so much killing over somthing that might not even exist. man made religion and religion will end man

Then don't hate religion.

Hate Man.

k

Generic thread, huh?

Religion is just an excuse. Even if there were no religions all the wars would have still gone the same way. All the wars are about power, money and territorial control. Here are things that are as useful as religion when rallying for wars.

-Nationalism OUR COUNTRY IS THE BEST, THEREFORE YOUR COUNTRY SUCKS. LETS END YOUR COUNTRY

-Hate racial and cultural (religion falls under cultural)

-Fear, If we don't attack them they will attack us.

-Political differences, we must bring democracy/communism/corporotacracy to them

these are just a few of the top of my head

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

Religion is just an excuse. Even if there were no religions all the wars would have still gone the same way. All the wars are about power, money and territorial control. Here are things that are as useful as religion when rallying for wars.

-Nationalism OUR COUNTRY IS THE BEST, THEREFORE YOUR COUNTRY SUCKS. LETS END YOUR COUNTRY

-Hate racial and cultural (religion falls under cultural)

-Fear, If we don't attack them they will attack us.

-Political differences, we must bring democracy/communism/corporotacracy to them

these are just a few of the top of my head

Taken to its logical conclusion, all wars(strife, violence, arguments, etc) are a result of the ego.

Religion is a result of the ego; all religions are different facets of a central, true idea that has been perverted.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Taken to its logical conclusion, all wars(strife, violence, arguments, etc) are a result of the ego.

Religion is a result of the ego; all religions are different facets of a central, true idea that has been perverted.

Not just the ego, it's also a result of illogical hate and the desire to fill your belly with something more delicious than what you already have

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

Not just the ego, it's also a result of illogical hate and the desire to fill your belly with something more delicious than what you already have

...That's a result of the ego. "Mine! Mine!" Greed, pride, envy, etc, all products of the ego.

The desire to raise your standards of living at the expense of others comes from pleasing the flesh, not from the ego.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

...That's a result of the ego. "Mine! Mine!" Greed, pride, envy, etc, all products of the ego.

Sounds like the Id to me.

Reminds me of a quote Stephen King uses in Cell:

"The id will not stand for a delay in gratification. It always feels the tension of the unfulfilled urge."

Sigmund Freud

also:

"Human aggression is instinctual. Humans have not evolved any ritualized aggression-inhibiting mechanisms to ensure the survival of the species. For this reason man is considered a very dangerous animal."

Konrad Lorenz

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

The desire to raise your standards of living at the expense of others comes from pleasing the flesh, not from the ego.

You really are not getting what I'm saying...

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

...That's a result of the ego. "Mine! Mine!" Greed, pride, envy, etc, all products of the ego.

As I understand it, ego is the feeling of pride of oneself and the feeling of ones own identity. Wanting the PS3 so badly that I rob someone in line does not exactly appeal to my pride, nor does it appeal to my sense of identity

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

As I understand it, ego is the feeling of pride of oneself and the feeling of ones own identity. Wanting the PS3 so badly that I rob someone in line does not exactly appeal to my pride, nor does it appeal to my sense of identity

Yes, yes it does. You steal a PS3 so that it will be "yours". Is it ever really yours? No. Any sense of ownership of anything is derived from the ego, the selfish idea that you are the only thing that matters, or at the least that you are the most important person.

Theft is a derivative of jealousy, which is a derivative of pride. The ego is a sense of "me". Anything that deals with "me" or "my" is related to the ego.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Yes, yes it does. You steal a PS3 so that it will be "yours". Is it ever really yours? No. Any sense of ownership of anything is derived from the ego, the selfish idea that you are the only thing that matters, or at the least that you are the most important person.

Theft is a derivative of jealousy, which is a derivative of pride. The ego is a sense of "me". Anything that deals with "me" or "my" is related to the ego.

Yes, the sense of ownership is derived from ego. Jealosy is also derived from the ego. But my main motivation for stealing the PS3 was not because I want to own it, and not because i somehow deserve it more than anyone else. My motivation was that I want to play it, entertain myself, quench the cravings of the mind and flesh.

