"44 percent of Americans believe that Jesus will return to Earth within 50 years.

Despite a full century of scientific insights attesting to the antiquity of life and the greater antiquity of the Earth, more than half the American population believes that the entire cosmos was created 6,000 years ago. This is, incidentally, about a thousand years after the Sumerians invented glue. Those with the power to elect presidents and congressmen—and many who themselves get elected—believe that dinosaurs lived two by two upon Noah's Ark, that light from distant galaxies was created en route to the Earth and that the first members of our species were fashioned out of dirt and divine breath, in a garden with a talking snake, by the hand of an invisible God."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15566391/site/newsweek

wow.....just wow

44% is not more then half.

but yeah this is pretty sad.

This is exactly why few people are rich and many are poor; most people are idiots. You dont see many wealthy people going to church

quote:Originally posted by Jeebus Mic:

"44 percent of Americans

'nuff said.

quote:Originally posted by crazy maniac:

44% is not more then half.

but yeah this is pretty sad.

that's 44% believe the rapture is coming in 50 years, and half are young-earthers.

i wonder what percentage of that 44% support the war on terror as a way of bringing on armageddon?

They're just saying that to help us take over the world.

I don't believe that's true. If it is, moving to Latin American country FTW! (can't get any worse there :P)

quote:Originally posted by Jeebus Mic:

"44 percent of Americans believe that Jesus will return to Earth within 50 years.

Despite a full century of scientific insights attesting to the antiquity of life and the greater antiquity of the Earth, more than half the American population believes that the entire cosmos was created 6,000 years ago. This is, incidentally, about a thousand years after the Sumerians invented glue. Those with the power to elect presidents and congressmen—and many who themselves get elected—believe that dinosaurs lived two by two upon Noah's Ark, that light from distant galaxies was created en route to the Earth and that the first members of our species were fashioned out of dirt and divine breath, in a garden with a talking snake, by the hand of an invisible God."

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The 6,000 years thing always makes me giggle because it was one fucking archbishops's (Archbishop Usher, that is) word that Genisis happened 6,000 years ago. His cosmic math was askew; he forgot to account for some begettings, the fact that God's time probably doesn't correspond with earth time as the fricken thing wasn't created at that point.

What's more, that means God gave up on his creation's goodness pretty quickly. I mean, just under 4,000 years and he's like, "Oh snap! Son! To earth!" to save our souls.

Yeah, Christians are fun kids. I do prefer the Jahovah's Witnesses, as they don't celebrate the pagan holidays the creators of which they hold such disdain for.

Hey, hey congressmen. You know who Santa really is? The Green Man, you know who the Green Man was also known as? The Horned One. You know where the idea of Satan with horns and a tail came from...?

Jesus is overrated TBH.

^lol

quote:Society the basics, edited by John J. Macionis: although most people in the U.S. claim to be at least somewhat religious, only about 1/3 actually report attending religious services regularly.

I love how most of those people who are christians think everyone who doesn't believe is damned, and that they themselves are going to get into heaven. Even when the bible says, Matthew 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

and,

Matthew 7: 21-23 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.'

'Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonder is Your name?'

'And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

evangelists are taking over the US, inlcluding there government.

pretty scary if you ask me. and something need sto be done about it, but is it too late?

religion should be completly seperate from state, but in the US its not. In canada it is to a degree, since we did get gay marriage passed but the religious folk are constantly trying to get that debate going again, when people are saying shut the fuck up about it already

None of this is new btw. Look up 1844 and Millerism.

Those damn New England states.

de Tocqueville says the American people are uninformed.

quote:Originally posted by gmail:

This is exactly why few people are rich and many are poor; most people are idiots. You dont see many wealthy people going to church



Not everyone cares about money.

I think that religion has prevented the human race from reaching its best. If there was no religion then medicine would be so much further ahead, stem cell research could have helped cure desieses and all those dumb ass people who think that the rapture is coming. They are the people who dont care about this planet(Bush)and will keep destroying it because they think that they will be transported away from earth and all us non believers will suffer.



Religion is a waste of time. Religion has wasted time. Religion wont get any of my time.

Thank goodness some people still believe in somethings they can't understand. If not for this ability we may never have gone to the moon, or discovered what's inside an atom.

Cheers,

Lost

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Thank goodness some people still believe in somethings they can't understand. If not for this ability we may never have gone to the moon, or discovered what's inside an atom.

Cheers,

Lost

i agree. religion has brought us great advances. for example, look what christianity has done for astronomy and evolution.

