Lately I've been wondering if i should be catholic it or not!?!?! I know a little about it but i also hear wierd crap about it that i dont belive in a single bit, such as confessing to a preacher instead of God and the whole repent thing! I mean come on if a Girl that was a dedicated Christian was out drinking and driving then wrecked then from the whole repent belif thingy she would go to hell! That is pure bullshit prob. made up when Christianity was first founded! And asking the priest for forgivness is shit too which was prob made to give them more power! But other than that stuff and maybe purgatory it seems ok! More religous and involved than baptist!
But can any Catholic give me some more info!

ps. I hope God smites anyone who says anything about priests little boy fettish!!!

Catholic priests have a little-boy fetish.

I'll post again in 5 minutes if I'm still alive.

I hope God smites anyone who says anything about priests little boy fettish!!!

Kinda partial to those fetish-minded priests, are ya Masta Thief?

Email me trichocereus_pachanoi@hushmail.com

When we confess our sins, it is to a priest, but the priest is acting "in persona Christi capita," which means he is absolving sins in the person of Christ, Who is the Head of the Church. The Confessor acts merely as His Minister, it is still God Who forgives, and absolves. We confess, not so much to the priest, as through the priest. This is mentioned in the Bible - "Whosoevers sins you forgive are forgiven them,"
In the case of the girl in the car crash, when you are in a state of mortal sin, all that is required to remit the sins (insofar as to not be condemned to Hell upon death,) is what we call an "Act of Perfect Contrition," which simply means that, truly contrite, the sinner proclaims their repentance to God - a simple (yet sincere and utterlt heartfelt) "I'm Sorry," could suffice. Confession, however, is required before one receives Communion.
But yeah, email me and I'll give ya more info if ya like!
God Bless!

We could go to mass together!

Catholics are also notoriously liberal.

You're better off being some backwards, heathen protestant...

God probably wouldn't like the idea of you picking which parts you subscribe to. Think of your parents telling you to eat your vegetables when you just wanna skip to dessert, except you suffer eternally for defying them and all that

We could go to mass together!

Catholics are also notoriously liberal.

You're better off being some backwards, heathen protestant...

Not all of us are liberals! And, in fact, if you watch closely you can see the modernist influence dropping off slowly over time. The majority of young priests are actually Traditional, and the Tridentine Mass is wildly popular amongst Catholic youth - for good reason! The liberal element you speak of is, actually, quite anti-Catholic.

Lately I've been wondering if i should be catholic it or not!?!?! I know a little

Understatement of the day.

Not all of us are liberals! And, in fact, if you watch closely you can see the modernist influence dropping off slowly over time. The majority of young priests are actually Traditional, and the Tridentine Mass is wildly popular amongst Catholic youth - for good reason! The liberal element you speak of is, actually, quite anti-Catholic.

I meant liberal politically. Catholics are notorious social liberals.

Not all of us are liberals! And, in fact, if you watch closely you can see the modernist influence dropping off slowly over time. The majority of young priests are actually Traditional, and the Tridentine Mass is wildly popular amongst Catholic youth - for good reason! The liberal element you speak of is, actually, quite anti-Catholic.

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I meant liberal politically. Catholics are notorious social liberals.

Well those ones can kiss my ass! But just because im catholic doesnt mean i have to be liberal!

Well those ones can kiss my ass! But just because im catholic doesnt mean i have to be liberal!

You're right! Mark Foley paved the way for conservatives to fuck little boys, too!

"Catholic" really does mean "open to all!" :)

...whatever you decide, good luck.

You're right! Mark Foley paved the way for conservatives to fuck little boys, too!

"Catholic" really does mean "open to all!" :)

...whatever you decide, good luck.

Mark Foley is nothing compared to what you libs got! Psh hell you guys were doing it since the 80's! then you elected the guy for 7 more terms(or years)! So what we have one, you got a thousand!

Well those ones can kiss my ass!

wait, wasn't Jesus that guy who said to first and foremost love thy neighbor? or have I smoked too much weed...

Well those ones can kiss my ass! But just because im catholic doesnt mean i have to be liberal!

No, but a significant number of Catholics(your brothers and sisters) will be extremely liberal.

No, but a significant number of Catholics(your brothers and sisters) will be extremely liberal.

Again you guys can fuck off and go to hell, you athiest cunts! i swear you guys wanna fight the most stupidest of shit! shut the hell up its a question not concerning the likes of you bitches!

