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mustache rider
2007-03-26, 00:46
For those of you who the proof of profecy is not enough, nor the proof of textual evidence, nor the proof of people living with Jesus Christ himself, nor the proof of Historians, here is Scientific Proof of the Holy Book.

The Bible is not a science book, yet it is scientifically accurate. We are not aware of any scientific evidence that contradicts the Bible.



Statements Consistent With Paleontology

Dinosaurs are referred to in several Bible books. The book of Job describes two dinosaurs. One is described in chapter 40 starting at verse 15, and the other in chapter 41 starting at verse 1. We think you will agree that 1½ chapters about dinosaurs is a lot—since most people do not even realize that they are mentioned in the Bible. (Actually reading the Bible would help, though.)

Statements Consistent With Astronomy

* The Bible frequently refers to the great number of stars in the heavens. Here are two examples.

Genesis 22:17

Blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.

Jeremiah 33:22

“As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.”

Even today, scientists admit that they do not know how many stars there are. Only about 3,000 can be seen with the naked eye. We have seen estimates of 1021 stars—which is a lot of stars.[2] (The number of grains of sand on the earth’s seashores is estimated to be 1025. As scientists discover more stars, wouldn’t it be interesting to discover that these two numbers match?)

* The Bible also says that each star is unique.

1 Corinthians 15:41

There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

All stars look alike to the naked eye.* Even when seen through a telescope, they seem to be just points of light. However, analysis of their light spectra reveals that each is unique and different from all others.[1] (*Note: We understand that people can perceive some slight difference in color and apparent brightness when looking at stars with the naked eye, but we would not expect a person living in the first century A.D. to claim they differ from one another.)

* The Bible describes the precision of movement in the universe.

Jeremiah 31:35,36

Thus says the LORD,

Who gives the sun for a light by day,

The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,

Who disturbs the sea,

And its waves roar

(The LORD of hosts is His name):

“If those ordinances depart

From before Me, says the LORD,

Then the seed of Israel shall also cease

From being a nation before Me forever.”

* The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space.

Job 26:7

He stretches out the north over empty space;

He hangs the earth on nothing.

Statements Consistent With Meteorology

* The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.

Ecclesiastes 1:6

The wind goes toward the south,

And turns around to the north;

The wind whirls about continually,

And comes again on its circuit.

* The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.

Job 28:25

To establish a weight for the wind,

And apportion the waters by measure.

The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago. The relative weights of air and water are needed for the efficient functioning of the world’s hydrologic cycle, which in turn sustains life on the earth.[1] (If you are a physics enthusiast, please ignore our omission of the terms mass, gravity, and density from this comment.)

Statements Consistent With Biology

* The book of Leviticus (written prior to 1400 BC) describes the value of blood.

Leviticus 17:11

‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’

The blood carries water and nourishment to every cell, maintains the body’s temperature, and removes the waste material of the body’s cells. The blood also carries oxygen from the lungs throughout the body. In 1616, William Harvey discovered that blood circulation is the key factor in physical life—confirming what the Bible revealed 3,000 years earlier.[1]

* The Bible describes biogenesis (the development of living organisms from other living organisms) and the stability of each kind of living organism.

Genesis 1:11,12

Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:21

So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:25

And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

The phrase “according to its kind” occurs repeatedly, stressing the reproductive integrity of each kind of animal and plant. Today we know this occurs because all of these reproductive systems are programmed by their genetic codes.[1]

* The Bible describes the chemical nature of flesh.

Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 3:19

In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread

Till you return to the ground,

For out of it you were taken;

For dust you are,

And to dust you shall return.

* It is a proven fact that a person’s mental and spiritual health is strongly correlated with physical health.[1] The Bible revealed this to us with these statements (and others) written by King Solomon about 950 BC.

Proverbs 12:4

An excellent wife is the crown of her husband,

But she who causes shame is like rottenness in his bones.

Proverbs 14:30

A sound heart is life to the body,

But envy is rottenness to the bones.

Proverbs 15:30

The light of the eyes rejoices the heart,

And a good report makes the bones healthy.

Proverbs 16:24

Pleasant words are like a honeycomb,

Sweetness to the soul and health to the bones.

