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quote:'Palestinian Genocide Day' instead of Holocaust Day

Spanish town near Madrid decides to cancel international Holocaust Remembrance Day in lieu of 'Day of Palestinian Genocide'. Last minute action by Israeli Embassy, Spanish officials leads town to cancel both

Itamar Eichner

Published: 01.31.07, 10:56

While the rest of Europe marked the UN-established International Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27, a small town in Spain opted instead to commemorate the 'Day of Palestinian Genocide'.

Ciempozuelos, a Madrid suburb home to less than 20,000 residents, announced that it would hold ceremonies and public events in honor of the 'genocide of the Palestinian people'.

Following the town's announcement Israel's Ambassador to Spain Victor Harel issued an urgent message to Ciempozeulos mayor Susana León, a member of the ruling Spanish Socialist Workers Party (PSOE), asking him to reconsider his decision. Harel also turned to Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs Miguel Moratinos and the PSOE secretary general.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) publicly slammed the decision as "shameful."

In an open letter to León the ADL wrote: "Applying the term 'genocide' to the Arab-Israeli conflict encourages hatred toward the State of Israel and deliberately insults those of us, both Jews and non-Jews, who seek to solemnly commemorate the victims of the Nazi campaign of slaughter."

The affair was covered extensively by the Spanish press. El Mundo, the country's largest daily newspaper, ran an editorial on the Ciempozeulos affair under the title – 'An insult to Israel'.

The coverage led to numerous Spanish citizens contacting the Israeli embassy to voice their support for Israel, while at the same time the Ciempozeulos administration was flooded by angry phone calls from outraged citizens.

Following the request of the Spanish Foreign Affairs Ministry the town eventually decided to cancel 'Palestinian Genocide Day' as well as choosing to forgo any of the original Holocaust ceremonies.

Any trace of the affair was stricken from the town's official website.

"The pain does not only belong to one people," said Mayor León, adding that he was sorry for any distress that may have been caused.



It's disgusting that Ciempozeulos mayor Susana León of Spanish Socialist Workers Party scrapped the Holocaust Day for Palestinian Genocide Day when it was the Palestinians and the Arabs who wanted to drive the Jews to the sea.

A big horay to the Spanish citizens who told him to f.ck off

[This message has been edited by CrazyJ32 (edited 02-01-2007).]

awesome

lol @ a holocaust day

let's have this shit shoved down our throats more, yeah?

So we can only mourn one world tragedy is that it?

Oh those poor poor people who were killed in WWII but SCREW everyone else!

that's bullshit if ever i heard it why cant we mourn everyone/every incident.

Who gives a shit what Spaniards do?

Wow, they're on the same day? What a coincidence.

quote:Originally posted by among_the_living:

So we can only mourn one world tragedy is that it?



You dont get it. The only palestinian "genocide" is when the IDF destroys a munitions facility run by terrorists and a few ("") civilians are killed. (such civilians have been filmed lining up in front of terrorists as human sheilds)

The point you so blatently miss is the fact that jews come out of arguably the most horrible thing ever perpetrated upon a race (of peaceful people) to be hated, attacked, spat on, betrayed, and killed by more jew-haters. Than some idiot has the nerve to claim there actually is a "palestinian" "genocide" and insults the real victums by making this fake gemocide more important than the very people killed there.

Any questions?

quote:Originally posted by CrazyJ32:



You dont get it. The only palestinian "genocide" is when the IDF destroys a munitions facility run by terrorists and a few ("") civilians are killed. (such civilians have been filmed lining up in front of terrorists as human sheilds)



First off, I doubt you would mind when Muslim civilians are killed. As for human shields, support for militants is frequent in guerrilla warfare (like Vietnamese farmers harbouring the Vietcong). That's not to say I support the militants at all. I personally believe that the best way for Palestinians to resist is by grass-roots action and protest, not extremist leaders exploiting their plight. Now as for the genocide claims, I don't think this qualifies. I believe the Israeli military is overly aggressive, but they are not systematically killing them all. Driving them off of their land and creating several prisons is a form of ethnic cleansing, but not genocide. For the record, I am very upset by the replacement of Holocaust Day.

Nah I dont think they have to resist. The people they should protest against are the douchbag mullas, imams, politicians, and media that orginize, inspire, and cause this unjustifyble jew hatred. Then they could stop making the fake news vids and get to work improving their area.

But I dont think they are interested in this. "Palestein" is arguably the largest concentration of insane cultists in the world. Their children go to kindergarden to learn how to hate jews. Their kids try on play suicide belt toys. Their are unanimously training a generation for hatred and murder.

