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Seriously
2006-12-08, 18:28
This is the paper I promised to deliver in a previous post.

Religion in Society

Religion and religious institutions exist in every country on the earth and many have been around for thousands of years. What is the role that religion and its institutions play in our lives? Peter Berger explains that people socially construct beliefs as a response to the uncertainties in life. In the past such uncertainties were often related to our environment, such as the sun, the moon, lightning, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. Eventually people came to question other things in life such as, what is right or wrong, why are we here, how did we get here, and what happens when we die? Religious beliefs inspire hope in times of distress. They serve as a guide to societies’ morals, and individual values, and affect the structure and function of the family unit. Religion gives people an ideal to live up to and offers up to the imagination the possibility of what our society could be like. One woman I interviewed said, “going to church just makes me feel good and it reminds me of how to live.” Society the basics, edited by John H. Macionis reports, ‘researchers have linked a number of social patterns to strong religious beliefs, including low rates of delinquency among young people and low rates of divorce among adults. According to one recent study, religiosity helps bind children, parents, and local communities in ways that benefit young people, enhancing their educational achievement.’ All of this supports Emile Durkheim’s analysis which suggests religion promotes social cohesion and conformity and gives meaning and purpose to life.

Many people are drawn into a religion by the need to belong and because of the apparent caring attitude of those who declare themselves of one religion or another. Some people seek out religion because they feel like something is lacking in their life and hope that God or spirituality will fill that space they feel inside themselves. When interviewing a woman from Topeka, Kansas, she commented, ‘I go to my church because as soon as I walk in the doors, I can feel the presence of God.’ She went on to say that going to church makes her feel like she belongs and she thinks going to church has made here a better person.

Religious organizations provide a place for like-minded people to meet, organize charity work, and discuss social issues that may conflict with their morals and values. During the 19th century, religious leaders played an important part in a movement to create social equality in America. This movement eventually exploded into the American Civil War and abolished slavery. Religious leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King were at the core of the civil rights movement in the 60’s and 70’s and Mahatma Ghandi triggered massive changes in India and throughout the world with his non-violent protests and political activism. When one enters a church today, there is the possibility of hearing a sermon on political hot topics such as gay rights, abortion, and stem-cell research.

While religion apparently has many benefits it also has it’s downfalls. Religious institutions preach conformity to their own beliefs and hamper creative, individualistic thinking that may differ from the institutions beliefs. Religion can also create tension and act as a barrier between societies and people. One religious leader may preach love and tolerance and another may preach a distrust for those of differing beliefs and call them evil or suggest that we pity and them and teach members to look down on those who don’t conform. I think Pastor Fred Phelps in Topeka, Kansas is an example of this with his, ‘God hates fags’ slogan and his protesting at the funerals of U.S. soldiers. Karl Marx revealed that sometimes ‘religion actually supports social inequality by claiming that the social order is just.’ We can easily see this if we look at the patriarchal religions of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity where women have been placed below or subservient to men. And if we look at the ongoing war between Israel and Palestine we see how religious beliefs can affect the politics of a country and be misused to justify killing. If these are not examples enough, look at the birth of Christianity when Christians were persecuted by the reigning government or to the current issue in Tibet where Buddhism has been outlawed and the ruling government of Buddhist monks are exiled, imprisoned, or tortured by the communist government of China.

All of this tells us that religion has a definite impact on societies throughout the world. Various churches and temple have stood for hundreds of years and, without considering some of their vast libraries, in their architecture alone serve as houses of knowledge and history. The five most popular religions; Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, and Buddhism have been around for thousands of years, helped establish cultural norms, and have even become associated with the identity of countries and cultures across the globe. Not only do religious ideas affect society, they are affected by culture and societal changes. For example more women are assuming leadership positions in religious organizations and gender-neutral language is being used in newly printed religious books.

With travel becoming increasingly faster, cheaper, and easier, we see people traveling and immigrating to countries other than the one in which they were born bringing their beliefs with them and experiencing beliefs and cultures which may be new to them. ‘An increasing number of people are seeking spiritual development outside established religious organizations’ and ‘although most people in the U.S. claim to be at least somewhat religious, only about 1/3 actually report attending religious services regularly.’ With these things taken into consideration, I wonder what the future holds for religion.