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

Yes, the sense of ownership is derived from ego. Jealosy is also derived from the ego. But my main motivation for stealing the PS3 was not because I want to own it, and not because i somehow deserve it more than anyone else. My motivation was that I want to play it, entertain myself, quench the cravings of the mind and flesh.

No, your motivation for STEALING it was so that it would be YOURS. You PLAY it to satisfy emotional needs. You don't NEED to "own" a PS3 to play it, now do you?

Besides, the mind and the flesh are part of the ego.

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

Yes, the sense of ownership is derived from ego. Jealosy is also derived from the ego. But my main motivation for stealing the PS3 was not because I want to own it, and not because i somehow deserve it more than anyone else. My motivation was that I want to play it, entertain myself, quench the cravings of the mind and flesh.



Exactly

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No, your motivation for STEALING it was so that it would be YOURS. You PLAY it to satisfy emotional needs. You don't NEED to "own" a PS3 to play it, now do you?

Besides, the mind and the flesh are part of the ego.



The ego involves your own status in relation to everyone else, perception.

The need to have the PS3 was never stated to be caused by a need to have it labelled as "mine." You want it to play it. To satisfy.

It would only relate to the ego if you said "Hey, I stole this, dude!" or "Hey, I have a PS3, guys!"

quote:Originally posted by Merlinman2005:



The ego involves your own status in relation to everyone else, perception.

The need to have the PS3 was never stated to be caused by a need to have it labelled as "mine." You want it to play it. To satisfy.

It would only relate to the ego if you said "Hey, I stole this, dude!" or "Hey, I have a PS3, guys!"

No, you're missing the point. If you steal something, you're trying to gain ownership of it. Ownership is the idea that something is "yours". You don't have to own something to use it, thusly the sole reason for stealing something is not derived from the pleasure the object gives you.

You could just as easily go over to your friends house and play on his PS3 as go steal one.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No, your motivation for STEALING it was so that it would be YOURS. You PLAY it to satisfy emotional needs. You don't NEED to "own" a PS3 to play it, now do you?

Besides, the mind and the flesh are part of the ego.

I steal it so that I have the ability to use it whenever I want. If someone would let me borrow theirs or rent theirs I wouldn't steal it. It's not about ownership or jealosy

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:



You could just as easily go over to your friends house and play on his PS3 as go steal one.



You don't see that that would result in a problem of accessability.

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

I steal it so that I have the ability to use it whenever I want. If someone would let me borrow theirs or rent theirs I wouldn't steal it. It's not about ownership or jealosy

To have the ability to use it whenever you want you have to OWN it.

God, are you people fucking retarded or something? How do you not get this?

It IS about jealousy, "Oooh, that guy has a PS3 and I want it! I'll take it!"

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No, you're missing the point. If you steal something, you're trying to gain ownership of it. Ownership is the idea that something is "yours". You don't have to own something to use it, thusly the sole reason for stealing something is not derived from the pleasure the object gives you.

You could just as easily go over to your friends house and play on his PS3 as go steal one.

If I steal something, I am trying to gain *USE* of it rather than ownership. Let's say the PS3 was broken, I wouldn't steal it, because even though the victim won't have it any more, and I will 'own it', I wouldn't be able to use it. If someone lets me borrow theirs, I do not own it, but I won't steal another one, because I gained use of one.

all wars are not really about just money and power, they do include religion a lot. name one war that did'nt use religion as a weapen. my god's better than yours, your way is wrong, this is holy this is not, if religion was not born everything you see around you would be different. people are moved by religion to do things for their god or belief which makes them invent which makes us what we are today. and we can't stop it, because it is our nature, we will continue to fight because we have feelings, we have religion, we will fight and kill our-selfs from our own weapons that we sawt to protect us and put fear into other countries.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

To have the ability to use it whenever you want you have to OWN it.

God, are you people fucking retarded or something? How do you not get this?

It IS about jealousy, "Oooh, that guy has a PS3 and I want it! I'll take it!"