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quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

'nuff said.



Because remember,all Americans are fat,overeating people who walk around in Walmart all day with their 3 bratty kids.

Right guys?

quote:Originally posted by 33% God:

Because remember,all Americans are fat,overeating people who walk around in Walmart all day with their 3 bratty kids.

Right guys?

I am one of those, but at least I'm nota christian.

I can't wrap my head around how so many people can blindly believe all that. It's just so mindboggling. And quite scary too, especially when people like that gain some power.

quote:Originally posted by Mr_untrustworthy:

I think that religion has prevented the human race from reaching its best.



actually in the evolution of the species, there's a corellation of religious artefacts and increasing brain size. neandetals used the same stone tools for millions of years, then at the same time as we find evidence of religion they start making different tools and getting bigger brains. deep religious beliefs are what makes us human, we don't need to get rid of religion we just need some better ones.

Same 44% that doesnt believe in evolution... The "American Taliban."

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quote:Originally posted by kenwih:

i agree. religion has brought us great advances. for example, look what christianity has done for astronomy and evolution.

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I wasn't even talking about religion per se. I was talking about how important it is for people to be able to imagine and believe in things that they don't completely understand or aren't positive exist. It's important for the evolution of the human race to have faith in the unknown.

But, I'm not surprised you didn't get it.

*yawn*

You people bore me.

Cheers,

Lost

Jesus already returned... then died of starvation.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Thank goodness some people still believe in somethings they can't understand. If not for this ability we may never have gone to the moon, or discovered what's inside an atom.

Cheers,

Lost

I got what you said. I agree with you, but I think sometimes it's this belief that cause pride, aloofness, the feeling of rightousness and discrimination, prejiduce etc.

I guess we could thank you for pointing out another perspective, so thanks.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

I wasn't even talking about religion per se. I was talking about how important it is for people to be able to imagine and believe in things that they don't completely understand or aren't positive exist. It's important for the evolution of the human race to have faith in the unknown.

But, I'm not surprised you didn't get it.

*yawn*

You people bore me.

Cheers,

Lost



if you weren't talking about religion, then you were off-topic.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

I wasn't even talking about religion per se. I was talking about how important it is for people to be able to imagine and believe in things that they don't completely understand or aren't positive exist. It's important for the evolution of the human race to have faith in the unknown.

But, I'm not surprised you didn't get it.

*yawn*

You people bore me.

Cheers,

Lost

You intrigue me.

quote:Originally posted by kenwih:



if you weren't talking about religion, then you were off-topic.

I think faith is what she was talking about...sadly, something many people who claim to be religous lack severely.

It'll probably be a big Bel Air. If he does come back to Earth in the next 50 years, he'll probably come out through will smith.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

Thank goodness some people still believe in somethings they can't understand. If not for this ability we may never have gone to the moon, or discovered what's inside an atom.

Cheers,

Lost

Yes, we would have. Physicists didn't say "oh, I bet there's quarks and stuff inside an atom!" They never believed in anything they didn't understand. They looked first. They were logical. They didn't have faith in the existance of quarks and electrons. We didn't get to the moon by blind faith, we got to the moon by carefully cataloging new facts, extrapolating from what we knew, experimenting, and working hard.

Belief in things for which there is no evidence is not conducive to scientific progress.

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

I wasn't even talking about religion per se. I was talking about how important it is for people to be able to imagine and believe in things that they don't completely understand or aren't positive exist. It's important for the evolution of the human race to have faith in the unknown.

Imagination is fine. Belief in what is clearly imaginary, however, is not.

Faith in the unknown? What exactly are you having faith in? That it's unknown? That's not what religious people do at all, and before you say you weren't talking about religious people note that you were thanking goodness for the religious people mentioned in the topic post.

The religious actually believe there is no unknown; they have it all figured out. That's not conducive to the pursuit of knowledge.

quote:You people bore me.

Oh yes, the great wise LostCause. Gravity is magnetic, indeed... and you never admitted you were wrong.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

Faith in the unknown? What exactly are you having faith in?

There are lots of things that aren't known for a fact that people believe in. They don't know it, they believe it.

That's not what religious people do at all

I can't vouche for all religious people, but believing in god is what most religious people do. They don't say "I know god exists" (well some do, but they're ignorant), they say "I believe god exists." Big difference.

thanking goodness for the religious people mentioned in the topic post.

No. I said "thank good some people still believe in somethings they can't understand." Nowhere in that statement is there the mention of religious people, god, or spiritual faith at all.

