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Diputs
2007-02-16, 06:32
Okay so everyone in my family except my brother is NOT a christian. That's cool right? I don't really know but... here's the story.

My bro went to "service" today (whatever that means) and a couple hours after he got home he said, "Hey you know what Scotty told me about you?". So i gave my bro that "what" look then he said Scotty thinks you are WORLDLY. What the hell does that mean?

Mind ya that I only met Scotty twice and I NEVER got into a conversation with him that lasted more than 5 seconds. So... I really don't get what he meant by "worldly", or is he basing that from our two meetings?

totse please help me clarify what that guy just told me because I feel offended and I'm really pissed right now...

EDIT: forgot to say that Scotty and my bro are christian and the reason why I'm angry is it came from a christian... it's strange I don't really have any animosity towards all christians but i'm just pissed off gettin judged based off that.

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RAOVQ
2007-02-16, 06:41
being worldly is good. it means you know alot about how things work and how to make the best of it. not naive.

it's not an insult by any means.

edit: are you a chick and think he is calling you a slut??? because if you are then you are just being stupid.

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ArgonPlasma2000
2007-02-16, 06:42
By Christian definition you are worldly. "Worldly" in the Christian vocabulary is just that; of the world. It has connotations that you are a sinner and are an uneliever.

However, there are much stronger words in the vocabulary that he could have called you.

Also, "service" refers to Sunday or Wedsnesday night assembly or any other special gathering.

Tell your brother he is being an ass to you and shouldnt be trying to alienate you with namecalling. Hes setting a pretty bad example for other Christians.

This is a good time to point out that this is what gung-ho Christians tend to do when they have little to no clue as to what their religion is about beyond salvation.

This is coming from a Christian, mind you. Your brother needs to seriously grow up. Offending others with childish namecalling is the absolute worst thing you can do to someone who is an unbeliever. (Let me point out that I am using it to refer to you as being a non-Christian. Its not a flame.)

BTW, what denomination is he?

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Diputs
2007-02-16, 06:51
Hmm so it is a bad thing then?

I asked my bro what Scotty meant by "worldly" and he just scoffed and gave me an "i dont know" reply.

Oh and can you tell me what could be worse than calling me worldly?

and I do not know what a "denomination" is.

ArgonPlasma2000
2007-02-16, 06:59
Denomination: Is he baptist, pentacostal, episcopal, methodist? what? Please tell me he at least isnt a fucking Mormon, lol.

He could have said something like "sinner", "evil", "ungodly", "fornicator" (haha, reminds me of a Skinny Puppy song), "adulterer", et al. Just listen to all the crap that falls out of Pat Robertson's mouth to get an idea of the hate some so-called Christians spew out.

"Worldly" should be percieved as how you want it now that you know where its coming from and what it means. I would consider you the same, though, simply based on that you are a non-Christian and have no clue as to the inner workings of it. Again, thats by the Biblical definition, thats not me trying to flame.

I suppose I should point out that Christians are supposed to live by the "Judge not lest ye be judged" mentality, such that we are not to judge others unless we are clearly in the right and are not guilty of the same thing.

Personally, I try not to judge people because I am myself guilty of alot of things. However, I do know alot more of the Bible than the average fellow believer, so I will judge actions and intents based on Bible doctrine and try to explain why its wrong whenever I can. That way, judgement isnt coming from me, but from God by proxy.



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Diputs
2007-02-16, 07:23
Okay so I am sure he was the one at fault then. our two meetings were basically me driving my brother to the hospital to get a flu shot but my brother decided to have Scotty come along. The second one was me driving my bro to a clothing store and Scotty had to come with us for whatever reason...

I still dont understand why he'd say that. My bro said a long time ago that Scotty read the bible many times. Not that it matters but for him to say something like that... I just can't believe it. It sounds more like my bro is just making it look like someone else is to be blamed for something that he really said.

But I am not really worried about that. I'm more worried about how my bro looks at me now. I'm not saying it's wrong because just as argonplasma said (i can perceive the word according to my situation), but from a different aspect I'm more hardworking than him and I contribute more in and for the family. For him to say something like that is totally out of line.

Understanding the message just made me even more pissed. I mean, I have a job and he's got none, I do all the chores because he says he's sick but he hangs out with his friends every frigging day. All he does is sit in front of his computer all day when I work my ass off in school and at work and when I get home theres a pile of chores waiting on me! Heck i pay for my own, my parents pays for all his expenses and he obviously spends more money than I do.

on top of all that for him (or scotty) to call me such a word is just not right.

Im not sayin I should be called that... but is there any way I can do something to justify myself? I just feel like I have to do something about it.

damn I went on a rant there, sorry

ArgonPlasma2000
2007-02-16, 07:41
Since your brother and I, as Christians, are on the same point of reference as to our beliefs (at least I hope for your brother... =/ ), I cant say there is anything you can do to justify yourself.

That isnt to say much, as justification in this case is nothing more than a revenge scheme anyway. Right? (think about that for a second...)

Your brother needs to do some maturing both in interpersonal relationships and in his religion. Honestly, you dont get hold a grudge against a child when he does something stupid, do you? The Bible calls them "baby" Christians, which are still on the milk of the faith (that is, the basic salvation premise; basic things), but are not ready for the greater doctrine. This is in reference to spiritual maturity.

Dont hold a grudge against your brother, as I see you are. If not for a holdout to conversion, but at least in that everyone needs family.

I see at the end you are trying to justify your point through your works. I still have to see this through Christianity when I say this, but your works dont mean jack in the end.

However, you need to tell your brother he needs to chose his words better before he opens his mouth. Unfortunately I dont have a set of verses dealing with the topic, but tell your brother to study what the Bible has to say about tact.

If anything, you should come away as the better person and let this be a lesson to him.

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Diputs
2007-02-16, 08:00
Hmm I'll forgive him then and give him another chance as always.

and yes I didnt realize it until now but I was feeling more on the side of revenge than justification.

Thanks argonplasma for the wisdom.

ArgonPlasma2000
2007-02-16, 08:01
Anytime.

RAOVQ
2007-02-16, 11:03
well i failed. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)

JesuitArtiste
2007-02-16, 11:45
quote:Originally posted by RAOVQ:

well i failed. http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/frown.gif)



I can't explain how funny I found that http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)

Rizzo in a box
2007-02-16, 13:57
Worldy = materialist

be on this world, but not of it.

AngryFemme
2007-02-16, 14:30
quote:Originally posted by Diputs:



on top of all that for him (or scotty) to call me such a word is just not right.

Im not sayin I should be called that... but is there any way I can do something to justify myself? I just feel like I have to do something about it.

Sticks.And.Stones.

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