Jealousy is an emotion experienced by one who perceives that another person is giving something that s/he wants (typically attention, love, or affection) to a third party. For example, a child will likely become jealous when her parent gives sweets to a sibling but not to her. While the child's jealousy might be assuaged if she also received candy from the parent, such is typically not the case for a jealous lover, who wants the beloved to give some kinds of attention exclusively to him. -google dictionary.

I don't care about whether someone else has it, I only care about whether I have it or not. If NO ONE BUT ME EXISTED ON THIS PLANET, i have no one to be jealous of, but i'd still want a PS3

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

If I steal something, I am trying to gain *USE* of it rather than ownership. Let's say the PS3 was broken, I wouldn't steal it, because even though the victim won't have it any more, and I will 'own it', I wouldn't be able to use it. If someone lets me borrow theirs, I do not own it, but I won't steal another one, because I gained use of one.

No, you fucking moron, if you steal something you want to HAVE it. You want to OWN it. You want to POSSESS it. You could just as easily steal a PS3 and, *gasp, never use it. The action of stealing is derived from the ego, as I have shown over and over.

It doesn't matter if it's broken, that just means you're not jealous of him anymore. You don't want a broken one, you want one that works.

If someone lets you borrow it, then he will eventually take it back and you're back at square one, unless he gives it to you indefinitely at which point you basically have ownership of it.

quote:name one war that did'nt use religion as a weapen



Rofl. All spelling mistakes aside, you're still a complete moron. How about WWI? WWII? The Civil War? The Spanish-American War? The Korean War? Vietnam? Gulf War I and II?

quote:Jealousy is an emotion experienced by one who perceives that another person is giving something that s/he wants (typically attention, love, or affection) to a third party. For example, a child will likely become jealous when her parent gives sweets to a sibling but not to her. While the child's jealousy might be assuaged if she also received candy from the parent, such is typically not the case for a jealous lover, who wants the beloved to give some kinds of attention exclusively to him. -google dictionary.



I know very well what jealousy is, this paragraph is entirely irrelevant.

quote:I don't care about whether someone else has it, I only care about whether I have it or not. If NO ONE BUT ME EXISTED ON THIS PLANET, i have no one to be jealous of, but i'd still want a PS3



Yes, but you wouldn't have anyone TO FUCKING STEAL FROM. That's the fucking point, you're STEALING from SOMEONE ELSE because you want THEIR shit.

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quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No, you fucking moron, if you steal something you want to HAVE it. You want to OWN it. You want to POSSESS it. You could just as easily steal a PS3 and, *gasp, never use it. The action of stealing is derived from the ego, as I have shown over and over.

It doesn't matter if it's broken, that just means you're not jealous of him anymore. You don't want a broken one, you want one that works.

If someone lets you borrow it, then he will eventually take it back and you're back at square one, unless he gives it to you indefinitely at which point you basically have ownership of it.

You haven't proven anything.

You wanna steal the PS3 to play it, not to say you have one. That's the whole thing.

Ownership, jealousy, all that stuff doesn't matter.

The id is the want want want. And it wants to get what it wants.

The ego only comes into play when other people realize you have the PS3, something that we don't care about.

We just wanna play.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No, you fucking moron, if you steal something you want to HAVE it. You want to OWN it. You want to POSSESS it. You could just as easily steal a PS3 and, *gasp, never use it. The action of stealing is derived from the ego, as I have shown over and over.

It doesn't matter if it's broken, that just means you're not jealous of him anymore. You don't want a broken one, you want one that works.

If someone lets you borrow it, then he will eventually take it back and you're back at square one, unless he gives it to you indefinitely at which point you basically have ownership of it.

You don't know why I'd steal it. The only reason I'd steal it is to play it. Notice how I used myself as an example, while you also used ME as an example. I am more aware of my motivations and feelings than you are. I guarantee it, I would only steal a PS3 to USE IT. I would not steal a PS3 if I didn't have a TV other than to sell it, but that's just getting money to fulfill my flesh through other means, be it books, food or drugs.

Edit: "It doesn't matter if it's broken, that just means you're not jealous of him anymore. You don't want a broken one, you want one that works." If it's broken I wouldn't steal it, didn't I say or clearly imply that in my previous post? If I didn't, let me re-state it: I WOULDNT STEAL A BROKEN PS3

[This message has been edited by Lamabot (edited 01-09-2007).]

quote:You haven't proven anything.

