I swear to god these teenage "atheist anarchists" are going to make my mind explode. You're NOT rebellious because you don't believe in God, it doesn't make you smarter, it doesn't mean you've transcended above the realm of thought of everyone else. Every other thread in here is "Prove God exists!".

You have the right to your own opinion.

You do not have the right to force others to believe it.

stfukthx

I hope you're not stereotyping all anarchists and atheists. I'm an Anarcho-Syndicalist because I'm a humanist and, having read up about it, believe AS to be the healthiest environment for humanity to thrive in. I'm an atheist because I've thought about it a lot and it makes sense to me.

I agree with you that all of these threads are annoying, however, because My God is getting incredibly repetitive.

Now that I read through that, it sounds like I'm generalizing. But I would be labeled Atheist myself.

quote:Originally posted by Quebb:

I swear to god these teenage "atheist anarchists" are going to make my mind explode. You're NOT rebellious because you don't believe in God, it doesn't make you smarter, it doesn't mean you've transcended above the realm of thought of everyone else. Every other thread in here is "Prove God exists!".

You have the right to your own opinion.

You do not have the right to force others to believe it.

stfukthx

I agree. Most the atheist here are worse then the actual religious people they try to mock.

They give atheist, and those with similar beliefs a bad name. If you're an atheist, you do not need someone to prove to you that God exist.

Get over your adolescent need to rebel.

Did anyone see the, My Atheism is slipping need help thread?

It's fucking pathetic.

I hate that my beliefs can be associated with such kidiots.

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I saw that "My Atheism is slipping thread" and thought about making a clone that said "My Ego is shrinking"

quote:Originally posted by Quebb:

I saw that "My Atheism is slipping thread" and thought about making a clone that said "My Ego is shrinking"

Ahahaha, me like. http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

I agree, and the fact that they come to the religion board to bash religion is even more retarded.

If you don't like it then GTFO

There's about 9 threads right now with the topic "God can't exist" "Flaw with God idea" etc etc. I wish it was against the rules so mods could do something.

I think we should try to make those of religion change their minds, religion in the world today is unhealthy and the more people realise this the better.

quote:Originally posted by among_the_living:

I think we should try to make those of religion change their minds, religion in the world today is unhealthy and the more people realise this the better.

I'd agree if you said 'theology and evangelism' rather than religion...but those who believe in God aren't a problem. Nor are those who believe in theologies yet have no evangelistic motives.

God isn't an ignorant belief - the theology of an intangible being is; I cannot support the forceful spreading of ignorance.

I have an undying faith in God...but I don't try to spread it, because I don't know if a god that I cannot know on any level, nor communicate with on any of the 5 sensual levels wants me to (if it even has wants).

Agreed.

Mind you I was more or less the same not so long ago, so I'll tolerate it and hope....

atheist are smarter. simple as that. scientific method and freethough FTW

quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

atheist are smarter. simple as that. scientific method and freethough FTW

I suppose that is why you couldn't even put your thought together?

Atheists are smarter? Really? What of the great minds that have fought for the scientific method and free thought throughout history in the name of their divine inspiration?

I don't know if you can grasp this or not - but the ideas one holds on a completely undiscussable and undefinable entity as a divine being reflect no part of their intellect to any degree. You may say that a divine being can be discussed, and defined, but no! It cannot be discussed. You are debating your own idea based ideas against other idea based ideas, when both are nothing but weak little devices within the mind. Ideas show, with no accuracy, what the reality they attempt to express is.

Scientific method is nothing but a modus operandi for the reaching of a conclusion from a premise; it does not gaurantee the premises nor the conclusions arrived to be right - especially considering the subjective nature of sensual observation. Of course though, you have your other tool called Occam's Razor to conveniently dismiss the notion that you betray yourself with the information your senses take in! (I would argue contrarily, that your lack of wit is proof that you are deluded in your claim of intellectual superiority based upon your perception of reality...you cannot even formulate coherent thought)

You claim a conclusion a mark of superior wit while blinding yourself to the truth that you are as pathetically lost as the theist is in their emotional method of slave mentality - which is still the basis for your 'scientific method and free thought'; merely emotion-slave mentality with the incorporation of linear progression.

If you want truly free thought, you have to quit holding on to the ideas that make you 'superior' for the sake of the comforted ego. You've no strength of mind nor spirit if you cannot bring yourself to 'lower your intellectual standing' for the sake of gaining insight. Atheism is not a smarter choice...just another choice.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

What of the great minds that have fought for the scientific method and free thought throughout history in the name of their divine inspiration?

hmmm EVERY Scientist believes in the scientific method, its what SCIENCE is based on.

