance.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

This proves your ignorance.





"BESIDES, IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO READ THE KORAN ITS AMAZING I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH GREAT POETRY ANYWHERE ELSE."

Well if you think murder, torture, thievery, slavery, terrorism, deception, intolerance, etc. are goals that are worth striving for.

Then I can see how you would think the Quran might read like poetry.

quote:Originally posted by Spock:



"BESIDES, IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO READ THE KORAN ITS AMAZING I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH GREAT POETRY ANYWHERE ELSE."

Well if you think murder, torture, thievery, slavery, terrorism, deception, intolerance, etc. are goals that are worth striving for.

Then I can see how you would think the Quran might read like poetry.

I highly doubt he was referring to those parts of the Quran. However, you are right, all those things are mentioned in the Quran, as they are in the Bible.

Does all the bullshit the Bible talks about take away from some of its moral teachings?

No.

Then why should the evil things the Quran talks about take away from its poetic value.

Salman Rushdie rightly refers to the quran as Satanic Verses.

Voice of God dictating 'the message'

More like fukin' schizophrenia.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

I highly doubt he was referring to those parts of the Quran. However, you are right, all those things are mentioned in the Quran, as they are in the Bible.

Does all the bullshit the Bible talks about take away from some of its moral teachings?

No.

Then why should the evil things the Quran talks about take away from its poetic value.

*sigh*

If only more people would realise this.

quote:Originally posted by duncdunc68:

Salman Rushdie rightly refers to the quran as Satanic Verses.

Voice of God dictating 'the message'

More like fukin' schizophrenia.



Wow you have no idea about what you're talking about do you?

The whole satanic verses reference just flew right over your head.

That is just your interpretation and it sounds like you know what you're talking about.

While at it masterful sage, check symptoms of schizophrenia in DSM4. I won't repeat as I'm sure you are already aware, but islam is based on the rantings of a schizophrenic epileptic murdering raping paedophile thief . It just shows God's forgiveness.

(btw all the above is verifiable)

quote:Originally posted by duncdunc68:

I won't repeat as I'm sure you are already aware, but islam is based on the rantings of a schizophrenic epileptic murdering raping paedophile thief . It just shows God's forgiveness.

(btw all the above is verifiable)



Most religions are founded by schizophrenic epileptic murdering raping paedophile thieves. Thats why they're so nutty.

Islam is officialy the new Red Fear.

quote:Originally posted by yango wango:

Islam is officialy the new Red Fear.

And look what happened to the first!

Check out this news you fuckers that doubt (http://tinyurl.com/y5xrtq)

quote:Originally posted by ismokecamelstr8s:

Yeah, but they're not still doing it! It's the Muslims telling everyone to convert. Not the Christians. ... That was hundreds of years ago.

Televangelists. The odd idiot who comes on to TOTSE and posts 'Lawl become Christian, it's the only real religion'. Jehova's Witnesses. Hell, the President of America has advocated Hayzeus more than once. Christians never stopped trying to convert people, foo', people are just getting used to them.

i got a Quran in the mail, only thing in the return address was "Spread the word!"

quote:Originally posted by ismokecamelstr8s:

Some of you may remember a few weeks ago that the American, who is really just a fat ass smelly bitch that was raised by rich white parents in Southern California and converted to islam, gave america the cchance to convert to the "glorius enlightenment that is Islam"

There have been thousands of muslims killing each other because they are different muslims still arguing about something from over 500 years ago. Why would us non muslims want to convert to a religion that the smelly throwbacks who practice it keep telling that they're going to wipe us out, when they'll kill us anyways if we did convert.

Fuck Islam and these stupid fucking converts....



It's the same situation with Christianity, you have no idea how over-biased you are towards your own religion.



When it comes to religion it is all about what you believe in.

There are various morals to be learned from them though, no matter what the faith.

have you heard of the goddamn crusades?

fuck religion as a whole man...

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

The lack of tolerance and understanding you have is really sad.

Using the word 'tolerance' is really sad.

I swear, mass media is more effective than any propganda dreamt up by totalitarian regimes...

The problem is not christians, muslims, or hindus, it's religion in itself.

This reminds me of a really weird thing that happened to me last year in highschool. I was in a Seventh Day Adventist school and the teacher thought I was the least likely to start something so he let me and my buddy come on a trip to a Mosqe (spelling is messed up, its supposed to be a Muslim church).

When we got there they where just starting to do one of their sermons, which blew me away becuase last thing I heard was we where only supposed to meet the church leaders and look around, not actualy participate.

So right away they split the whole group in half and made the women go into a seperate room, right there made me think I had just ended up like those soldiers in "Forest Gump" who walked right into the Vietcong killzone.

The whole sermon was a subtle poke against the American government and Christianity, the guy kept screaming about how "Allah" was going to strike down the non-beleivers. That really got me because he was screaming like he was going to start a lynching, and I wasn't packed but my buddy is alot slower then me so I couldn't just split if the shit hit the fan, plus they had numbers around 4-1 so overpowering them wasn't a valid option.