All information for this paper was gathered from personal observation, one on one interviews, and Society the basics, edited by John J. Macionis.

[This message has been edited by Seriously (edited 12-08-2006).]

Hexadecimal
2006-12-08, 20:05
Interesting read; I'll give a full comment on it later. Just letting you know someone is going to, though. http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)

Hexadecimal
2006-12-08, 21:36
Religion and religious institutions exist in every country on the earth and many have been around for thousands of years. What is the role that religion and its institutions play in our lives? Peter Berger explains that people socially construct beliefs as a response to the uncertainties in life. In the past such uncertainties were often related to our environment, such as the sun, the moon, lightning, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. Eventually people came to question other things in life such as, what is right or wrong, why are we here, how did we get here, and what happens when we die? Religious beliefs inspire hope in times of distress. They serve as a guide to societies’ morals, and individual values, and affect the structure and function of the family unit. Religion gives people an ideal to live up to and offers up to the imagination the possibility of what our society could be like. One woman I interviewed said, “going to church just makes me feel good and it reminds me of how to live.” Society the basics, edited by John H. Macionis reports, ‘researchers have linked a number of social patterns to strong religious beliefs, including low rates of delinquency among young people and low rates of divorce among adults. According to one recent study, religiosity helps bind children, parents, and local communities in ways that benefit young people, enhancing their educational achievement.’ All of this supports Emile Durkheim’s analysis which suggests religion promotes social cohesion and conformity and gives meaning and purpose to life.

It promotes social cohesion among willing participants in a particular avenue of faith. When religion steps into the bounds of moral doctrine, it acts as a boundary between people; when morals are rooted to a belief one is raised with, or has come to believe as absolute truth, it creates unnecessary tension.

For religion to be a true tool of social cohesion, the idea of 'absolute truth' on any issue other than faith itself has to be eliminated (for even the atheist and agnostic have faith in something). With the notion in most religions that such particular belief is the only correct one, they can only unite the masses so much; and in a particularly cruel way: there is no room for individuality. As religion exists, it reminds me of the Borg on Star Trek; assimilate or die. The ideal religion, if social cohesion is the primary purpose of religion, would be along the lines of: You believe in something to keep you going? Cool! Me too! (obviously simplified, but I think you'll get the jist)

Many people are drawn into a religion by the need to belong and because of the apparent caring attitude of those who declare themselves of one religion or another. Some people seek out religion because they feel like something is lacking in their life and hope that God or spirituality will fill that space they feel inside themselves. When interviewing a woman from Topeka, Kansas, she commented, ‘I go to my church because as soon as I walk in the doors, I can feel the presence of God.’ She went on to say that going to church makes her feel like she belongs and she thinks going to church has made here a better person.

Everybody wants to feel loved; thus I agree entirely that religions which promise a kind God tend to be the main ones...not only for the cosmic tenderness that comforts us when we are alone, but because it carries with it a certain faith in the humans who share the belief in a kind God. Sadly, this faith in humanity is not often spread any further than those who claim the same belief in God, when the underlying conditions that led the individual to their belief exists in everyone.

It's as though two rape victims don't empathize with eachother because one remains extrovert while the other turns introvert; they share the common damage and trauma, but they deal with it differently. I think one of the main reasons this occurs with religions is because people are afraid to admit just how awful they feel sometimes, and just how empty their successes in life are: we all are ignorant of what awaits us, yet are all mystified by it...why can't we recognize the true commonality between all humans, our fear and wonder of the certain death that awaits us? Why do we ignore the true commonality, the very essence of humanity, in favor of a fantasy? We all construct a belief to keep ourselves alive. Why not choose that as the bond, rather than the individual beliefs? It makes me wonder if most people could handle the fear if they were to give it open recognition.

Religious organizations provide a place for like-minded people to meet, organize charity work, and discuss social issues that may conflict with their morals and values. During the 19th century, religious leaders played an important part in a movement to create social equality in America. This movement eventually exploded into the American Civil War and abolished slavery. Religious leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King were at the core of the civil rights movement in the 60’s and 70’s and Mahatma Ghandi triggered massive changes in India and throughout the world with his non-violent protests and political activism. When one enters a church today, there is the possibility of hearing a sermon on political hot topics such as gay rights, abortion, and stem-cell research.