You wanna steal the PS3 to play it, not to say you have one. That's the whole thing.

Ownership, jealousy, all that stuff doesn't matter.

The id is the want want want. And it wants to get what it wants.

The ego only comes into play when other people realize you have the PS3, something that we don't care about.

We just wanna play.



No you moron, you don't fucking get it. The ego, in the sense that I'm talking about, is the sense of "me" and "mine", of possession and ownership, of selfishness. Pride is NOT the only facet of an ego, other people don't have to know about it for it to be a part of your ego.

You want to steal the PS3 to HAVE IT so you can play it. You play it because it satisfy psychological needs, but you WANT it in your POSSESSION because your ego drives you to.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No you moron, you don't fucking get it. The ego, in the sense that I'm talking about, is the sense of "me" and "mine", of possession and ownership, of selfishness. Pride is NOT the only facet of an ego, other people don't have to know about it for it to be a part of your ego.

You want to steal the PS3 to HAVE IT so you can play it. You play it because it satisfy psychological needs, but you WANT it in your POSSESSION because your ego drives you to.

I don't understand your frustration and personal attacks, they only discredit you and make you look immature. The only reason I would steal a PS3 is to play it. The only reason i'd steal a bag of chips is so i can eat it. The only reason i'd steal some shoes is so I can wear them. It is about practical purposes and my standards of living, not possession or jealousy.

Edit: Would you take the risks of stealing a bank account with billions in frozen assets? You will possess the billions, you will not be jealous of the previous owner, except you won't be able to use them, ever. I certainly wouldn't steal something useless.

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quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No you moron, you don't fucking get it. The ego, in the sense that I'm talking about, is the sense of "me" and "mine", of possession and ownership, of selfishness. Pride is NOT the only facet of an ego, other people don't have to know about it for it to be a part of your ego.

You want to steal the PS3 to HAVE IT so you can play it. You play it because it satisfy psychological needs, but you WANT it in your POSSESSION because your ego drives you to.

1. Keep calling us names. It doesn't help you out at all.

2. YOU WANT IT (possession doesn't matter) TO PLAY IT. LIKE YOU SAID, TO SATISFY NEEDS. THAT'S THE ID, NOT THE EGO. THE WHOLE, "YOU WANT POSSESSION" PART IS JUST YOU HANGING ON TO SOMETHING WE'VE TOLD YOU TO STOP HANGING ON TO. LET ME REITERATE.

THAT'S THE ID. NOT THE EGO.

Get it?

Got it?

Too bad.

quote:I don't understand your frustration and personal attacks, they only discredit you and make you look immature.



That's because you can't understand the fucking point I'm making.

quote:The only reason I would steal a PS3 is to play it.



No, the only reason you steal a PS3 is so you can HAVE IT. One of the reasons you might have it is so you can PLAY it. You don't HAVE to OWN a PS3 to play it, thusly the only reason you'd steal a PS3 is NOT to play it.

If you can NOT understand this, then please just tell me now so I can stop trying to get your morons to comprehend a basic idea.

Blah...last time I ever fucking argue with noobs.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

No, the only reason you steal a PS3 is so you can HAVE IT. One of the reasons you might have it is so you can PLAY it. You don't HAVE to OWN a PS3 to play it, thusly the only reason you'd steal a PS3 is NOT to play it.

If you can NOT understand this, then please just tell me now so I can stop trying to get your morons to comprehend a basic idea.

Blah...last time I ever fucking argue with noobs.

I understand your point, and I'm arguing that it's flawed. You are using ad hominem to reinforce your point, which makes me think that you think your point is flawed too. Remember frustration comes from a person battling himself, nothing more.

If I had the means of using a PS3 without owning it, I'd be not inclined to steal it in the first place. Would you steal an icecream bar if you were diabetic?