Then after they where done they gave everyone a copy of the Quar-an (again spelling is messed, I mean the Muslim bible), which is kind of odd for someone to do unless they want to convert people.

We finaly left and on the bus ride back I asked my buddy if he felt like they where preaching a odd subject on a day a bunch of christians would be visiting. He didn't really get it, maybe because he wasn't paying any attention or because it was hard to understand what the guy was saying since he was literaly screaming and had a thick accent.

Long post but It was just a example on why you don't trust teachers in highschool.

quote:Originally posted by duncdunc68:



Muslim's call the unbeliever kafir.

'slim's are the kafirs fo denying Christ.



Ignorance once again, Muslims do believe in Jesus...

quote:Originally posted by Spock:



"BESIDES, IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO READ THE KORAN ITS AMAZING I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH GREAT POETRY ANYWHERE ELSE."

Well if you think murder, torture, thievery, slavery, terrorism, deception, intolerance, etc. are goals that are worth striving for.

Then I can see how you would think the Quran might read like poetry.

What the FUCK?! Again, you probably heared this somewhere and are just repeating, the koran has no such thing, on the contrary, it says that you are NOT allowed to do all those things, to be honest, the Koran is beautifull, you are just too ignorant and stubborn to see with your own eyes...

quote:Originally posted by the_boogiman:

What the FUCK?! Again, you probably heared this somewhere and are just repeating, the koran has no such thing, on the contrary, it says that you are NOT allowed to do all those things, to be honest, the Koran is beautifull, you are just too ignorant and stubborn to see with your own eyes...

I don't mean to disagree with you but I did open the Koran and while it does speak about being against open violence it also promote Jihad which is focused violence.

If the Koran is so beautiful, how can so many different people interpret it the wrong way? Muhammed's last wife was a nine year old girl. He supposedly waited one year to consecrate the marraige

That's pretty sick. How can a nine or ten year old girl get pleasure out of some sicko raping them?

That's the person all the muzzies worship. Really beautiful. Not Disgusting...



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quote:Originally posted by the_boogiman:

What the FUCK?! Again, you probably heared this somewhere and are just repeating, the koran has no such thing, on the contrary, it says that you are NOT allowed to do all those things, to be honest, the Koran is beautifull, you are just too ignorant and stubborn to see with your own eyes...

You are right a Muslim is not allowed to do those things to ANOTHER MUSLIM. But to an infidel will that is a different story!

“I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”



“So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”

“So enjoy what you took as booty; the spoils are lawful and good.”

“Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”

quote:Originally posted by the_boogiman:

What the FUCK?! Again, you probably heared this somewhere and are just repeating, the koran has no such thing, on the contrary, it says that you are NOT allowed to do all those things, to be honest, the Koran is beautifull, you are just too ignorant and stubborn to see with your own eyes...

So you believe that He is God!

Al-Fuckin-Ham-Du-Lillah!

So boogiman is in favor of raping ten year old girls?

Peace Be Upon You

Do't Ever Even Think To Hurt Muslims..

Peace Be Upon You

Actually...

U Have 2 Wash Your Mouth Well With Nice Aroma B4 U Talk About Muslims..

And..

Peace Be Upon You

quote:Originally posted by rabbitweed:

Using the word 'tolerance' is really sad.

I swear, mass media is more effective than any propganda dreamt up by totalitarian regimes...

Your ignorance is quite sad. What would make you think that my use of the word "tolerance" has anything to do with mass media.

I have more then enough power to formulate my own opinions, without the help of others.

You do not know me nor can you grasp any of my beliefs, yet you assume I am a fool who follows the mass media.

That is true ignorance.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

Your ignorance is quite sad. What would make you think that my use of the word "tolerance" has anything to do with mass media.

I have more then enough power to formulate my own opinions, without the help of others.

You do not know me nor can you grasp any of my beliefs, yet you assume I am a fool who follows the mass media.

That is true ignorance.

Peace B Upon U

Can i aSk u Q ?

R u Muslim.

If yEs,I Want 2 Corporate WiTh U Against Any 1 Miss With Islam & Muslim.

aNd...

Peace B Upon U

It's a sin to try to convert someone in Islam.

Oh, and what you said is false. If I had a nickel for every time someone asked me what religion I was and when I told them they replied with something having to do with me going to hell...

Yep. Muslims are deamonized for trying to convert people. If I had a penny for every time the christians justified invading a soverign nation on the premise of spreading Jesus I'd be a rich man! One of the main reasons modern Western civilization exists is the forcefull spread of christianity! Don't give me that shit.

quote:Originally posted by Fuck:

LOL I GUT AN IDEAR

LET'S NOT BE ANYTHING!

LET'S BE FUCKING HUMAN.

Amen! http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)