I think, that God made the universe. The only reason why I say God did it, is because I hope some kind of person made it. Not an atom.

So, I think he just made the universe and left it at that. And let us grow.

Mind explaining what created God?

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The Universe

He made one thing, and let it grow and react and all that crap.

Sugar, Spice and Jews.

the way i figure is that we are but an atom or molecule for a larger being/object in another universe. It truly is the only reason that makes sense. One could then argue what created that even larger universe but whoever created everything also made it imposable for us to understand or even consider what created everything. Instead we are made to work the thought in circles. ie: "god created the universe" "mind explaining who created god then?" stuff like that

quote:Originally posted by Death of a Nation:

Mind explaining what created God?

Revelation 22:13

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

God simply always was, and always will be. God was never "created", and god can never be destroyed.

Like a circle, which has no beginning or end.

Still, due to the logic theorem all must make sense.

Therefore having something exist always is impossible.

my question is, who created god?

Or if you are dumb enough...

What came first the chicken or the egg?

Fuck this theoretical bullshit. Seriously.

I dont buy into the creation theory. And honestly, the big bang -could- have happened, but it's so theoretical that I dont think we could ever know exactly what happened.

As far as I'm concerned, the universe is here now. The universe was here last week. Last month. Last year. Ten years ago. A hundred years ago. A million years ago. And it makes more sense to me that the universe was -always- here. That makes sense to me. A lot more then some fictional omnipotent santa clause getting bored. A lot more sense then a random atom deciding it wants to do something with its life. It always was, and always will be. We're just along for this brief fragment of the ride.

quote:Originally posted by HideandSeek:

Revelation 22:13

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

God simply always was, and always will be. God was never "created", and god can never be destroyed.

Like a circle, which has no beginning or end.

Thats it get the bible out, ask yourself what have yoy proven by saying that, that's the equivalent of saying "It just is, no more explanation is needed".

Do you realise when the bible was translated through various different languages a huge amount of it was undecipherable so it was missed out, nothing written in the bible should be considered proof for any arguament, because it's an unreliable, just like using wikipedia to prove a point.

It seems to me you call christians stupid when they think an all powerful being has been around forever but fail to care that for your life to begin there had to be a begining and according to the big bang something had to be around forever if nothing created it and if that was created something else had to be there forever and so on and so on.Therefore,I find it bias of you to think im stupid for believing God has been around forever and not care what the other people say about something else being around forever especially considering that mine is all powerful.

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The big bang nor god exist(ed)

Theorem of logic proves both of them wrong.

That's why I believe in aliens putting us here as a sociological experiment.

But, who created the Aliens?

quote:Originally posted by SAMMY249:

It seems to me you call christians stupid when they think an all powerful being has been around forever but fail to care that for your life to begin there had to be a begining and according to the big bang something had to be around forever if nothing created it and if that was created something else had to be there forever and so on and so on.Therefore,I find it bias of you to think im stupid for believing God has been around forever and not care what the other people say about something else being around forever especially considering that mine is all powerful.



Theres nothing wrong with believing something created us. Believing that it cares and watches over us is another matter all together, I fully support the theory of a higher being as its one of the only theories thats not a swiss cheese of flaws.

Don't know...yet

quote:Originally posted by Death of a Nation:

[B]Mind explaining what created God?



There is the theory that god creates himself. The ongoing question that god asks himself is "What do I want to be now?" He decides what he wants to be, dies, and is then reborn in the next moment as whatever he wishes to be. This, in a way, is the same as humans. We conciously or unconsciously make decisions as to what and who we want to be in each moment. We constanlty create and recreate ourselves. As does god.

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I believe the big bang created our three dimensional universe with all the physical laws that are around today. However, I do not believe that the big bang was the beginning of time nor do I believe that their is one universe which contains the entirety of existence. I believe time and space are infinite and that there are infinite universes all coexisting with different dimensions and physical laws. Unfortunately, if this is true, it means nothing is of much importance.

I don't think that the universe had a beginning. Thinking that it did at this point is merely speculation. The red shift that is so famous only accounts for the visible portion of the universe, and the universe is so vast it's incomprehensible.

"God" is alpha and omega, he has no beginning and no end. This is probably true with the universe as well.

The existence of opposites has likely always been and always will be. If everything was the same and constantly at peace, nothing would exist.

These are my speculations