Oh yes, the great wise LostCause. Gravity is magnetic, indeed... and you never admitted you were wrong.

We would not have gravity on the planet if it were not for the magnetic pull of the solar system. Prove to me I'm wrong and I'll gladly admit it. I like to learn new things.

Cheers,

Lost

quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

We would not have gravity on the planet if it were not for the magnetic pull of the solar system.



What?

I thought gravity was a simple relationship between the mass and distance between two particles that creates an apparent attractive force between them. Similar to magnetism, but also very similar (math-wise) to electrical attraction.

How does the magnetic forces in the solar system create gravity on Earth? That doesn't even make sense as magnetic forces will be relative to the center of the solar system, not the center of the Earth. Wouldn't that make gravity sideways some places on the planet? http://www.totse.com/bbs/eek.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/eek.gif)

Imagination, ideas, and above all curiosity are what matters.

44% of Americans are morons. I'm in the 56 percentile.

That just means 44% of N.Americans who were polled believed that.

If I go to a church and poll everyone there, I could even say 100% believed the same.

I was never asked. Therefore, this poll is wrong.

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Polls are bullshit.

Jesus did come back. He's in a mental hospital because no one belived him. He's in the room between the guy that thinks he's the Jolly Green Giant, and the guy that thinks he's Michael Jackson.

quote:Originally posted by halo007:

Jesus did come back. He's in a mental hospital because no one belived him. He's in the room between the guy that thinks he's the Jolly Green Giant, and the guy that thinks he's Michael Jackson.

Hahaha...it's so true.

Jesus is already in America....he crossed the Rio Grande last year and is now doing landscape work in North Carolina.

quote:Originally posted by chickenpoop:

Jesus is already in America....he crossed the Rio Grande last year and is now doing landscape work in North Carolina.

This made me lol for the past 5 min.

quote:Originally posted by crazy maniac:

44% is not more then half.

but yeah this is pretty sad.

More than half believe in God, not the second coming of jesus, dumbass.

--Cr@sh

I call bullshit.

quote:Originally posted by bitplane:

actually in the evolution of the species, there's a corellation of religious artefacts and increasing brain size. neandetals used the same stone tools for millions of years, then at the same time as we find evidence of religion they start making different tools and getting bigger brains. deep religious beliefs are what makes us human, we don't need to get rid of religion we just need some better ones.

corellation doesn't equal causation.

The most likely, and most widely accepted scenario is that better tools, led to more free time to think, resulting in increased brain size and the ability to invent religion.

quote:Originally posted by Mr_untrustworthy:

I think that religion has prevented the human race from reaching its best. If there was no religion then medicine would be so much further ahead, stem cell research could have helped cure desieses and all those dumb ass people who think that the rapture is coming. They are the people who dont care about this planet(Bush)and will keep destroying it because they think that they will be transported away from earth and all us non believers will suffer.



Religion is a waste of time. Religion has wasted time. Religion wont get any of my time.

God prevented the human race from tearing itself apart along time ago.

Just for fun I'd like to take a poll and see how many people think satan is going to come to earth.

All those poeple believe in that and when some guy kills 20 people and says "the devil made me do it" they still give him the chair? what a country http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

let the rapture take away these morons we can do much better without them

quote:Originally posted by serracruz:

let the rapture take away these morons we can do much better without them

And where would they go?

I wouldn't think Satan wants another bitch load of people. Imagine all the paperwork he has to fill out just to be ruler of hell.

I read about this in Sam harris booka while ago, pretty astounding.

Its actually something like 22% are SURE he will and 22% think he probably will but still.....amazing.

I feel sorry for you americans...

quote:Originally posted by SHARP:

I feel sorry for you americans...



So do I, then according to 'Mr Bean' , God had a row with their Founding Fathers and damned the whole race in perpetuity! :P

quote:There are lots of things that aren't known for a fact that people believe in. They don't know it, they believe it.



Actually - there is only one thing that is known for a fact beyond any doubt. That is that there are thoughts.

quote:they say "I believe god exists."

What is the point of holding to a belief that after 2000 years still hasn't become justified? That is a sure sign of intellectual honesty.

quote:We would not have gravity on the planet if it were not for the magnetic pull of the solar system.

Putting the cart infront of the horse is a problem that most religious people have in all areas of life it appears.

Gravity is the cause of the solar system. The solar system is not the cause of gravity.

Finally Jeebus Mic made a non-liberalbashing thread.

The only conclusion I can make from that data is that 44% of Americans suck my nuts.