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Pinball Mgruff
2007-03-28, 23:29
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Not according to science:

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio105/ribs.htm

quote:Over the last few years, I have received several e-mail message asking if the number of ribs is different in men and women. To correctly respond to these inquiries, I have researched this issue by looking up this information in several Anatomy and Physiology textbooks. All agree that, based on medical research (somebody actually dissected cadavers and counted ribs, somebody actually looked at x-rays and counted ribs), men and women have the same number of ribs as each other.

shitty wok
2007-03-28, 23:32
*waits until Masta Thief barges in with babbling idiocy*

Masta Thief
2007-03-28, 23:34
Your a dumbass!!! Of course we have the same number of ribs it never stated men have a differ # of ribs!!! God just took one from Adam! your a moron!!! honestly i cant even believe you think this is relevant! WOW kid!!!

Hare_Geist
2007-03-28, 23:36
That makes no fucking sense. Why would you assume all men have one rib less just because Adam had a rib removed?

quote:Originally posted by Masta Thief:

Your a dumbass!!! Of course we have the same number of ribs it never stated men have a differ # of ribs!!! God just took one from Adam! your a moron!!! honestly i cant even believe you think this is relevant! WOW kid!!!

Holy shit, I actually agree with Masta Thief.

[This message has been edited by Hare_Geist (edited 03-28-2007).]

Masta Thief
2007-03-28, 23:41
quote:Originally posted by Hare_Geist:

That makes no fucking sense. Why would you assume all men have one rib less just because Adam had a rib removed?

Holy shit, I actually agree with Masta Thief.



you have gained in respect from me! just for the fact you would say it!

Elephantitis Man
2007-03-28, 23:46
quote:Originally posted by Masta Thief:

Your a dumbass!!! Of course we have the same number of ribs it never stated men have a differ # of ribs!!! God just took one from Adam! your a moron!!! honestly i cant even believe you think this is relevant! WOW kid!!!

Then why did God's curses upon Adam and Eve apply to all mankind?

"To the woman he said,

'I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.'"

- God's curse on Eve

It never said "all women", just Eve. If a divine, biological changed performed on a woman (Eve) can be applied to all women, why couldn't a divine, biological changed performed on a man (Adam's rib removed) apply to all men?



[This message has been edited by Elephantitis Man (edited 03-28-2007).]

Masta Thief
2007-03-28, 23:50
quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

Originally posted by Masta Thief:

Your a dumbass!!! Of course we have the same number of ribs it never stated men have a differ # of ribs!!! God just took one from Adam! your a moron!!! honestly i cant even believe you think this is relevant! WOW kid!!!

Then why did God's curses upon Adam and Eve apply to all mankind?

"To the woman he said,

'I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.'"

- God's curse on Eve

It never said "all women", just Eve. If a divine, biological changed performed on a woman (Eve) can be applied to all women, why couldn't a divine, biological changed performed on a man (Adam's rib removed) apply to all men?





OMG! i figured if hare_giest would agree so would everyone! this is fucking amazing and your all retarded!

Hare_Geist
2007-03-28, 23:55
quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

It never said "all women", just Eve. If a divine, biological changed performed on a woman (Eve) can be applied to all women, why couldn't a divine, biological changed performed on a man (Adam's rib removed) apply to all men?

Just because it can be doesn't mean it will be, and him taking Adam's rib wasn't a punishment.

Elephantitis Man
2007-03-29, 00:33
quote:Originally posted by Masta Thief:

OMG! i figured if hare_giest would agree so would everyone! this is fucking amazing and your all retarded!



Where did I state that I disagreed with you? The only statement in my post was a quote, and a short sentence pointing out something in the quote. Then I posed 2 questions, that's it. Never did I make any statements regarding my level of agreement with you or anyone else here. Who's the retarded one now, bitch?



[This message has been edited by Elephantitis Man (edited 03-29-2007).]

AngryFemme
2007-03-29, 00:39
The rib thread!

Happens twice a year in this forum. You can almost set your watch to it.

It's just refreshing seeing Masta Thief interact with Hare_Geist and not call him a homo or a fag!

I sense the humble beginnings of a beautiful friendship.

Q777
2007-03-29, 00:45
On a related not I have seen fundies on this very board believe that all males have one less rib than women.

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Masta Thief
2007-03-29, 01:13
quote:Originally posted by Q777:

On a related not I have seen fundies on this very board believe that all male have one less rib than women.

well we all cant be geniuses! http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/wink.gif)

SAMMY249
2007-03-29, 02:08
Hmmmmmm lets look at this you say that if God took 1 rib from man then all men after that will also have 1 less rib,lets apply that same logic to other parts of the body(for arguments sake lets use the opposite sex then when we started)you take a kidney from a woman then all women born from that mother would be missing 1 kidney.

Your logic fails.

BTW You may be just replying to those stupid misguided emails and not actually trying to disprove creation if so then all i have to say is those ppl are stupid.

karma_sleeper
2007-03-29, 05:05
A curse and removing a rib are two very different things (assuming the former exists). But to play devil's advocate as many have already done, it does not logically follow that assuming God took a rib from Adam his offspring (us) will also have one less rib.

Do amputees give birth to limbless children? No.

mikeoxlong
2007-03-29, 05:34
code:<pre> quote:Originally posted by Pinball Mgruff:

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Not according to science:

http: //biology. clc.uc.edu /Courses/bio105/ribs.htm (http: //biology. clc.uc.edu /Courses/b io105/ribs .htm)

Over the last few years, I have received several e-mail message asking if the number of ribs is different in men and women. To correctly respond to these inquiries, I have researched this issue by looking up this information in several Anatomy and Physiology textbooks. All agree that, based on medical research (somebody actually dissected cadavers and counted ribs, somebody actually looked at x-rays and counted ribs), men and women have the same number of ribs as each other.



You seem to troll Bitch and Moan quite frequently yourself Pinball Mgruff. It was only yesterday that you posted some odd material on why your drill sergeant should 'get cancer and die'. Nobody cares about your trolling. You need to stop it at all cost. I did find your post "And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Not according to science: http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Courses/bio105/ribs.htm



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Over the last few years, I have received several e-mail message asking if the number of ribs is different in men and women. To correctly respond to these inquiries, I have researched this issue by looking up this information in several Anatomy and Physiology textbooks. All agree that, based on medical research (somebody actually dissected cadavers and counted ribs, somebody actually looked at x-rays and counted ribs), men and women have the same number of ribs as each other.

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To be rather intriuging though. I wonder how many ribs are in the human body? How many are in the male and female body? Science and theories of god go hand in hand. </pre>

CatharticWeek
2007-03-29, 07:59
Assuming a sentient omnipresent being created humans spontaniously from clay in his own image, I find the regrowth/loss/whatever of one rib to be the least of my techical quibbles.

RAOVQ
2007-03-29, 09:48
you guys are arguing the semantics of a translated book that was passed down orally for hundreds of years before being written down?

are you guys retarded?

and everyone knows that christians only listen to the bits of the bible they agree with.

Tardcore
2007-03-29, 13:46
Why would god need adam's rip to make women?

That doesn't make any sence at all, i mean, if he could make adam just like that, he could make eva aswell? ._.

RAOVQ
2007-03-29, 13:59
quote:Originally posted by Tardcore:

Why would god need adam's rip to make women?

That doesn't make any sence at all, i mean, if he could make adam just like that, he could make eva aswell? ._.

maybe he didn't like adam very much.

but the real reason is that the bible bashers need a reason to belive the women are inferior to men, and that female existence is purely due to thier needs.