Proverbs 17:22

A merry heart does good, like medicine,

But a broken spirit dries the bones.

Statements Consistent With Anthropology

We have cave paintings and other evidence that people inhabited caves. The Bible also describes cave men.

Job 30:5,6

They were driven out from among men,

They shouted at them as at a thief.

They had to live in the clefts of the valleys,

In caves of the earth and the rocks.

Note that these were not ape-men, but descendants of those who scattered from Babel. They were driven from the community by those tribes who competed successfully for the more desirable regions of the earth. Then for some reason they deteriorated mentally, physically, and spiritually.[1] (Go into a bad part of your town and you will see this concept in action today.)

Statements Consistent With Hydrology

* The bible includes reasonably complete descriptions of the hydrologic cycle.[3]

Psalm 135:7

He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;

He makes lightning for the rain;

He brings the wind out of His treasuries.

Jeremiah 10:13

When He utters His voice,

There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:

“And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth.

He makes lightning for the rain,

He brings the wind out of His treasuries.”

In these verses you can see several phases of the hydrologic cycle—the worldwide processes of evaporation, translation aloft by atmospheric circulation, condensation with electrical discharges, and precipitation.[1]

Job 36:27-29

For He draws up drops of water,

Which distill as rain from the mist,

Which the clouds drop down

And pour abundantly on man.

Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,

The thunder from His canopy?

This simple verse has remarkable scientific insight. The drops of water which eventually pour down as rain first become vapor and then condense to tiny liquid water droplets in the clouds. These finally coalesce into drops large enough to overcome the updrafts that suspend them in the air.[1]

* The Bible describes the recirculation of water.

Ecclesiastes 1:7

All the rivers run into the sea,

Yet the sea is not full;

To the place from which the rivers come,

There they return again.

Isaiah 55:10

For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven,

And do not return there,

But water the earth,

And make it bring forth and bud,

That it may give seed to the sower

And bread to the eater,

* The Bible refers to the surprising amount of water that can be held as condensation in clouds.

Job 26:8

He binds up the water in His thick clouds,

Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

Job 37:11

Also with moisture He saturates the thick clouds;

He scatters His bright clouds.

* Hydrothermal vents[4] are described in two books of the Bible written before 1400BC—more than 3,000 years before their discovery by science.

Genesis 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Job 38:16

Have you entered the springs of the sea?

Or have you walked in search of the depths?

We discuss the “fountains of the great deep” further in our Creation Versus Evolution page.



Statements Consistent With Geology

* The Bible describes the Earth’s crust (along with a comment on astronomy).

Jeremiah 31:37

Thus says the LORD:

“If heaven above can be measured,

And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,

I will also cast off all the seed of Israel

For all that they have done, says the LORD.”

Although some scientists claim that they have now measured the size of the universe, it is interesting to note that every human attempt to drill through the earth’s crust to the plastic mantle beneath has, thus far, ended in failure.[1]

* The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical.

Isaiah 40:22

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,

And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,

Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,

And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

The word translated “circle” here is the Hebrew word chuwg which is also translated “circuit,” or “compass” (depending on the context). That is, it indicates something spherical, rounded, or arched—not something that is flat or square.

The book of Isaiah was written sometime between 740 and 680 BC. This is at least 300 years before Aristotle suggested that the earth might be a sphere in this book On the Heavens.

This brings up an important historical note related to this topic. Many people are aware of the conflict between Galileo and the Roman Catholic Pope, Paul V. After publishing A Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, Galileo was summoned to Rome, where he was forced to renounce his findings. (At that time, “theologians” of the Roman Catholic Church maintained that the Earth was the center of the universe, and to assert otherwise was deemed heretical.)

We could not find any place in the Bible that claims that the Earth is flat, or that it is the center of the universe. History shows that this conflict, which took place at the time of the Inquisition, was part of a power struggle. As a result, scientific and biblical knowledge became casualties—an effect we still feel to this day.



Statements Consistent With Physics

* The Bible suggests the presence of nuclear processes like those we associate with nuclear weaponry. This is certainly not something that could have been explained in 67 AD using known scientific principles (when Peter wrote the following verse).