It is the very possibility of hearing someone else provide a lecture on individual-based morals that drives many people away from religion; taking away from its cohesive ability, rather than contributing. Open discussion of moral dilemna is productive to a society; but being lectured as though you are all to abide unfailingly to a particular human's morals begs the question to many: 'Why the fuck should I listen to this guy over my self?'

The benefits of religion in history are easy to see, but so are the flaws. The exclusivity of the current mainstream religions does damage to everyone but the converts.

While religion apparently has many benefits it also has it’s downfalls. Religious institutions preach conformity to their own beliefs and hamper creative, individualistic thinking that may differ from the institutions beliefs. Religion can also create tension and act as a barrier between societies and people. One religious leader may preach love and tolerance and another may preach a distrust for those of differing beliefs and call them evil or suggest that we pity and them and teach members to look down on those who don’t conform. I think Pastor Fred Phelps in Topeka, Kansas is an example of this with his, ‘God hates fags’ slogan and his protesting at the funerals of U.S. soldiers. Karl Marx revealed that sometimes ‘religion actually supports social inequality by claiming that the social order is just.’ We can easily see this if we look at the patriarchal religions of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity where women have been placed below or subservient to men. And if we look at the ongoing war between Israel and Palestine we see how religious beliefs can affect the politics of a country and be misused to justify killing. If these are not examples enough, look at the birth of Christianity when Christians were persecuted by the reigning government or to the current issue in Tibet where Buddhism has been outlawed and the ruling government of Buddhist monks are exiled, imprisoned, or tortured by the communist government of China.

Another thought I've had about human tension: We are animals; just as any other animal, we do have violent capabilities within us. On a large scale, war and other conflicts may actually be necessary to keep peace on the smaller scale. It seems that any time a country is nearing a major ideological split, the only force that can save the nation is an outside enemy. Religion's exclusivity may contribute to this, in a 1984 sort of way. If our focus is on our 'enemy', it's not on our problems; this is true of any nation, but America in particular, the spectrum of thoughts and beliefs has grown so wide, that without a war machine, a civil war would be inevitable.

The racial tension of the mid-1900s wasn't resolved through new legislation or open-mindedness; this country is as racist as ever. But from the 60s and on, we've continuously had a war to fight; something to keep our eyes away. The good Christians of America can't let the godless Commies gain influence; the good Christians can't let the warmongering Muslims gain influence; the good Christians can't resolve the racial tension at home; the good Christians can bomb the shit out of some brown people though. If war (supported heavily by the nation's religous right) has done any one thing for America, it's dissolve the racial tension momentarily. I'm not much of a patriot though, so I don't really think all the war and starvation was worth keeping a country together.

All of this tells us that religion has a definite impact on societies throughout the world. Various churches and temple have stood for hundreds of years and, without considering some of their vast libraries, in their architecture alone serve as houses of knowledge and history. The five most popular religions; Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, and Buddhism have been around for thousands of years, helped establish cultural norms, and have even become associated with the identity of countries and cultures across the globe. Not only do religious ideas affect society, they are affected by culture and societal changes. For example more women are assuming leadership positions in religious organizations and gender-neutral language is being used in newly printed religious books.

Before patriarch society existed matriarch society; early civilization was surprisingly enlightened when it came to compassion for the 'fairer sex'.

With travel becoming increasingly faster, cheaper, and easier, we see people traveling and immigrating to countries other than the one in which they were born bringing their beliefs with them and experiencing beliefs and cultures which may be new to them. ‘An increasing number of people are seeking spiritual development outside established religious organizations’ and ‘although most people in the U.S. claim to be at least somewhat religious, only about 1/3 actually report attending religious services regularly.’ With these things taken into consideration, I wonder what the future holds for religion.

I wonder too.

Looking forward to your response.

Seriously
2006-12-08, 22:23
I enjoyed reading your response, thank you. A friend of mine just got into town so it may be awhile before a can compose a response.