There is no hope for them, they are too thouraghly indoctrinated in hate and islam to change. They are the largest recipient, per capita, of charitable donations and government grants in the world. Virtually all this money gets funneled to jihad. Their youth go on stoning and shooting rampages against the IDF whom sit causually in their bunkers. Before the wall was erected they were able to go to the temple mount, accompanied by an Israeli appointed palestinian "gaurd." Israel did this out of respect for their religion which claims jews are haram and shouldn't set foot on or near a mosque. These "gaurds" were notorious for escorting suicide bombers and terrorists to their targets. Walid Shoebat used to be one such terrorist. When they get caught and go to jail jewish defence attorneys bust them out, so dont give me this "ethnic clensing by jail" crap. I wholeheartedly believe that >80% of these palis in jail are real criminals, and deserve to be there.

On a side note, yeah there is the occasional bad apple jew that does something wrong to a pali. But this is a rare occurence and jews arn't indoctrinated in hate for palis, muslims, or anybody. Infact there are many palis and muslims living in Israel right now. They have good living conditions, equal rights, etc. I once saw a program on the news where they polled several palis in Israel and jews. It had completely partisan results, with the muslims condemning Israel. They interviewed one infront of his house. He was wearing nice clothes and his neighborhood looked clean and kept. There was a nice car in his driveway and I suspect he had gaming systems in the house. This guy has all these nice things and dares to condemn Israel where if he were a jew living in palestein he would surely have been killed.

BS.

Since the Intifada, Israel has killed four times as many Palestinians as the Palestinians have killed Israelis. And as for the charity bullshit, America gives 60 times more money to Israel than it does to Palestine. And what about the embargo that, (according to a World Bank report) threatens to reduce individual income by %40? Another fact: America gives more to Israel than they do to Africa. You can speculate about the guilt of the prisoners all you wish, I agree that several of them deserve to be incarcerated, but some of them didn't get a trial. A United Nations envoy was once quoted as saying, "Israel has turned Gaza into a prison and thrown away the key". There are also walls that seperate them from their families and water supplies. And although Israel targetting civilians is an anomaly, they are not selective at all when striking, unless you think the family of seven playing at the beach were terrorists (well they were Muslims, so you'd probably think so). And it is true that children dress as suicide bombers and its shameful and disturbing that they are being brainwashed like this, but so is the Israeli children signing bombs before they were fired into Lebanon. And please, don't tell me that Israelis are more tolerant of Arabs. In a poll, %68 percent of Israelis say they would refuse to live in a building that had an Arab living in it. In conclusion, I think that Hamas and Fatah are not worthy of Palestinian support. Fatah was to busy with economic corruption, and Hamas is to preoccupied with terrorism that neither of them can properly service their citizenry. But you'll probably disregard this anyway, since you think Muslims are violent and primitive.

quote:Originally posted by shitty wok:Since the Intifada, Israel has killed four times as many Palestinians as the Palestinians have killed Israelis.

Oh -the intifada started by palestinian terrorists? For some reason I find myself unmoved by this statistic (assuming it is true) I am also unmoved by the female terrorist shields killed wile blocking bullets intended for terrorists. I am also unmoved by when such "innocent" victums are killed while hanging out near a bomb factory, heh, they were probably making lemonade for the terrorists inbtween teaching kids how to hate.

I am unmoved because hezbolla is well known to launch rocket attacks near civilian structures such as orphaniges. They do this knowing the idiotic UN and other dhimmi orginzations will condemn Israel for killing these civilians and other "civilians." Hamas does the same thing. The Israelis have visual proof of this, this is the kind of cowardly scum they have to deal with day in, day out.

Sorry but my give-a-damn is broken beyond all repair.



quote:Shitty Wok Said:

And as for the charity bullshit, America gives 60 times more money to Israel than it does to Palestine.

1. Any proof of this?

2. Like I care. They actually deserve it.



quote:Shitty Wok Said:

And what about the embargo that, (according to a World Bank report) threatens to reduce individual income by %40?

An embargo? Sounds like a good way to keep weapons out. And if the palis are concerned about food then they shouldn't have destroyed the irrigation system given to them by the Israelis.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

Another fact: America gives more to Israel than they do to Africa.

Evidence? If this is true than it is unfair and based on religion.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

You can speculate about the guilt of the prisoners all you wish, I agree that several of them deserve to be incarcerated, but some of them didn't get a trial.

I would speculate most of them because most of them eagerly participate in daily jihad, pallywood productions, death-to-israel rallys, death cult indoctrination, etc. Where there's smoke there's fire and I see a lot of smoke.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

A United Nations envoy was once quoted as saying, "Israel has turned Gaza into a prison and thrown away the key".

Bah! I could care less what the dhimmi corrupt UN says about anything, especially the paleostinians.