I dont know why but you athiest are getting fucking worse!!!

Again you guys can fuck off and go to hell, you athiest cunts! i swear you guys wanna fight the most stupidest of shit! shut the hell up its a question not concerning the likes of you bitches!

I dont know why but you athiest are getting fucking worse!!!

I'm Catholic dude. We're all brothers in christ.

Chill.

I'm Catholic dude. We're all brothers in christ.

Chill.

Well then my mistake!!! i apologize, i just figured you argued me all the time here so i thought you were athiest! also my bad for calling you athiest in your topic about the arch-bishop!

Catholic priests have a little-boy fetish.

I'll post again in 5 minutes if I'm still alive.

Good news, I'm still alive. Also, further news! Catholic priests touch little boys!

Catholicism is my favorite Christian sect. It's facinating. Beautiful, elaborate, cathedrals, lots of fancy clothes, insense, chanting and rituals. Not to mention the allure of the ugly underbelly of the Vatican and all the paedophilia stuff and the incredibly bloody background. I also enjoy the fact that most of the holidays and rituals are actually pagan in origin.

Cheers,
Lost

Being a catholic is fun, and I know what you're saying about the confession thing, but you won't be absolved if you don't TRULY feel sorry.

I also recommend to keep a skeptical eye when dealing with the church as I find the priests etc fairly cool, but the arch bishops etc are just running fucking franchises.

I mean in all fairness if the catholic church started giving substantial money to charity's (they are capable of this)
I would be a firmer believer but at the mo I'm sorta skeptical about the church and their motives.

Pope John Paul II wanted to sell the priceless collection of paintings the church has and give the money raised to charity but was denied to do so!.

I mean he was the POPE he should have had the power to do whatever he wanted with those stupid paintings

What do the motives, imperfections of the Church have to do with whether being in the Church is what God wants you to do? No one claims the Catholic Church has perfect people running it. What we claim is that Jesus, God, gave humans the power, through the Church, to forgive sins and hopefully make it to heaven.

What do the motives, imperfections of the Church have to do with whether being in the Church is what God wants you to do? No one claims the Catholic Church has perfect people running it. What we claim is that Jesus, God, gave humans the power, through the Church, to forgive sins and hopefully make it to heaven.

i thought you were an athiest? or is that the person with a z in his name?

i wouldnt do it, their religion teaches against evolution and it has a bunch of weird little things you have do to too like not eat meat during lint and shit like that. plus they are pretty strict (the ones i know). also napolean this may be just because i live in texas but all the ones i know are hardcore republican.oh well.

Priests don't forgive you, God does. hes just there to kind of like put in a good word for you, like "well if hes getting a priest to help him out he cant be too bad". kind of like how you don't pray to the saints, you pray through the saints, they just put in a good word for you. ;)

Heh, not quite. Jesus gave the apostles the power to forgive sins. Ultimately it is God forgiving the sins, though. And you do "pray" to the saints. You don't ask them to do stuff except pray for you.

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm --online Catechism

Reading that should answer the majority of the questions you have provided that you read it carefully. We use the Catechism as our text book in our morality class (Catholic highschool) and its surprisingly easy to read, but you have to pay careful attention to word choice.

The link I posted is good for looking specific questions up quickly, but if you're serious about pursuing this I would buy the physical book because it's difficult, for me at least, to read long passages on the computer. You can get a nice small copy of the catechism for about $11 on amazon.

I was interested in the Catholic church for quite some time, and embarked on a serious fast in order to see if I was being called to that church.

I sincerely felt that, no - God did not want me involved in that establishment.


The following were the things I believe were revealed to me during that week.


Primarily, I couldn't find a lot of the doctrine to be biblical.
This includes but is not limited to Mary being without sin, confession, etc. (Notwithstanding, although there may be long, elaborate explanations as to why these actually are biblical that I do not know about, the *confirmed Catholics I that dealt with, from the SEVERAL churches in my area, had no understanding of them... and even went as far as to declare they were taught things that simply weren't Christian doctrine. )

(This can be elaborated on in later posts if anyone wishes).