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-not a noob

-you're the idiot

-stop saying why we'd do something when we brought up the scenario first, along with the drive behind it

-not a basic idea, no matter how much you think it is

-back to the beginning

+"Wanting the PS3 so badly that I rob someone in line does not exactly appeal to my pride, nor does it appeal to my sense of identity"

-you were told the motivation, and ignored it

see you guys are arguing over things that are useless and pointless, where does a ps3 get you no where. jealousy has some part to this, but practically everything i see is based on some guy back in history or not that far from now thinking that he/she saw a vision and so they start something, which starts riots on whos right which starts hanging and killing and war...soon we all just die on no cooperation and no communication, and we'll all die soon. people are so fucking dumb that today i refused to dissect a fish, not because i was discusted but because it had twice as much meat on it than a walleye or northern jesus CHRIST!!!! there were 50 of THEM

The trick is making a distinction between the actual person who saw a vision, or a person who claims to have seen a vision or using another person's vision for his means. None of the actual leaders (at least contemporary) believe the actual religious reasons for wars. It's all about politics

I don't quite understand why you refused to dissect a fish. You seem to be a bit too passionate, and I couldn't comprehend what you're saying. Can you rephrase it a bit more...should I say...calmly?

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im sorry...what im saying is that people are naturally retards. you know why? because of this you all see around you, sure they might no how to read and write there name, but they don't have any respect of what made them. food been poured into the ocean along with trash and nuclear waste. people have been focusing on technology for so long they don't realize what there doing to the earth. people say its global warming, ride a damn bike. people say your trashing the ocean and other places, don't process so much shit, especially if its useless and helps you do less labor than what your built for. people even say the earth is getting closer to the sun. people say that the ocean is retaking the land, stop building shit on water such as vast piles of dirt spelling your name, such as those damn palms in paskastan or some damn place, i saw that some where....ah geographic magazine. and did you know that ireland has hardly any trees left? guess who cut them down. trees give us oxygen and life you should respect that, hardly anyone is...i could on...but maybe you can find some sense in my on going rambling

I fail to see how that merits refusal to dissect a fish.

food, respect of life, use a chart, catch one...tell its features put it back respect the life that it helped create what you are

lol kid thinks he's got the answers to the world's problems.

Like I said before, hate Man.

I do agree with you on one thing, though... people are fuckin' stupid. Which is one of the reasons I do hate Man (with a huge emphasis on stupid people).

This thread is a holocaust of downs syndrome.

i know i have the worlds problems cause there so god fucking EASY all you got to is fucking get some sense. what the fuck are you going to do with 10 billion dallors, soon you'll run out of stuff to do be bored as hell with what the world gave you. just be happy for what your given and in return don't give it back in nuclear waste. people don't even have common sense anymore. OH hey guys lets produce and make things that will led us to our death, inhale toxic burning plastic and fuck a fake vagina, cause life does'nt get better than this....as you see everything slowly but steadily tilt down hill toward doom, were going to die before the sun does

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

This thread is a holocaust of downs syndrome.

Holocaust is destruction, especially by fire. This is the incineration of people with Down's syndrome? Hardly makes sense.

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

Holocaust is destruction, especially by fire. This is the incineration of people with Down's syndrome? Hardly makes sense.

Obviously you can't appreciate creative language...

My statement meant basically that this thread has been destroyed by people with down's syndrome, instead of fire.

I'm hoping that you're just pretending to be dumb to be an asshole...

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

food, respect of life, use a chart, catch one...tell its features put it back respect the life that it helped create what you are

The purpose of the dissection is to show hands on the features that you no doubt already learned in charts. It is much different to see it on a piece of paper rather than actually dissect and see the organs. A lot of people cannot see the connection between things they learn at school and actual life until they've experienced it in a real setting.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Obviously you can't appreciate creative language...

My statement meant basically that this thread has been destroyed by people with down's syndrome, instead of fire.

I'm hoping that you're just pretending to be dumb to be an asshole...