And besides, Israel might as well "throw away the key" because there is absolutely no sign of improvement in the paleo-mentality.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

There are also walls that seperate them from their families and water supplies.

1. are these walls within the outer walls?

2. If so got any links/evidence?

3. If not so than tough shit. They should have pondered such consequences when picking a fight with Israel.



quote:Shitty Wok Wrote:

And although Israel targetting civilians is an anomaly, they are not selective at all when striking, unless you think the family of seven playing at the beach were terrorists (well they were Muslims, so you'd probably think so).

Hah! That smells like a pallywood production if Iv ever heard of one. Got a link to the video?

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

And it is true that children dress as suicide bombers and its shameful and disturbing that they are being brainwashed like this, but so is the Israeli children signing bombs before they were fired into Lebanon.

Your right. That was highly uncalled for but so was having US troops sign bombs in WWII. Perhaps Israel feels like they are waging their own WWII?

quote:Shitty Wok Wrote:

And please, don't tell me that Israelis are more tolerant of Arabs. In a poll, %68 percent of Israelis say they would refuse to live in a building that had an Arab living in it.

OMG those poor arabs have the dishoner of jews not wanting to live with them I feel sooooo sorry for them, thats much worse than getting your head cut off for being a jew. Thats much worse than 90% believing the jews should be killed.

I say this to you: Israelis are waaay more tolerant of Arabs than arabs of jews.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

In conclusion, I think that Hamas and Fatah are not worthy of Palestinian support. Fatah was to busy with economic corruption, and Hamas is to preoccupied with terrorism that neither of them can properly service their citizenry. But you'll probably disregard this anyway, since you think Muslims are violent and primitive.

Yup. I just wish the citizens of palestein agreed with you.



On a side note: Stop accusing me of wanting all muslims dead. This is libeleous bullshit and a total lie as I have demonstrated on other threads.



[This message has been edited by CrazyJ32 (edited 02-03-2007).]

Noam Comsky's Hegenomy or Survival is a great source for information about the effects of the wall. And the TIME magazine special addition on the Middle East includes information on the Israeli attack that killed 7 innocent people at the beach. I admit that the UN has its flaws, but I trust the word of its Human Rights envoy. Plus, Amnesty International has often critisized Israel, so has the International Court of Justice. And while Hamas is treacherous because of their alliance with terrorism, so is the Likud party that, until recently, governed Israel, (Yigal Amir had ties to the Likud party and he assassinated Israel PM Yitzhak Rabin)

[This message has been edited by shitty wok (edited 02-04-2007).]

quote:Originally posted by shitty wok:

Noam Comsky's Hegenomy or Survival is a great source for information about the effects of the wall. And the TIME magazine special addition on the Middle East includes information on the Israeli attack that killed 7 innocent people at the beach.

And news france covered the "Al-Durah" incident bullshit that was proven untrue.

Im not saying this actually didn't happen, just that I suspect it's truth. They have made up shit like this before, and without proper a identification system in palestein these "victims" dissappear off the radar.

I need substantiation before I will believe anything from palestinians at face value. For example they have claimed that their ambulances were hit by rockets. The "rocket hole" in the roof of the ambulance was mearly a massive dent, there may have also been a small hole through the roof, either way hardly a rocket attack as the van would have been completely FUBAR.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

I admit that the UN has its flaws, but I trust the word of its Human Rights envoy. Plus, Amnesty International has often critisized Israel, so has the International Court of Justice.

Yeah its funny how quick they are to criticize Israel but they wont dare touch the horrible attrocities committed in muslim countries. These are the real human rights violations. Such as killing people for leaving islam, something muhammad made sunna per Bakhari, Ishaq, and Al-Tabari.

quote:Shitty Wok Said:

And while Hamas is treacherous because of their alliance with terrorism, so is the Likud party that, until recently, governed Israel, (Yigal Amir had ties to the Likud party and he assassinated Israel PM Yitzhak Rabin)

And what types of terrorism did this "Likud" party engage in?

quote:Originally posted by CrazyJ32:

And what types of terrorism did this "Likud" party engage in?

Killing Yitzhak Rabin? Like...what I just said?

quote:Originally posted by shitty wok:

Killing Yitzhak Rabin? Like...what I just said?

Oh. I didn't see that.

I have heard rumors about this, but only from a crazed christian that is obsessed with it. Is the only major incident? Also, when did this happened?