Secondly, I had a real moment when going through the book of St. Matthew during the fast. It eventually came to the realization that, when I sincerely gave my life to Jesus Christ(the toughest test of my life), it was my Catholic peers who gave me the toughest time over it. It was also brought to my attention that these were the people who drank the most, fornicated the most, and lacked the most understanding of Christianity and having a personal relationship with Christ (To this very day, they try to persuade me to get drunk, to have sex, and to indulge. They also scold me for following Jesus)...I even knew confirmed members who didn't understand what the gospel was, or how to be saved!


Don't get me wrong, I'm not some geek just getting picked on. These were, at one time, my best of friends. They turned their back on me, however, when I found out who Jesus was and took up my cross.

Of the Catholic churches I've seen, I cannot say I have seen any good fruit - that is, with the exception of one person. Yet this one person, who truly loves Jesus even moreso than I do, reminds me that I do have Christian brothers and sisters in the Catholic church. Us protestants shouldn't go around fighting with the Catholics - we should respect each other's choices and stay in unity to the best of our understanding of the truth.



And to whoever the guy is who keeps swearing at atheists and people who disagree with him - if you are a Christian, it probably isn't a good witness to attack people when you think they're wrong (or even if you know they're wrong).

We were all terribly wrong at one time, and Jesus didn't jump down our throats when he had the chance. This is because Jesus is love - and I tell you this in love.

I was interested in the Catholic church for quite some time, and embarked on a serious fast in order to see if I was being called to that church.

I sincerely felt that, no - God did not want me involved in that establishment.


The following were the things I believe were revealed to me during that week.


Primarily, I couldn't find a lot of the doctrine to be biblical.
This includes but is not limited to Mary being without sin, confession, etc. (Notwithstanding, although there may be long, elaborate explanations as to why these actually are biblical that I do not know about, the *confirmed Catholics I that dealt with, from the SEVERAL churches in my area, had no understanding of them... and even went as far as to declare they were taught things that simply weren't Christian doctrine. )

(This can be elaborated on in later posts if anyone wishes).


Secondly, I had a real moment when going through the book of St. Matthew during the fast. It eventually came to the realization that, when I sincerely gave my life to Jesus Christ(the toughest test of my life), it was my Catholic peers who gave me the toughest time over it. It was also brought to my attention that these were the people who drank the most, fornicated the most, and lacked the most understanding of Christianity and having a personal relationship with Christ (To this very day, they try to persuade me to get drunk, to have sex, and to indulge. They also scold me for following Jesus)...I even knew confirmed members who didn't understand what the gospel was, or how to be saved!


Don't get me wrong, I'm not some geek just getting picked on. These were, at one time, my best of friends. They turned their back on me, however, when I found out who Jesus was and took up my cross.

Of the Catholic churches I've seen, I cannot say I have seen any good fruit - that is, with the exception of one person. Yet this one person, who truly loves Jesus even moreso than I do, reminds me that I do have Christian brothers and sisters in the Catholic church. Us protestants shouldn't go around fighting with the Catholics - we should respect each other's choices and stay in unity to the best of our understanding of the truth.



And to whoever the guy is who keeps swearing at atheists and people who disagree with him - if you are a Christian, it probably isn't a good witness to attack people when you think they're wrong (or even if you know they're wrong).

We were all terribly wrong at one time, and Jesus didn't jump down our throats when he had the chance. This is because Jesus is love - and I tell you this in love.

umm thats me? its on the internet so its the only way i can show emotion, in real life i prob. think they were kewl, its just how are they suppose to know the emotion if i dont?

Anyways i believe who you speak of is considered the liberal catholics or Christians! I dont like them very much either but still theres a few conservatives out there (that doesnt mean pollitical terms)! i dont know it just seems to me that the protestant people do it because its normal or has become repititous but not really any connection to Jesus! I dont know it just seems that way!

In response to an earlier post not all Catholics avoid eating meat during lent or every friday, sure there are people who do but then there are a lot of us who dont take part in those practices. Just because you're Catholic doesnt mean you do everything that the leaders of the church encouraged you to do at one point in time. The people who call themselves Catholic and try to force their religion on you or tell you for example you cant eat meat on a certain day arent following what they are called to do, they are hypocrites but many Catholics will be very accepting if you tell them you want to learn more about their religion and wont force it on you. So i encourage you to go to a Catholic church some day and maybe talk to someone who looks approachabe and not too "hardcore" Catholic.

