I was noticing that the books of Matthew, Luke, and John all state that Jesus said different things when he died...How can people live there life by a book of such contradictions? A book of this magnitude should be perfect, who's to say that these problems aren't just mere contradictions, but complete fallacies?

Exactly, the bible has been altered through the course of time. See how there are many different versions as well, translated already form another language. That's why the bible is not what we should go by. Only one book of god stands true.

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I'm sure you can find the answer to whatever contradiction you found in one of these links:

http://kingdavid8.com/Contradictions/Home.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Bible/Contra/list.html

http://www.rationalchristianity.net/143contrad.html

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/false.html

quote:Originally posted by Psykadelic:

Exactly, the bible has been altered through the course of time. See how there are many different versions as well, translated already form another language. That's why the bible is not what we should go by. Only one book of god stands true.

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I know my Bible is correct,and they dont contradict.

quote:Originally posted by SAMMY249:

I know my Bible is correct,and they dont contradict.

But if you found out they did, thus suggesting the Bible might be flawed, (deeming it incorrect and far-from-perfect), would you be willing to reconsider the whole God idea?

I know that a big resounding "No!" will come out of you, so don't even bother responding to this.

I'm just pointing out how a person who is adamantly sure about what they have already made up their minds to be true beyond a doubt is inadvertently screwing themselves out of learning the full scope of all that they could potentially learn.

Not considering all angles, even for the sake of just musing on it to possibly feel a different perspective - is detrimental to a healthy mental outlook.

It's a closed box. And you'll always be trapped in it, because you won't pry loose the rusty old nails of false certainty that has been hammered into the box and is holding you captive.

"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."

I think you need to review the meaning of the term "faith" a bit longer.

And I think you need to re-read SAMMYS post. He didn't say "I have faith my Bible is correct." He said: "I know my Bible is correct."

Edit: Otherwise, I wouldn't have felt the urgency to respond as I did to convey my perspective.



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quote:Originally posted by AngryFemme:

And I think you need to re-read SAMMYS post. He didn't say "I have faith my Bible is correct." He said: "I know my Bible is correct."

Edit: Otherwise, I wouldn't have felt the urgency to respond as I did to convey my perspective.



I was talking to the OP.

quote:Originally posted by AngryFemme:

I'm just pointing out how a person who is adamantly sure about what they have already made up their minds to be true beyond a doubt is inadvertently screwing themselves out of learning the full scope of all that they could potentially learn.

Not considering all angles, even for the sake of just musing on it to possibly feel a different perspective - is detrimental to a healthy mental outlook.

It's a closed box. And you'll always be trapped in it, because you won't pry loose the rusty old nails of false certainty that has been hammered into the box and is holding you captive.

"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."

And Have You Ever Seriously Considered Any Other Angle Than The Darkness You Have Surrounded Yourself With? Certainly No More Than Any Christian, I Suspect.

Lacrima:

Without resorting to a bunch of links, I'd like to point out the most basic problem the bible has... it was not written by one person, but rather is a collection of gospels. Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, or whomever. They're only human, and like us are bound by their perceptions. And like in that old Telephone kid's game, each might perceive things differently. A failure to have perfectly matching accounts of the same thing doesn't mean much.

That's not to say I grant the Bible much credibility, because it should also be noted that the Bible was not put together by God, and therefore is subject to other human faiings, such as inadequate or mistranslation, or politics. To mention but a few.

quote:Originally posted by Iehovah:

Lacrima:

Without resorting to a bunch of links, I'd like to point out the most basic problem the bible has... it was not written by one person, but rather is a collection of gospels. Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, or whomever. They're only human, and like us are bound by their perceptions. And like in that old Telephone kid's game, each might perceive things differently. A failure to have perfectly matching accounts of the same thing doesn't mean much.

That's not to say I grant the Bible much credibility, because it should also be noted that the Bible was not put together by God, and therefore is subject to other human faiings, such as inadequate or mistranslation, or politics. To mention but a few.



Yes, this does seem to be absolutely correct. I believe that it is extremely stupid to believe that (some) stories in the bible are impossible. It is also extremely stupid to believe that the entirety of the bible is true, as it surely is not.

I guess this is just one of those things that can't be proven or disproven. Oh well...

Everyone knows that every version of the Bible is correct down to every single letter it contains and there are no contradictions...jeeeeeeez.

lol, the bible never conrtadicts its self! for that to be contradicting one would say "please God forgive them for they do not know what they do" and the other "please God smite them for they know what they do"! simple errors in translation and phrases that are worded differ. is not contradictions. but i guess if your a retarded athiest then you would take it as so. two differ people heard it and then wrote it down a whole 30-40 years later. of course they wont remember everything word for word they are just human how could they? but they still wrote the same thing when did anyone of Jesus' teachings contradict? never, so shut up with this contradicting bs!

ps. and for the ot differing from the nt how would you know you never read the whole bible. informed Christians know the reasoning and im sure the nt even would state it aswell!

Here is a link that puts to rest the "contradictions" http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/answered/answered3.htm

Plz feel free to comment....

quote:Originally posted by SAMMY249:

Here is a link that puts to rest the "contradictions" http:// www.genesi (http: //www.gene sispark.co m/genpark/ answered/a nswered3.h tm) spark.com/genpark/answered/answered3.htm

Plz feel free to comment....

Those are seriously pretty retarted comebacks. A lot of them are pretty subjective.

quote:Originally posted by lacrima97:

Those are seriously pretty retarted comebacks. A lot of them are pretty subjective.

ya..

besides, regardless of whether the bible is contradictive or not, its just a work of fiction, and nobody has been able to prove so otherwise.

If I based my life on The Prophet (fictional) by Kahlil Gibran then would I be living wrong?

quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

And Have You Ever Seriously Considered Any Other Angle Than The Darkness You Have Surrounded Yourself With? Certainly No More Than Any Christian, I Suspect.

Darkness? http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/confused.gif)

Whatchoo talkin' about, Willis? I'm a Bright! (http://www.the-brights.net/)



And FYI, I lived half my life believing in God. I've spent the rest of it exploring why I fell for that ruse.

Conclusion: I simply didn't know any better at the time.