No, I can't appreciate mutilation of language. You said holocaust of down's syndrome. What you tried to say was holocaust by down's syndrome.

when ever i talk to people about this, all i hear in return is cookies and cream (that means your fucking dumb as a god damn rock) (possibly dumber)

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

when ever i talk to people about this, all i hear in return is cookies and cream (that means your fucking dumb as a god damn rock) (possibly dumber)

People are not willing to confront their own mortality, flaws and demise. This is why so many homosexuals become homophobes, they cannot confront something they perceive as a flaw.

what the hell then, why do you want to show kids whats inside a fish, all of them forget it anyway. i know i did...while i watched i didn't learn a thing, all i could see was, jesus fucking christ theres enough meat her for me to eat for friggen 5 months

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

when ever i talk to people about this, all i hear in return is cookies and cream (that means your fucking dumb as a god damn rock) (possibly dumber)

Do you mean that they tell you this or are you telling us?

also

if they're telling you this (as I think it should be) it's probably because of the way you go about things. You're a little whiny. And I said "a little" because I'm a nice guy.

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

what the hell then, why do you want to show kids whats inside a fish, all of them forget it anyway. i know i did...while i watched i didn't learn a thing, all i could see was, jesus fucking christ theres enough meat her for me to eat for friggen 5 months



Because NOT all of them forget. You wanted respect for life, how about knowledge of how we are sustained? How life goes on? It helps in pursuit of knowledge, knowledge of something critical to all of us... life.

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

No, I can't appreciate mutilation of language. You said holocaust of down's syndrome. What you tried to say was holocaust by down's syndrome.

What the fuck? It's the same god damn thing. A holocaust of fire is a holocaust BY fire as well.

am i whiney to say that were slowly dying and if we don't do anything it'll be a late?...life? i don't think george bush is about life or whoever is in irag, they want oil....a black smudge that is parts of grinded animals thats all it is...and we think that. is life. along with gold and diamonds. but hardly anyone looks around which created US. oil did'nt create us

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

What the fuck? It's the same god damn thing. A holocaust of fire is a holocaust BY fire as well.

if I said flooding of houses, would you assume something got flooded by houses? Also holocaust of fire is a redundancy.

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

am i whiney to say that were slowly dying and if we don't do anything it'll be a late?...life? i don't think george bush is about life or whoever is in irag, they want oil....a black smudge that is parts of grinded animals thats all it is...and we think that. is life. along with gold and diamonds. but hardly anyone looks around which created US. oil did'nt create us

Honestly what makes you whiny is the fact that you are just complain about it. What you need to do is act, do something, anything. Hell people might even follow you and support you, you can make a difference if you try, you can't if you don't.

all people want is more..more and more and more more more more, but soon there will be no more left, there will be nothing left here but death cause we'll kill each other for the food and water that is almost gone that we over used from the planet. i think it is said that were taking so much the planet is only regrowing 1cm each year, and were taking by the foot

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

am i whiney to say that were slowly dying and if we don't do anything it'll be a late?...life? i don't think george bush is about life or whoever is in irag, they want oil....a black smudge that is parts of grinded animals thats all it is...and we think that. is life. along with gold and diamonds. but hardly anyone looks around which created US. oil did'nt create us



No, you're whiny because of the way you're saying it. Too many issues, all wrapped up into a few posts.



(And personally, sometimes when I see sentences typed w/out capitalizations, and with numerous errors, my mind's eye sees a young teen typing it all out. I sometimes don't use caps, granted, but just lettin' you know what I think when I read stuff. Not an attack, just informing)

i can't do anything, because you know why? im 16 no one listens to a 16 year old not even religious faith people, they shrug kids off like we don't know anything but we know more than them because we grow up in it

this has nothing to do with puncuation and grammar

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

i can't do anything, because you know why? im 16 no one listens to a 16 year old not even religious faith people, they shrug kids off like we don't know anything but we know more than them because we grow up in it

If you don't even try, but keep complaining of course you will come off as whiny. Like I always say, love it, leave it, or do something about it.

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

i can't do anything, because you know why? im 16 no one listens to a 16 year old not even religious faith people, they shrug kids off like we don't know anything but we know more than them because we grow up in it

Just because you know how it feels to grow up in a certain situation doesn't mean you have a better idea of how to stop it or make it better. You only know what you want. Yeah, you're growing up during it, but those older than you are still living during it.