In response to an earlier post not all Catholics avoid eating meat during lent or every friday, sure there are people who do but then there are a lot of us who dont take part in those practices. Just because you're Catholic doesnt mean you do everything that the leaders of the church encouraged you to do at one point in time. The people who call themselves Catholic and try to force their religion on you or tell you for example you cant eat meat on a certain day arent following what they are called to do, they are hypocrites but many Catholics will be very accepting if you tell them you want to learn more about their religion and wont force it on you. So i encourage you to go to a Catholic church some day and maybe talk to someone who looks approachabe and not too "hardcore" Catholic.

will do!

In response to an earlier post not all Catholics avoid eating meat during lent or every friday, sure there are people who do but then there are a lot of us who dont take part in those practices. Just because you're Catholic doesnt mean you do everything that the leaders of the church encouraged you to do at one point in time. The people who call themselves Catholic and try to force their religion on you or tell you for example you cant eat meat on a certain day arent following what they are called to do, they are hypocrites but many Catholics will be very accepting if you tell them you want to learn more about their religion and wont force it on you. So i encourage you to go to a Catholic church some day and maybe talk to someone who looks approachabe and not too "hardcore" Catholic.

oh yeah i know i just know alot of kids who are that kind of really devoted catholic. they're pretty cool though they're nice and everything but im non-dominational so i have completely different morals and views and such. theyve never tried to force their religion on me either but yeah its all good.

I was interested in the Catholic church for quite some time, and embarked on a serious fast in order to see if I was being called to that church.

I sincerely felt that, no - God did not want me involved in that establishment.


The following were the things I believe were revealed to me during that week.


Primarily, I couldn't find a lot of the doctrine to be biblical.
This includes but is not limited to Mary being without sin, confession, etc. (Notwithstanding, although there may be long, elaborate explanations as to why these actually are biblical that I do not know about, the *confirmed Catholics I that dealt with, from the SEVERAL churches in my area, had no understanding of them... and even went as far as to declare they were taught things that simply weren't Christian doctrine. )

(This can be elaborated on in later posts if anyone wishes).


Secondly, I had a real moment when going through the book of St. Matthew during the fast. It eventually came to the realization that, when I sincerely gave my life to Jesus Christ(the toughest test of my life), it was my Catholic peers who gave me the toughest time over it. It was also brought to my attention that these were the people who drank the most, fornicated the most, and lacked the most understanding of Christianity and having a personal relationship with Christ (To this very day, they try to persuade me to get drunk, to have sex, and to indulge. They also scold me for following Jesus)...I even knew confirmed members who didn't understand what the gospel was, or how to be saved!


Don't get me wrong, I'm not some geek just getting picked on. These were, at one time, my best of friends. They turned their back on me, however, when I found out who Jesus was and took up my cross.

Of the Catholic churches I've seen, I cannot say I have seen any good fruit - that is, with the exception of one person. Yet this one person, who truly loves Jesus even moreso than I do, reminds me that I do have Christian brothers and sisters in the Catholic church. Us protestants shouldn't go around fighting with the Catholics - we should respect each other's choices and stay in unity to the best of our understanding of the truth.



And to whoever the guy is who keeps swearing at atheists and people who disagree with him - if you are a Christian, it probably isn't a good witness to attack people when you think they're wrong (or even if you know they're wrong).

We were all terribly wrong at one time, and Jesus didn't jump down our throats when he had the chance. This is because Jesus is love - and I tell you this in love.

You should take more than a week to think about this. There is biblical evidence for pretty much everything. If you have questions post them here.

I think if you really look you will find hypocrites and people who don't know their faith, or who participate only for social sort of reasons. That is not a reason to base a belief on.

Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom, he gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins. Those were the Church Fathers. God made the Church for everyone.

there's always going to be hypocrites in every walk of life.

It's just about finding people who you think are true Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Buddhist's etc.

those friends of yours obviously weren't real friends.

It happens.

but don't let their ignorance get in the way of what you believe is god.

like Einstein said, ''there is only one thing in this universe that I'm sure is infinite, and that's Ignorance''

. Those were the Church Fathers. God made the Church for everyone.

They were?

Yes. Apostolic Sucession.

Yes. Apostolic Sucession.

More a matter of faith than history I'm afraid.

Um, ok, but if you already believe in the Bible, like protestants do, they've already made that step.

Um, ok, but if you already believe in the Bible, like protestants do, they've already made that step.