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

* The television is a practical (if not always worthwhile smile ) device that uses electromagnetic waves (which transmit its video signal). The Bible contains passages that describe something like television—something that allows everyone on earth see a single event. (Note: such passages typically refer to the end of time. It may not be long before all of us learn for sure whether the Bible is true or not.)

Matthew 24:30

Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 11:9-11

Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth. Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

Thank You

MasterPython
2007-03-26, 01:06
Your point being?

Diabolic acid
2007-03-26, 01:15
All science has proved is that you're retarded if you think that I am going to read all of that- especially when you don't even know how to spell PROPHECY.

Q777
2007-03-26, 01:15
I could copy and past a long article to.

Masta Thief
2007-03-26, 01:25
Very intersting! you try and prove God through the bible and such, and i go through nature and science! dynamic duo! lol

too bad they wont listen to your stuff and just laugh when i tell them how they are wrong using thier very own science(which they havnt been able to argue)! poor souls!

ps. dont listen to them socialist athiest bastards, i like reading your stuff!

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Diabolic acid
2007-03-26, 01:38
quote:ps. dont listen to them socialist athiest bastards

First of all, no one is going to listen to you if you don't know what a socialist is, and secondly you're not a Christian if you're going to call Atheists bastards. Jesus said love everybody regardless of who they are. Thirdly, Atheist is spelled Atheist.

AngryFemme
2007-03-26, 01:39
There is no point to be had, with mustache rider. Ever.

quote: For those of you who the proof of profecy is not enough, nor the proof of textual evidence, nor the proof of people living with Jesus Christ himself, nor the proof of Historians, here is Scientific Proof of the Holy Book.

"Profesies" can't be considered proof by ANY measure, for ANY discipline. Proof that people lived at the same time as Jesus Christ, per historian accounts, just proves that Jesus was a man, it means nothing at all regarding the fallacies and inconsistencies in the Bible.

All mustache rider did was copy and paste a bunch of loose Bible interpretations, not having the good form of using even a quoting format, or citing his source at the end of all that nonsense so it can show that his "proof" was plucked right off of a Creationist-driven website that would quote the fucking Easter Bunny if they thought it would make their claims just that much more legitimate.

quote: The Bible is not a science book, yet it is scientifically accurate. We are not aware of any scientific evidence that contradicts the Bible.

"Not aware" means they won't take off the blindfold or pull their fingers out of their ears every time the Bible is shown to be less-than-perfect.

Masta Thief
2007-03-26, 01:49
quote:Originally posted by Diabolic acid:

First of all, no one is going to listen to you if you don't know what a socialist is, and secondly you're not a Christian if you're going to call Atheists bastards. Jesus said love everybody regardless of who they are. Thirdly, Atheist is spelled Atheist.

your an ass! i know exactly what a socialist is you dumbfuck! and just because i love you dosnt mean i cant disslike bitches like you!



o wait a sec where do you work again????

McDonalds? ya ya thats what i thought!

Clarphimous
2007-03-26, 02:52
quote:* The Bible also says that each star is unique.

1 Corinthians 15:41

There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

All stars look alike to the naked eye.* Even when seen through a telescope, they seem to be just points of light. However, analysis of their light spectra reveals that each is unique and different from all others.[1] (*Note: We understand that people can perceive some slight difference in color and apparent brightness when looking at stars with the naked eye, but we would not expect a person living in the first century A.D. to claim they differ from one another.)

* The Bible describes the precision of movement in the universe.

This is absolute, complete bullshit. Firstly, it does not say each star is unique, just that some are brighter than others. In contrast to what the article says, some stars are obviously WAY brighter than others in apparent magnitude (which is what the verses were referring to), and therefore we CAN expect a person living in the first century A.D. to claim they differ from one another. Take Sirius, for example. It is one of the first to show up at dusk. You can easily see it "twinkle." Betelguese, the red giant, is obviously red/orange in color. Whoever wrote this article is certainly not a stargazer. Let's not forget that there are also the planets, which the people assumed were stars because they look like bright stars. Where is the scientific accuracy of these verses here? Also, the sun is not described as a star, as one would expect if one was speaking to an astronomer about it.