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

this has nothing to do with puncuation and grammar



Like I said, it was a personal thing for me. So yeah, it does have something to do with it, to me.

But if you actually typed your shit out correctly, it would improve the image you present, be it by a little bit.

sure that might be that people older than me live in it longer, but most people dont take the time to see it, they just do what ever everyone else is doing, because it is easier, who cares if the world is going to shit im not gonna be alive to see it! you never know...what if your son or daughter dies in it. soon as you get older with kids you will care, or even now you care but you want other peoples opinion first, but no one steps out

its funny how people want to see correct grammer in the sentace of how the earth will end with you in it...funny

- I don't see the humor.

- I do care.

- I don't care about your opinion.

- I'm not having kids.

- I am doing something about it. I will get the absolute truth out using various mediums. It will take a while for some, and no time for others.

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

its funny how people want to see correct grammer in the sentace of how the earth will end with you in it...funny

Because he can't see or hear you he has to rely on your spelling to assess your personality. You can't expect anyone who pronounces "Nukalar" to say anything smart. Likewise you can't expect ne1 whoo tipes lik diz 2 sei intaligent fings

people say live by this. what is right for me? don't think about yourself you selfish bastard, you keep thinking like that you'll die for sertain. i look at places and i just see discust everywhere, waste everywhere, everything going nuclear, people dying left and right, people smoking tobacco, to much this and that, im not whining im try to tell people that i told them a thousand times before, you wanna save your life, your blood line, this world and everything on it, than walk work, to far away? ride a bike, move closer to town, pick up your garbage, plant some damn trees, don't build bombs and guns

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

people say live by this. what is right for me? don't think about yourself you selfish bastard, you keep thinking like that you'll die for sertain. i look at places and i just see discust everywhere, waste everywhere, everything going nuclear, people dying left and right, people smoking tobacco, to much this and that, im not whining im try to tell people that i told them a thousand times before, you wanna save your life, your blood line, this world and everything on it, than walk work, to far away? ride a bike, move closer to town, pick up your garbage, plant some damn trees, don't build bombs and guns

If you stay stuff like this without acting upon your beliefs, you are defining the word poser.

quote:Originally posted by Lamabot:

Because he can't see or hear you he has to rely on your spelling to assess your personality. You can't expect anyone who pronounces "Nukalar" to say anything smart. Likewise you can't expect ne1 whoo tipes lik diz 2 sei intaligent fings

but you have to expect that, because people have come and people will come who probely wont be smart but are more respective and have more common sense that anyone around him

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

people say live by this. what is right for me? don't think about yourself you selfish bastard, you keep thinking like that you'll die for sertain. i look at places and i just see discust everywhere, waste everywhere, everything going nuclear, people dying left and right, people smoking tobacco, to much this and that, im not whining im try to tell people that i told them a thousand times before, you wanna save your life, your blood line, this world and everything on it, than walk work, to far away? ride a bike, move closer to town, pick up your garbage, plant some damn trees, don't build bombs and guns

The common civilians you come into contact with aren't gonna listen to a whiny 16-year old who says walk to work and recycle. You've got to show them why. And convince them it'll make a difference. It takes time and hard work to put together what you're trying to do.

You can't just bitch.

people will never do it though, everyone likes the easier life. the easier life gets the closer to death we are

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

but you have to expect that, because people have come and people will come who probely wont be smart but are more respective and have more common sense that anyone around him



Common sense and respect don't get you as far as smarts. You have to adapt and do what's necessary to acheive what you want.

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

people will never do it though, everyone likes the easier life. the easier life gets the closer to death we are

They won't do it if all you do is post. You've gotta act. Get it out there to the masses.

Finish your schooling, then, if this is something you're really passionate about, pursue it, using what you've learned. Wait until you have the means.

[This message has been edited by Merlinman2005 (edited 01-09-2007).]

you dont have to be smart to save life.....but im tired im going to bed....nice......talk

quote:Originally posted by Severedset:

you dont have to be smart to save life.....but im tired im going to bed....nice......talk

You dont have to be smart to save a life, but you have to be smart to save millions. I think millions is a better success rate, so shoot for that