The bible actually tells a rather different story of the apostolic succession than many mainstream christians realise.

Anyways i believe who you speak of is considered the liberal catholics or Christians! I dont like them very much either but still theres a few conservatives out there (that doesnt mean pollitical terms)! i dont know it just seems to me that the protestant people do it because its normal or has become repititous but not really any connection to Jesus! I dont know it just seems that way!

The Catholic institution has been liberal
for quite some time now. To say liberal catholic is the same as saying Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics are open to science, they've accepted Jews as equals, all catholics practice socialism opennly, they do not take a public stance against evolution... it goes on and on and on.

Protestants lost their connection to Jesus when they started protesting that which was built upon the "rock".

all catholics practice socialism opennly,.

um, what?


jack, what does the Bible paint?

"That is pure bullshit"

Lawl irony.

If you can believe in a guy coming back from the dead, turning water into wine and managing to fly off into the sky then you can believe in what they do!

um, what?


What? Catholics voluntarily donate to their churches and communities without their Priest having to ask them to. Protestants like Ted Haggard, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson run their flocks like a business. Pat Robertson even runs a law school! They sit upon multi-million dollar businesses.

Not to say that the Vatican isn't worth a pretty penny in assets. But that is from historical relics and artistries. Whereas, these protestant leaders get theirs from the wallets of their own flock. I will retract my statement if you can show me where Pat Robertson has done "good works" like Mother Teresa. Where he had deemed himself worthy to be a representative of God. Then I will say all Christian denominations are socialist by nature.

socialism is collective ownership of property. That's something totally different than charity....

socialism is collective ownership of property. That's something totally different than charity....

Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Socialism is the reverse...

Charity isn't an economic system

lol religionaments

The Catholic institution has been liberal for quite some time now. To say liberal catholic is the same as saying Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics are open to science, they've accepted Jews as equals, all catholics practice socialism opennly, they do not take a public stance against evolution... it goes on and on and on.

Protestants lost their connection to Jesus when they started protesting that which was built upon the "rock".

im a fascist and im about as hardcore Roman Catholic as you get

although i will admit it has unfortunately become a very liberalized institution

go catholic... wine and communion wafers at mass ;)

id like to see protestants do that

my christian ex gf ruined my life.

^^^^^

trip report plz?

Just don't become protestant. They kill babies in church and hate Jesus :mad:

Just don't become protestant. They kill babies in church and hate Jesus :mad:

He said " I am the Bishop of Bath and Wells!"

(most of you'll be too young or too american to get that one :( )

Just don't become protestant. They kill babies in church and hate Jesus :mad:


if i'm a christian and i'm thinking about becoming catholic, what the fuck do you think i am now???

plus your a dumbass and no they dont!



ps. Jakkech could you please explain that one to me?

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ps. Jakkech could you please explain that one to me?

The Baby Eating Bishop Of Bath And Wells (http://tinyurl.com/23qnz4)

The Baby Eating Bishop Of Bath And Wells (http://tinyurl.com/23qnz4)

umm ok, that aint even funny??? thats just retarded, its not that i cant laugh at that stuff im not suppose its just it dont make sense?

I love Rowan Atkinson.

Yo fo sho. Who the fuck would you confess to? Cause if your really sorry you know you'll confess to a priest and plus ever read New king james version(protestant version) has so many fucking errors. And who started it all us,Catholics. So without us there would be none of you break away niggas.

Yo be Catholic or at least Eastern orthodox(Use to be same church but broke away when there was a power dispute)

L33t_killerz@yahoo.com

Ill talk to ya bout it.

Masta Thief
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Just don't become protestant. They kill babies in church and hate Jesus

if i'm a christian and i'm thinking about becoming catholic, what the fuck do you think i am now???

plus your a dumbass and no they dont!



ps. Jakkech could you please explain that one to me?

Eastern Orthodox eva heard of it?

Yo fo sho. Who the fuck would you confess to? Cause if your really sorry you know you'll confess to a priest and plus ever read New king james version(protestant version) has so many fucking errors. And who started it all us,Catholics. So without us there would be none of you break away niggas.

Yo be Catholic or at least Eastern orthodox(Use to be same church but broke away when there was a power dispute)

L33t_killerz@yahoo.com

Ill talk to ya bout it.

The only thing more appalling than your command of English is your grasp of history (or rather the total lack of it).

Do they not have schools under that bridge?