"Scientific method is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena and acquiring new knowledge, as well as for correcting and integrating previous knowledge. It is based on gathering observable, empirical, measurable evidence, subject to the principles of reasoning[1]."

And every major scientist ive taken the time to look up and find out there beliefs based there beliefs on Freethought.

"Freethought is a philosophical doctrine that holds that beliefs should be formed on the basis of science and logical principles and not be comprised by authority, tradition, or any other dogmatic belief system that restricts logical reasoning. The cognitive application of freethought is known as freethinking, and practitioners of freethought are known as freethinkers."

Just how Dawkins has trouble grasping how a scientist can throw out the way they think when it comes to religious beliefs, i cant grasp it either. The two totally contradict eachother.

For everything else you said.

You shur managed to bable on after i wrote a couple words down. None of it had anything to do with my statement. I really ment nothing by saying people who dont follow a religion are smarter. Even know when i think about it, it does seem that in the big picture people who follow scientific method and freethough ARE smarter. Because they are constantly obsorbing knowledge, Perfecting fact. While the billions of religous people are locked in tradition.

Obviosly thats not the same for everybody, but it is for the vast majority

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:



Scientific method is nothing but a modus operandi for the reaching of a conclusion from a premise; it does not gaurantee the premises nor the conclusions arrived to be right - especially considering the subjective nature of sensual observation.

so with that logic

2+2=4 is WRONG?

here ill simplify it even more for you

1+1=2 is WRONG?

Be more of an oblivious ass...

I said that scientific method does not gaurantee premises or conclusions to be correct...I did not say that it never reaches correct conclusions.

For being such a practitioner of logical free thinking, that sure was an asanine response.

And the ONLY thing a scientist has to doubt in their system of 'free thought' in order to believe in a god is Occam's Razor.

And please, do not mistake this for me defending religion as superior to science: I'm merely defending the truth of the individual against your drivel that any one particular belief determines any portion of how smart you are.

quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

so with that logic

2+2=4 is WRONG?

here ill simplify it even more for you

1+1=2 is WRONG?

It is wrong and right.

quote:Originally posted by Quebb:

I swear to god these teenage "atheist anarchists" are going to make my mind explode. You're NOT rebellious because you don't believe in God, it doesn't make you smarter, it doesn't mean you've transcended above the realm of thought of everyone else. Every other thread in here is "Prove God exists!".

You have the right to your own opinion.

You do not have the right to force others to believe it.

stfukthx

The thing is, "Born Again" anyones suck. Suddenly the world makes oh-so-much sense to them now so they want to hammer that epithany into everyone's skulls. Most of it is just the insecurity they are feeling for not fully understanding the new outlook they now claim. It is way easier to say "If you aren't a(n) Athiest, Muslim, Baptist, ect then you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and here is the Bible passage, Koran verse, biology text book to prove it!"

Best thing about this, is than in about a year or so they will give it up and become a fat Wiccan effeminant cup bearer or something and scream their shit all over that black/red themed message board.

bump

quote:Originally posted by Raw_Power:

I agree with you that all of these threads are annoying, however, because My God is getting incredibly repetitive.

What do you mean "is getting"?

It's been nothing but "Prove god exists" threads for years. And any other thread that aims to dicuss something differen always end up with an argument to and for gods existence.

How about threads about the nature of wisdom or love? Or about the relationships between religeons, or how so called paranormal might relate to what god may or not be. How science and spirituality can coexist (Is quantum physics bridging the 2?) etc.

There is so many interesting discussions that can be had.

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I believe in god (tho my faith is waning). I dont sit here and ram my beliefs down the atheists throats. I know all of you arent kidiots, but I'd like to say something to the kidiot atheists...

STFU! YOU ARE NOT COOL YOU MORONIC PRICKS!!

quote:Originally posted by vazilizaitsev89:

I believe in god (tho my faith is waning). I dont sit here and ram my beliefs down the atheists throats. I know all of you arent kidiots, but I'd like to say something to the kidiot atheists...

STFU! YOU ARE NOT COOL YOU MORONIC PRICKS!!

They're our army, our little Dawkin's chihuahuas. If anti-religious ridicule by kids is what it takes to get religion out of our youth, then it gets my approval.

GO CHIHUAHUAS! U R COOL http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

quote:Originally posted by among_the_living:

I think we should try to make those of religion change their minds, religion in the world today is unhealthy and the more people realise this the better.

Yeah, you said it--darn that pesky old free will to heck, anyway.

The new Grand Inquisitor--the old one got promoted to pope, did you hear?--would be proud of you.



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