Some ancient people took great studies of the stars. Like the alchemists were the precursors to the chemists, the ancient priest astrologers were the precursors to modern astronomers. The Persians were famous for their knowledge of the stars, and their priests were called magi. Remember the story of Jesus and the three wise men following the BRIGHT STAR IN THE SKY? Yep, that's right. Those were Persian astrologers of the Zoroastrian faith.

quote:Genesis 22:17

Blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.

Jeremiah 33:22

“As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.”

Even today, scientists admit that they do not know how many stars there are. Only about 3,000 can be seen with the naked eye. We have seen estimates of 1021 stars—which is a lot of stars.[2] (The number of grains of sand on the earth’s seashores is estimated to be 1025. As scientists discover more stars, wouldn’t it be interesting to discover that these two numbers match?)

Riiight... by specifying how those two numbers will match up, rather than simply being figurative, it's suggesting that eventually there will be 10^25 Jews. That is about 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 people. In 2005 (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html) there were about 13 million Jews. Wow, so much for the rapture coming sometime soon.

Yeah, I knew what he meant. But if you're interpreting it so literally that you're trying to get those two numbers to match up, it's unreasonable to assume that the part about the population of the Jewish people is figurative.

Also, the number of stars that they talk about is the number of stars in the observable universe. Outside of what they call the "event horizon" of the universe, you can't see anything else, because light hasn't had enough time to travel from there since the universe became transparent (which was not too long after the big bang). It is possible that there could be an infinite number of stars.

Erg... head is feeling drowsy from meds. I'll stop here and post.

Phil_Gore_88
2007-03-26, 03:24
There are only 1025 grains of sand on all of earths shores?

And a lot of those passages don't prove anything. They are just coincidental.

"one star differs from another in glory"

Yeah, stars are all different. All stars look different. Besides, I'm pretty sure that was just a metaphor to show how great his glory was.

I_quit_reading_after_that.

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boozehound420
2007-03-26, 03:36
quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

For those of you who the proof of profecy is not enough,



The book of revelation was written by a common pesent, describing the rule and power of the roman government (this was a time when there were no countries, you didnt have to be roman, or want to be to be under there rule. Every statement or (prophecy) makes sense when you put in its historical context.

quote: * The Bible describes the precision of movement in the universe.

Jeremiah 31:35,36

Thus says the LORD,

Who gives the sun for a light by day,

The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,

Who disturbs the sea,

And its waves roar

(The LORD of hosts is His name):

“If those ordinances depart

From before Me, says the LORD,

Then the seed of Israel shall also cease

From being a nation before Me forever.”

Uhhhh, so the person who wrote this is trying to say people back then couldnt realise the sun was supplying light by day and the moon and stars by night.



quote:Statements Consistent With Biology

* The book of Leviticus (written prior to 1400 BC) describes the value of blood.

Leviticus 17:11

‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’

So people back then didnt realise that if you bleed too much you DIE!!. Ya ok, because people didnt bleed back then?

quote:* The Bible describes the chemical nature of flesh.

Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 3:19

In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread

Till you return to the ground,

For out of it you were taken;

For dust you are,

And to dust you shall return.

LOL uhhhh how is that the chemical nature of flesh. To be 2:7 is describing the first breath of air, just like, ummm lets see, EVERY BABY THATS BORN. I guess this person has never seen a baby born.

quote:Statements Consistent With Geology

* The Bible describes the Earth’s crust (along with a comment on astronomy).

Jeremiah 31:37

Thus says the LORD:

“If heaven above can be measured,

And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,

I will also cast off all the seed of Israel

For all that they have done, says the LORD.”

How the fuck is that describing the earths crust. All its talking about is if one can attempt to measure the sky/space/heaven then one can try and measure whats beneath. And a verse talking about killing all the jews, or banishing them.

quote:Statements Consistent With Physics

* The Bible suggests the presence of nuclear processes like those we associate with nuclear weaponry.

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

You do realise there was blacksmiths back then. Melting metals with heat.



ALways good for a laugh. Somebody can take up some of the other ones.