(Because he has a one-track mind about this incident I guess I ignored him as a crazy person. You have piqued my interest though)

Those dirty commies will die along with all the muslims.

http://tinyurl.com/23porv

making a palestinian genocide day instead of a halacausr day is just plain anti-semetic. they want the jews to look bad by accusing them of the same crimes that were commited against them. but the jews didn't systamticaly wipe outt the palestinian "race" like what hitler did.

but middle east politics are fucked up no matter what side you're on.

quote:Originally posted by MongolianThroatCancer:

making a palestinian genocide day instead of a halacausr day is just plain anti-semetic.

considering semetic people are BOTH the Hebrews and Arabs..that's hardly anti-semetic

quote:Originally posted by vazilizaitsev89:

considering semetic people are BOTH the Hebrews and Arabs..that's hardly anti-semetic



"an·ti–Sem·i·tism

Pronunciation:

\ˌan-tē-ˈse-mə-ˌti-zəm, ˌan-ˌtī-\

Function:

noun

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group."

fail.

quote:Originally posted by vazilizaitsev89:

considering semetic people are BOTH the Hebrews and Arabs..that's hardly anti-semetic



"an·ti–Sem·i·tism

Pronunciation:

\ˌan-tē-ˈse-mə-ˌti-zəm, ˌan-ˌtī-\

Function:

noun

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group."

fail.

CrazyJ32 sounds like a fake. If I wanted to create a character that was a bombastic, militant, Israeli it would sound and act a lot like Crazy. The whole "like I care" and "they deserve it!" crap is the created cadence of someone who probably has never even met a Jew, much less an Israeli.

I don't doubt there are a lot of Jews that see things in such a illogical way, but this one just rings false.

Of all the Jews I have met in person and online I never heard a single one talk or behave this way. Next, CrazyJ will probably tell us he/she drinks the blood of Christian children at Passover so that the stupid Gentiles really really believe they are a Jew.

If CrazyJ even responds to this post, ten bucks says it is taken out of context and I am accused of hating Jews.

[This message has been edited by specus_meretricis (edited 02-08-2007).]

Yeah, because if America got rid of Black History month and made it Asian History month, no one would get pissed...

You're looking at this all wrong, assholes.

quote:Originally posted by Nephtys-Ra:

Yeah, because if America got rid of Black History month and made it Asian History month, no one would get pissed...

You're looking at this all wrong, assholes.

Agreed. Unless they were trying to say "This is a genocide we want to try to prevent, like what is happening in Darfur ect." and using the day as a focus point and comparison. But just trying to replace it was short sighted at best.

quote:Originally posted by Nephtys-Ra:

Yeah, because if America got rid of Black History month and made it Asian History month, no one would get pissed...

You're looking at this all wrong, assholes.

What about the atrocities that the Asian people have gone through? Mao, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The Internment Camps in America during WW2? And lets not forget the technological breakthroughs and eastern philosophy that has risen out of Asia? Why shouldn't Asians get a "history" month? Would one month one year where we honor our Asian brothers instead of our Black brothers really be so offensive?

People have put the Holocaust on an untouchable pedastal. Its become something twisted. The deaths of any people should be mourned. The fact that people are outraged because they wanted to honor a different tragedy is really frightning. Why is there one day for the Holocaust. Shouldn't it be a day where all unnecessary, hateful deaths are mourned? From Sudan to Palastine to China to Russia, Cambodia, The Armenian Genocide, and the Shoah? Instead of actually learning anything from the Holocaust people have instead glorified it... turning it into just another celebrity.

quote:Originally posted by The_Administration:

What about the atrocities that the Asian people have gone through? Mao, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The Internment Camps in America during WW2? And lets not forget the technological breakthroughs and eastern philosophy that has risen out of Asia? Why shouldn't Asians get a "history" month? Would one month one year where we honor our Asian brothers instead of our Black brothers really be so offensive?

People have put the Holocaust on an untouchable pedastal. Its become something twisted. The deaths of any people should be mourned. The fact that people are outraged because they wanted to honor a different tragedy is really frightning. Why is there one day for the Holocaust. Shouldn't it be a day where all unnecessary, hateful deaths are mourned? From Sudan to Palastine to China to Russia, Cambodia, The Armenian Genocide, and the Shoah? Instead of actually learning anything from the Holocaust people have instead glorified it... turning it into just another celebrity.



Replacing a tragedy with a tragedy that DID NOT EVER OCCUR might be considered offensive, don't ya think? The last time I checked, Palestinians were not being seized, put in camps, and systimatically killed. Even if you think that retaliation against the constant attacks against Israel constitute genocide, there are A LOT OF DAYS IN THE YEAR. The fact that they wanted to replace the remembrance day of the Jewish Holocaust with the "Palestinian Holocaust" is a thinly-veiled anti-semitic act. If they want to make a day for that, they could put it any other day in the year.

And by the way, there is an official Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month, in May.