Seriously
2006-12-11, 06:15
b]It promotes social cohesion among willing participants in a particular avenue of faith. When religion steps into the bounds of moral doctrine, it acts as a boundary between people; when morals are rooted to a belief one is raised with, or has come to believe as absolute truth, it creates unnecessary tension.

For religion to be a true tool of social cohesion, the idea of 'absolute truth' on any issue other than faith itself has to be eliminated (for even the atheist and agnostic have faith in something). With the notion in most religions that such particular belief is the only correct one, they can only unite the masses so much; and in a particularly cruel way: there is no room for individuality.[/b]

Some of the things you have said have been written from the opposite perspective from which I wrote them. While I agree with what you're saying I am finding it difficult to come up with a response that doesn't repeat what I have written or simply says, 'yeah I think so too'. :-)

I think you'll get the jist.

this faith in humanity is not often spread any further than those who claim the same belief in God, when the underlying conditions that led the individual to their belief exists in everyone.

I think one of the main reasons this occurs with religions is because people are afraid to admit just how awful they feel sometimes, and just how empty their successes in life are: we all are ignorant of what awaits us, yet are all mystified by it...why can't we recognize the true commonality between all humans, our fear and wonder of the certain death that awaits us? Why do we ignore the true commonality, the very essence of humanity, in favor of a fantasy? We all construct a belief to keep ourselves alive. Why not choose that as the bond, rather than the individual beliefs?

Yes, get the jist of it. Thankfully though, while we are seeing an increase of religious fundamentalism in the U.S., we are also begining to see religious coalitions forming. Coalitions where leaders of local religious institutions are coming together in a quest for better understanding of others' religious perspectives. They are finding out what they have in common and are working towards a goal of greater acceptance for other beliefs based upon these commonalities.

It is the very possibility of hearing someone else provide a lecture on individual-based morals that drives many people away from religion; taking away from its cohesive ability, rather than contributing. Open discussion of moral dilemna is productive to a society; but being lectured as though you are all to abide unfailingly to a particular human's morals begs the question to many: 'Why the fuck should I listen to this guy over my self?'

I totally agree with you. In fact some of the people I interviewed mentioned this and stated it, and the fact that they thought the church members they knew were hypocrites, as the reason they are no longer members of those religions. This and the fact that their personal morals conflicted with some of the churches morals. This is another example of some flaws of religion.

The benefits of religion in history are easy to see, but so are the flaws. The exclusivity of the current mainstream religions does damage to everyone but the converts.



On a large scale, war and other conflicts may actually be necessary to keep peace on the smaller scale. It seems that any time a country is nearing a major ideological split, the only force that can save the nation is an outside enemy. Religion's exclusivity may contribute to this, in a 1984 sort of way. If our focus is on our 'enemy', it's not on our problems;

this is true of any nation, but America in particular, the spectrum of thoughts and beliefs has grown so wide, that without a war machine, a civil war would be inevitable.

I don't agree with you on this one(unless we are talking about fundamentalists). I think the wide spectrum of thoughts and beliefs will lead to a diffusion of these thoughts and beliefs and even practices into differing religions, where they become gradually and in small ways more and more alike. Religions are adaptable and while they will still maintain their core absolute faith they will eventually evolve just like a living organism or die off.

The racial tension of the mid-1900s wasn't resolved through new legislation or open-mindedness; this country is as racist as ever. But from the 60s and on, we've continuously had a war to fight; something to keep our eyes away. If war (supported heavily by the nation's religous right) has done any one thing for America, it's dissolve the racial tension momentarily.

I agree that it isn't resolved but, it has been somewhat improved. i.e. no more public segregation between the races. And if racial tension is even momentarily dissolved, it provides some room for the growth of acceptance. Also immigration is somewhat tending to transfer the discrimination from one race to another/others thereby allowing some races more opportunities for equal treatment and acceptance.

Before patriarch society existed matriarch society; early civilization was surprisingly enlightened when it came to compassion for the 'fairer sex'.

True, and not just compassion but sense of equality. Then again, I suppose it could have been the opposite of the dark ages and women dominated men.

JesuitArtiste
2006-12-12, 12:31
Both good reads there....

... I would add something more, but I have no idea what I could add, so I'll just lurk around with my thumbs up.