Diabolic acid
2007-03-26, 03:38
quote:Originally posted by Masta Thief:

your an ass! i know exactly what a socialist is you dumbfuck! and just because i love you dosnt mean i cant disslike bitches like you!



o wait a sec where do you work again????

McDonalds? ya ya thats what i thought!

You're a very angry child aren't you? It's no wonder you need religion. I wasn't even being an ass.. believe me, I could have thrown whatever profanity that I wanted at you without saying anything significant and left it at that. Anyway, I could probably point out your contradictions until the end of time and you would still be using your diversion tactics and self defense mechanisms.

Oh no, you don't know what the hell you're talking about so it must mean that I work at McDonald's! Grow up. And just to show how foolish you are (once again), I work in the engineering/R&D department of a consumer electronics company- which is information that I provided in my profile. Wow, I'm wasting my time.

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Lamabot
2007-03-26, 07:50
quote:Originally posted by boozehound420:

So people back then didnt realise that if you bleed too much you DIE!!. Ya ok, because people didnt bleed back then?

* The Bible describes the chemical nature of flesh.

Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 3:19

In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread

Till you return to the ground,

For out of it you were taken;

For dust you are,

And to dust you shall return.

LOL uhhhh how is that the chemical nature of flesh. To be 2:7 is describing the first breath of air, just like, ummm lets see, EVERY BABY THATS BORN. I guess this person has never seen a baby born.

quote:Statements Consistent With Geology

* The Bible describes the Earth’s crust (along with a comment on astronomy).

Jeremiah 31:37

Thus says the LORD:

“If heaven above can be measured,

And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,

I will also cast off all the seed of Israel

For all that they have done, says the LORD.”

How the fuck is that describing the earths crust. All its talking about is if one can attempt to measure the sky/space/heaven then one can try and measure whats beneath. And a verse talking about killing all the jews, or banishing them.

quote:Statements Consistent With Physics

* The Bible suggests the presence of nuclear processes like those we associate with nuclear weaponry.

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

You do realise there was blacksmiths back then. Melting metals with heat.



ALways good for a laugh. Somebody can take up some of the other ones.



The more laughable is the inclusion of the stars one. Wow looking into the night sky you can see a shitload of stars, that is quite scientific.



‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’

So it says that blood is the essence of life? That is way too ambiguous to be considered an intelligent statement by a 6 year old, not to mention this passage advocates fucking blood sacrifice.

(Life=Blood, You have altar, You have to atone for your soul, Blood atones for the soul therefore you need to spill blood or life on the altar to atone for the soul, very christian)

The whole notion of such claims is as ridiculous as seeing a 4 year old say "Bobby you look like your dada" and attribute the knowledge of the inheritance of genes through meiosis and fertilization as well as the controlled gene expression.



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chickenpoop
2007-03-26, 09:06
quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:



Statements Consistent With Anthropology

We have cave paintings and other evidence that people inhabited caves. The Bible also describes cave men.

Job 30:5,6

They were driven out from among men,

They shouted at them as at a thief.

They had to live in the clefts of the valleys,

In caves of the earth and the rocks.

Note that these were not ape-men, but descendants of those who scattered from Babel. They were driven from the community by those tribes who competed successfully for the more desirable regions of the earth. Then for some reason they deteriorated mentally, physically, and spiritually.[1] (Go into a bad part of your town and you will see this concept in action today.)



Being an anthropologist, my first instict is to be disgusted. Then I immediately realize you have no idea about what you're talking about..beyond scripture....a reliable source...HAHAHHA...........

GTFO

Cheeselicker
2007-03-26, 17:29
The bible was not written in English. Hell, it wasn't even written in Latin. Try putting something through google translator a few times to see if you get the same meaning.

Xerxes89
2007-03-26, 19:26
quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

For those of you who the proof of profecy is not enough, nor the proof of textual evidence, nor the proof of people living with Jesus Christ himself, nor the proof of Historians, here is Scientific Proof of the Holy Book.

Note: The only thing you have proven are random quotes from the bible, which was written by HUMANS. No gods there - people created gods so the dumb can follow the smart/rich.

Therefore, several claims written in the bible BY HUMANS (not gods, dumbass), is accurate.

Your point being?

Pyronos
2007-03-26, 21:20
Mustache Rider is the ultimate fusion of troll and fucktard.

Do not feed him your anguish, lest you be dismayed.

Iam
2007-03-26, 22:45
Dinosaurs: The verses you reference are vague in their description as being of 'dinosaurs' and contain necessarily allegoricaly sayings like "He moves his tail like a cedar," They are about as accurately descriptive of dinosaurs as they are of just about any mythological beast, and as far as I am aware, there is not a single civilization who didn't make up such myths.

Astronomy:

a) Any fool from any point in history could look up and see that there are a lot of stars. By the time the texts of the bible were written, crude telescopic instruments would've been available (which indeed, are mentioned in one of the verses you reference) and with such, the oblivious fact of there being a lot of stars would be even more evident.

b) The estimate of the number of stars cannot be accurate, as the portion of the universe that is within a few thousand light years is a completely insignificant fraction of space and beyond that it becomes pure guess because stars can easily have formed within that time. Your comparison of that 'estimate' with that of grains of sand is completely hilarious, moreso even when you try to contradict your Bible with your anticipation of us measuring the number of grains of sand and the number of stars in the sky and being able to see that they're the same. Also, your Biblical references don't even come close to saying the number of grains of sand are equal to the number of stars in the sky.

c) Yes, it says the stars are unique, but it also says the moon is a star (which it is not, just so you know). It then uses this piece of [wrong] information as a basis for claiming that all stars are different.

d) Okay... Is it not blatantly obvious to any observer that the sky is not attached to anything? Does the Bible saying thus indicate that other astral bodies are attached to something?

Meteorology:

I don't know anything about it and don't feel like learning about it so I will give you the benefit of my ignorance here and not argue.

Biology:

a) I don't think you have a very strong grasp on history. Most ancient civilizations have viewed the blood as being the lifeforce of a person. It isn't too hard to see, really. People died of blood loss all the time.

b) Again, it had been known for a very long time that species' cannot reproduce with members of another species, although they didn't have too good a grasp on what species was, exactly.

c) We know that 'spiritual health' directly affects one's wellbeing? Strange, I can't even seem to find an accepted definition for what spiritual health would be, let alone anything scientific supporting that claim.



Meh, I grow bored. The 'hydrology' shit is hilarious though. I recommend that you re-examine what is being said there.

[This message has been edited by Iam (edited 03-26-2007).]

Viraljimmy
2007-03-26, 23:03
Where is the science? It's just a bunch of preaching that compares some religious bullshit to obvious natural events apparent to even the dimmest cave men.

Rain makes plants grow? Plants make seeds? There are alot of grains of sand? The sun is brighter than the moon? When a man fucks a sheep, it doesn't make a meep? No shit?

And some of it is totally wrong:

Water comes from windows opening in the sky, which is stretched out like a tent, with the stars attached to it. And the earth hangs from a magic sky-hook in the north.(Why the north?) Lightning makes the rain. Clouds come from the ends of the earth, and god keeps winds in a box.

Amusing, but false. -1 for god!

Blades of Hate
2007-03-26, 23:26
quote:Originally posted by Pyronos:

Mustache Rider is the ultimate fusion of troll and fucktard.

Do not feed him your anguish, lest you be dismayed.



that award goes to masta theif.

Viraljimmy
2007-03-29, 21:04
Mustache Rider? Where did you go?

MolecularMollusc
2007-03-29, 21:28
quote:Originally posted by Viraljimmy:

Mustache Rider? Where did you go?

Hopefully he's with God now. http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif)

Aft3r ImaGe
2007-03-30, 00:19
quote:Originally posted by Masta Thief:

your an ass! i know exactly what a socialist is you dumbfuck! and just because i love you dosnt mean i cant disslike bitches like you!



o wait a sec where do you work again????

McDonalds? ya ya thats what i thought!



This is what happens when 13 year olds use the internet.

Clarphimous
2007-03-31, 03:28
quote:Originally posted by Phil_Gore_88:

There are only 1025 grains of sand on all of earths shores?

It was copied from a website, and the 25 was superscript. 10^25 grains of sand.